Gay Weddings Legalized in....wait, Vietnam?

[Shershah]

You still haven't sourced that homosexuality is a disease.

And you completely misunderstood Sun's argument. Having non-reproductive members, like homosexual members of a species, is not always a bad thing.

I can't anymore due to political correctness running rampant.

And i am just saying that that doesn't not justify that there is a need for homosexuality to exist.

Not really. Most are just afraid of the backlash and political correctness.

So literally every mental health reputable mental health official in the world is afraid of political backlash and you are clearly this enlightened figure that knows better than them. You are calling homosexuality a mental disorder, yet you must be delusional yourself to make such a claim.[/quote]

No, i am just not afraid of voicing "what is".

[Shershah]

So are you trying to say that if you got any disease you wouldn't try to cure it ? or that you wouldn't want a cure regardless of you have that disease or not ?

Wut?

I would try to cure it because it is an outside organism that causes a threat to my own life if I do not.

Homosexuality does not have that trait, therefore it isn't a disease but more of a normal phenomenon that happens in nature. It doesn't compete with heterosexuality and is, in fact, complimentary to it.

Diseases need not be caused by an outside organism. Also what about mental illnesses ? what about cancer ? what about *inserthere* ?

It is a phenomenon alright, but the abnormal one where heterosexuality is the normal.

[Liriena]

No, i am just not afraid of voicing "what is".

Except you aren't voicing "what is". You are voicing your own prejudiced and uninformed opinion, while stuffing your thumbs in your ears and pretending that actual scientists are just pretending they don't agree with you.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No, i am just not afraid of voicing "what is".

The APA has some questions for you then.

[Blasveck]

You still haven't sourced that homosexuality is a disease.

And you completely misunderstood Sun's argument. Having non-reproductive members, like homosexual members of a species, is not always a bad thing.

I can't anymore due to political correctness running rampant.

And i am just saying that that doesn't not justify that there is a need for homosexuality to exist.

Not really. Most are just afraid of the backlash and political correctness.

So literally every mental health reputable mental health official in the world is afraid of political backlash and you are clearly this enlightened figure that knows better than them. You are calling homosexuality a mental disorder, yet you must be delusional yourself to make such a claim.

No, i am just not afraid of voicing "what is".

I'd be willing to take your sources seriously if you'd be willing to provide them.

I will not take you seriously any longer without you doing so. Otherwise, we're arguing over nothing.

[Sun Wukong]

Wut?

I would try to cure it because it is an outside organism that causes a threat to my own life if I do not.

Homosexuality does not have that trait, therefore it isn't a disease but more of a normal phenomenon that happens in nature. It doesn't compete with heterosexuality and is, in fact, complimentary to it.

Diseases need not be caused by an outside organism. Also what about mental illnesses ? what about cancer ? what about *inserthere* ?

It is a phenomenon alright, but the abnormal one where heterosexuality is the normal.

A disease is defined as a metabolic upset, and obviously homosexuality does not qualify.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Wut?

I would try to cure it because it is an outside organism that causes a threat to my own life if I do not.

Homosexuality does not have that trait, therefore it isn't a disease but more of a normal phenomenon that happens in nature. It doesn't compete with heterosexuality and is, in fact, complimentary to it.

Diseases need not be caused by an outside organism. Also what about mental illnesses ? what about cancer ? what about *inserthere* ?

It is a phenomenon alright, but the abnormal one where heterosexuality is the normal.

Again, do you know the pathophysiology of cancer? Can you back that up with reputable sources?

And mental illnesses are chemical imbalances. However, having the genetic traits to manufacture more of one hormone or indeed, create proteins that result in more feminine, even homosexual behavior isn't a farfetched notion and in fact it can be said that is natural. What is not natural is the organism trying to destroy itself (as is the case of Lupus).

And it is perfectly normal given that it is a significant number of the population that lives fine being homosexual, you don't see them dying a decade later from it.

[Shershah]

Failed in what ways?

Care to elaborate on your rebuttal?

Yes. Even if homosexuality didn't exist nothing would change. It is redundant.

No, i am just not afraid of voicing "what is".

