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Shershah
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Postby Shershah » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:59 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Nope. I'm actually quite pessimistic usually. And if you aren't going to change your political views, than why bother debating them?


I am just replying to your posts atm actually, nothing more.

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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:00 pm

Immoren wrote:Still fighting windmills, eh?

I didn't even start. I got superdizzy just by watching it.

No, seriously, after reading the last 35 pages of this thread I'm feeling very, very dizzy.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:01 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Immoren wrote:Still fighting windmills, eh?

I didn't even start. I got superdizzy just by watching it.

No, seriously, after reading the last 35 pages of this thread I'm feeling very, very dizzy.

I'm not jeopardizing my sanity by reading back. No sir.
be gay do crime


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Fascist Russian Empire
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:01 pm

Shershah wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Nope. I'm actually quite pessimistic usually. And if you aren't going to change your political views, than why bother debating them?


I am just replying to your posts atm actually, nothing more.

So, you are only posting for the sole purpose of responding to other people? Not here to try to prove your political viewpoint correct, or change other people's opinions about the topic, or to debate, but only for the sole purpose of responding to everyone else?

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The Scientific States
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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:01 pm

Is the debate against the lone bigot not providing a source still going on?

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Postby New haven america » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:02 pm

The Scientific States wrote:Is the debate against the lone bigot not providing a source still going on?

NSG, how I love thee.

He's gone, let us rejoice!
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Postby Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:02 pm

The Scientific States wrote:Is the debate against the lone bigot not providing a source still going on?

NSG, how I love thee.

Love your new flag. :3
be gay do crime


I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:I didn't even start. I got superdizzy just by watching it.

No, seriously, after reading the last 35 pages of this thread I'm feeling very, very dizzy.

I'm not jeopardizing my sanity by reading back. No sir.

Well, I'm not insanely mad just because I only expect intellectual dishonesty from homophobes.

But still I'm seeing my room rotate here by the amount of fucking circular logic.
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Test: Seemingly, libertarian communism was renamed "social democracy"
Compass: economic left -9.85, social libertarian -8.97
Socio-Economic Ideology: Democratic Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)

Born 12/94. Weird in all senses starting at 07/2000. NSG's resident euro-carioca bara-fudanshi useless lazy perv. Agnostic atheist (not anti-religious), bi-affective homosexual/demiheterosexual (and bi-curious i.e. chronologically 95% bisexual-ish but 5% true bi), slightly more masculine of both tad neutral and tad ambiguous gender (human-/oneself-identified genderqueer; he, xe or ou, your preference), naturist, "worker" class, mildly hipster/japanophile, etc.

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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:03 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Shershah wrote:

Look, your misunderstandings and misinterpretations doesn't change anything. The point still stands. You are free to believe otherwise.



You are an optimist aren't you ? Let me save you the trouble. Not going to happen.

Not upto you to dictate.

[...] I'm actually quite pessimistic usually. [...]

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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:03 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:Is the debate against the lone bigot not providing a source still going on?

NSG, how I love thee.

Love your new flag. :3


Thanks Liri. :)
Centrist, Ordoliberal, Bisexual, Agnostic, Pro Social Market Economy, Pro Labour Union, Secular Humanist, Cautious Optimist, Pro LGBT, Pro Marijuana Legalization, Pro Humanitarian Intervention etc etc.
Compass
Economic Left/Right: 0.88
Social Liberal/Authoritarian: -6.62
Political Stuff I Wrote
Why Pinochet and Allende were both terrible
The UKIP: A Bad Choice for Britain
Why South Africa is in a sorry state, and how it can be fixed.
Massive List of My OOC Pros and Cons
Hey, Putin! Leave Ukraine Alone!

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Postby Liriena » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:04 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Liriena wrote:I'm not jeopardizing my sanity by reading back. No sir.

Well, I'm not insanely mad just because I only expect intellectual dishonesty from homophobes.

But still I'm seeing my room rotate here by the amount of fucking circular logic.

There is no logic, not even circular.
be gay do crime


I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:06 pm

Menassa wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:[...] I'm actually quite pessimistic usually. [...]

Lamah? Why is this so?

After a lifetime of disappointments and things going exactly the opposite of how you hoped it would go, you start realizing that optimism is unrealistic and pointless. Pessimistic attitudes are generally more realistic in politics; someone hopes for LGBT rights to expand and then Kuwait goes one step further in persecuting the LGBT community. Someone hopes for North Korea to become less extreme, and the new ruler makes it more extreme. Optimism ain't the answer to anything, but this is all off topic. If you want to discuss this more, than just TG me so we don't take up thread space.