Except you aren't voicing "what is". You are voicing your own prejudiced and uninformed opinion, while stuffing your thumbs in your ears and pretending that actual scientists are just pretending they don't agree with you.

If i was one such scientist, and i valued my career and my safety, in today's world i know i wouldn't dare.

[Sun Wukong]

Failed in what ways?

Care to elaborate on your rebuttal?

Yes. Even if homosexuality didn't exist nothing would change. It is redundant.

Except you aren't voicing "what is". You are voicing your own prejudiced and uninformed opinion, while stuffing your thumbs in your ears and pretending that actual scientists are just pretending they don't agree with you.

If i was one such scientist, and i valued my career and my safety, in today's world i know i wouldn't dare.

Then you've never heard of Tenure.

Seriously, do conspiracy theorists just not know how academia works?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Diseases need not be caused by an outside organism. Also what about mental illnesses ? what about cancer ? what about *inserthere* ?

It is a phenomenon alright, but the abnormal one where heterosexuality is the normal.

A disease is defined as a metabolic upset, and obviously homosexuality does not qualify.

Well, not all diseases. Bacterial and Viral diseases hardly fall into those categories, unless you are going by the process of disease in which the virus/bacteria do alter the chemistry of the body both by secreting waste material into the body in the case of bacteria and to invade the host cell and recombine the DNA of the host in the case of viral infections.

[Blasveck]

Failed in what ways?

Care to elaborate on your rebuttal?

Yes. Even if homosexuality didn't exist nothing would change. It is redundant.

Except you aren't voicing "what is". You are voicing your own prejudiced and uninformed opinion, while stuffing your thumbs in your ears and pretending that actual scientists are just pretending they don't agree with you.

If i was one such scientist, and i valued my career and my safety, in today's world i know i wouldn't dare.

But it does exist, and it has been shown that having non-reproductive members can be a benefit to the species as a whole.

So your argument refutes nothing.

[Shershah]

A disease is defined as a metabolic upset, and obviously homosexuality does not qualify.

It still qualifies as a mental disorder as far as i can see.

Diseases need not be caused by an outside organism. Also what about mental illnesses ? what about cancer ? what about *inserthere* ?

It is a phenomenon alright, but the abnormal one where heterosexuality is the normal.

Again, do you know the pathophysiology of cancer? Can you back that up with reputable sources?

And mental illnesses are chemical imbalances. However, having the genetic traits to manufacture more of one hormone or indeed, create proteins that result in more feminine, even homosexual behavior isn't a farfetched notion and in fact it can be said that is natural. What is not natural is the organism trying to destroy itself (as is the case of Lupus).

And it is perfectly normal given that it is a significant number of the population that lives fine being homosexual, you don't see them dying a decade later from it.

And i am saying that it is not natural or the norm to be precise. It is a defect. Nothing wrong with trying to cure a defect. Ofcourse we haven't got that far into the medical field yet as far as i know.

[Liriena]

Except you aren't voicing "what is". You are voicing your own prejudiced and uninformed opinion, while stuffing your thumbs in your ears and pretending that actual scientists are just pretending they don't agree with you.

If i was one such scientist, and i valued my career and my safety, in today's world i know i wouldn't dare.

Don't project your cowardice on others, please.

[Sun Wukong]

A disease is defined as a metabolic upset, and obviously homosexuality does not qualify.

Well, not all diseases. Bacterial and Viral diseases hardly fall into those categories, unless you are going by the process of disease in which the virus/bacteria do alter the chemistry of the body both by secreting waste material into the body in the case of bacteria and to invade the host cell and recombine the DNA of the host in the case of viral infections.

Umm... yeah. That's what you do.

Which is why an infection is not a disease.

[Furious Grandmothers]

A disease is defined as a metabolic upset, and obviously homosexuality does not qualify.

It still qualifies as a mental disorder as far as i can see.

Again, do you know the pathophysiology of cancer? Can you back that up with reputable sources?

And mental illnesses are chemical imbalances. However, having the genetic traits to manufacture more of one hormone or indeed, create proteins that result in more feminine, even homosexual behavior isn't a farfetched notion and in fact it can be said that is natural. What is not natural is the organism trying to destroy itself (as is the case of Lupus).