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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:06 pm

Liriena wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Well, I'm not insanely mad just because I only expect intellectual dishonesty from homophobes.

But still I'm seeing my room rotate here by the amount of fucking circular logic.

There is no logic, not even circular.

...this, too.
Aequalitia's bromancey mancrush.
Test: Seemingly, libertarian communism was renamed "social democracy"
Compass: economic left -9.85, social libertarian -8.97
Socio-Economic Ideology: Democratic Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)

Born 12/94. Weird in all senses starting at 07/2000. NSG's resident euro-carioca bara-fudanshi useless lazy perv. Agnostic atheist (not anti-religious), bi-affective homosexual/demiheterosexual (and bi-curious i.e. chronologically 95% bisexual-ish but 5% true bi), slightly more masculine of both tad neutral and tad ambiguous gender (human-/oneself-identified genderqueer; he, xe or ou, your preference), naturist, "worker" class, mildly hipster/japanophile, etc.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:13 pm

Shershah wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Nope. I'm actually quite pessimistic usually. And if you aren't going to change your political views, than why bother debating them?


I am just replying to your posts atm actually, nothing more.



STILL wasting people's time I see.

You have done nothing but contribute nothing to this thread and have everyone go ahead and dispute your claims.

I will make a claim now and I want you to disprove it with facts and recent sources:

Homosexuals are not criminals and is not an STD.

Go ahead, do your best.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:14 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Liriena wrote:Love your new flag. :3


Thanks Liri. :)


I like it too!

It's really nice. And blue is my favorite color :lol:
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:14 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Shershah wrote:
I am just replying to your posts atm actually, nothing more.



STILL wasting people's time I see.

You have done nothing but contribute nothing to this thread and have everyone go ahead and dispute your claims.

I will make a claim now and I want you to disprove it with facts and recent sources:

Homosexuals are not criminals and is not an STD.

Go ahead, do your best.


He's gone now. I fear he may return though.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:15 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:

STILL wasting people's time I see.

You have done nothing but contribute nothing to this thread and have everyone go ahead and dispute your claims.

I will make a claim now and I want you to disprove it with facts and recent sources:

Homosexuals are not criminals and is not an STD.

Go ahead, do your best.


He's gone now. I fear he may return though.


Just leave it there :p

He will return, and when he does, well... we'll cross the river when we get to it.
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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Postby Olthar » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:15 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Thanks Liri. :)


I like it too!

It's really nice. And blue is my favorite color :lol:

My flag has blue on it. :3
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:15 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:

STILL wasting people's time I see.

You have done nothing but contribute nothing to this thread and have everyone go ahead and dispute your claims.

I will make a claim now and I want you to disprove it with facts and recent sources:

Homosexuals are not criminals and is not an STD.

Go ahead, do your best.


He's gone now. I fear he may return though.

Hopefully with better arguments.

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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:16 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Thanks Liri. :)


I like it too!

It's really nice. And blue is my favorite color :lol:


Thanks Soldati. :)
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Social Liberal/Authoritarian: -6.62
Political Stuff I Wrote
Why Pinochet and Allende were both terrible
The UKIP: A Bad Choice for Britain
Why South Africa is in a sorry state, and how it can be fixed.
Massive List of My OOC Pros and Cons
Hey, Putin! Leave Ukraine Alone!

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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:17 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
He's gone now. I fear he may return though.


Just leave it there :p

He will return, and when he does, well... we'll cross the river when we get to it.


If he returns, I'll go back into that hell hole and destroy his arguments yet again.

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
He's gone now. I fear he may return though.

Hopefully with better arguments.


He probably won't though.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:19 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Just leave it there :p

He will return, and when he does, well... we'll cross the river when we get to it.


If he returns, I'll go back into that hell hole and destroy his arguments yet again.

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Hopefully with better arguments.


He probably won't though.

Probably not, but it's nice to dream.

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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:21 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
If he returns, I'll go back into that hell hole and destroy his arguments yet again.



He probably won't though.

Probably not, but it's nice to dream.


It's nice to dream, but I simply don't dream that good things will happen.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Menassa » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:25 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Probably not, but it's nice to dream.


It's nice to dream, but I simply don't dream that good things will happen.

You make them happen.
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Their hollow inheritance.
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"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:26 pm

Olthar wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I like it too!

It's really nice. And blue is my favorite color :lol:

My flag has blue on it. :3

I like yours because of mew :3 and the crayon blue color!
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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