And it is perfectly normal given that it is a significant number of the population that lives fine being homosexual, you don't see them dying a decade later from it.

And i am saying that it is not natural or the norm to be precise. It is a defect. Nothing wrong with trying to cure a defect. Ofcourse we haven't got that far into the medical field yet as far as i know.

With all respect, why do you keep saying it's a defect without being to explain how you think it is a defect?

[Sun Wukong]

A disease is defined as a metabolic upset, and obviously homosexuality does not qualify.

It still qualifies as a mental disorder as far as i can see.

I am increasingly unimpressed with how far you can see.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

And i am saying that it is not natural or the norm to be precise. It is a defect. Nothing wrong with trying to cure a defect. Ofcourse we haven't got that far into the medical field yet as far as i know.

Not natural for the organism = destructive for the organism.

Homosexuality does not eat away at your body.

[Shershah]

But it does exist, and it has been shown that having non-reproductive members can be a benefit to the species as a whole.

So your argument refutes nothing.

And that is where you fail to see what i said. The non-reproductive member need not be homosexual. So that is not a justification to not try and find a cure for it.

Then you've never heard of Tenure.

Seriously, do conspiracy theorists just not know how academia works?

when did i ever say anything about the "termination" of the career ?

Don't project your cowardice on others, please.

It is just common sense. That is all.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Well, not all diseases. Bacterial and Viral diseases hardly fall into those categories, unless you are going by the process of disease in which the virus/bacteria do alter the chemistry of the body both by secreting waste material into the body in the case of bacteria and to invade the host cell and recombine the DNA of the host in the case of viral infections.

Umm... yeah. That's what you do.

Which is why an infection is not a disease.

I think... I answered my own question...

Damn sometimes I tend to question too much.

[Liriena]

Don't project your cowardice on others, please.

It is just common sense. That is all.

Paranoid delusions =/= Common sense

[Shershah]

Which is why an infection is not a disease.

... alright. I see that arguing with you after this is of no use.

And i am saying that it is not natural or the norm to be precise. It is a defect. Nothing wrong with trying to cure a defect. Ofcourse we haven't got that far into the medical field yet as far as i know.

Not natural for the organism = destructive for the organism.

Homosexuality does not eat away at your body.

Not natural = unnatural. Fail logic there.

[Blasveck]

But it does exist, and it has been shown that having non-reproductive members can be a benefit to the species as a whole.

So your argument refutes nothing.

And that is where you fail to see what i said. The non-reproductive member need not be homosexual. So that is not a justification to not try and find a cure for it.

Then you've never heard of Tenure.

Seriously, do conspiracy theorists just not know how academia works?

when did i ever say anything about the "termination" of the career ?

Don't project your cowardice on others, please.

It is just common sense. That is all.

They need not be homosexual, sure. But that's just one of the ways evolution gets te job done to promote the survival of the species.

And I'm continually doubting your credibility without sourcing that homosexuality is something that is:

A) A disease
And
B) That it needs to be cured

Hell, if you want to simply send a TG, please do so. Otherwise, it would probably be in all of our best interest to end this discussion.

[Sun Wukong]

Then you've never heard of Tenure.

Seriously, do conspiracy theorists just not know how academia works?

when did i ever say anything about the "termination" of the career ?

Tenure exists precisely so that researchers can feel safe to do exactly what you propose they cannot. You're more then welcome to try and criticize the practice if you like, but how little you seem to know about everything else I won't hold my breath.

[Imperializt Russia]

Words can't hurt anyone. They are just words.

Harmful words are against the rules here, but you clearly haven't bothered to read those yet.

"need for unusual sexual stimulation". There you go.

What is unusual about attraction to the same sex?

To those who believe it so, everything.

[Liriena]

Which is why an infection is not a disease.

... alright. I see that arguing with you after this is of no use.

Pot, meet the kettle.

Not natural for the organism = destructive for the organism.

Homosexuality does not eat away at your body.

Not natural = unnatural. Fail logic there.

You aren't making any sense.