GUN CONTROL!

[Hathradic States]

And you are ignorant.

You say that. I live on a island where the police have G36 rifles and no one owns guns. There hasn't been a gun crime in ...WAIT. No ones ever been shot here. Not even by the police.

Because Islands can get weapons smuggled in from their long southern Mexican border

Yeah, people own guns here dude, many people own rifles but they all licenses and the training to own them. Also just because you can't protect your border from people taking stuff across isn't a reason to arm every man, woman, child, passing goat with a anti-tank rifle.

I call bullshit on you fantasy island.

[Chernoslavia]

Because Islands can get weapons smuggled in from their long southern Mexican border

Yeah, people own guns here dude, many people own rifles but they all licenses and the training to own them. Also just because you can't protect your border from people taking stuff across isn't a reason to arm every man, woman, child, passing goat with a anti-tank rifle.

If the police aren't capable of securing the borders from smugglers then that's definitely a good reason to let people have weapons. Especially considering how criminals will still have em.

[The High Guardians]

Yeah, people own guns here dude, many people own rifles but they all licenses and the training to own them. Also just because you can't protect your border from people taking stuff across isn't a reason to arm every man, woman, child, passing goat with a anti-tank rifle.

You missed the point.

My point was its harder to smuggle weapons via the sea, onto an island.

It's a whole hell of a lot easier to smuggle weapons via the sea, the land and underground into a land-bordering nation.

You see where the Adverse Selection of (illegal and legal) Firearms will begin to skew towards?

You missed my point. My island is situated part of the U.K, gun regulation does work my friend. Heavily regulated, people who have the right training and reason to own them and no murders. That's a win.

[Hathradic States]

I just love how you claimed I said that you can purchase non grandfathered automatics when I didn't say such thing. But go ahead keep misinterpreting what I'm saying, keep embarrassing yourself with your temper tantrums.

You did, though.

[Belvadaire]

I truly believe if Americans ALLOW their Government to Strip them of their guns then Civil war will break out, why? I'll tell you why, once the United state Government take those guns, which I believe they soon will be doing, They will force innocent Civilians into FEMA camps to be tortured, starved, and treated like cattle, well they already treated like cattle, but the FEMA camps will be much more harsh, My message to the people of America is: stand your ground, use your voice to stop this tyranny against the people, stand up to these scumbags, and free yourselves from their grip." This might sound crazy but if any being is watching America destroy countries with their technology, like "HAARP", or what ever, I'm sure they will soon intervene, love and light to you all.

[Yusova]

I truly believe if Americans ALLOW their Government to Strip them of their guns then Civil war will break out, why? I'll tell you why, once the United state Government take those guns, which I believe they soon will be doing, They will force innocent Civilians into FEMA camps to be tortured, starved, and treated like cattle, well they already treated like cattle, but the FEMA camps will be much more harsh, My message to the people of America is: stand your ground, use your voice to stop this tyranny against the people, stand up to these scumbags, and free yourselves from their grip." This might sound crazy but if any being is watching America destroy countries with their technology, like "HAARP", or what ever, I'm sure they will soon intervene, love and light to you all.

And here's where I get hated on
Why do you think this

[Luveria]

I just love how you claimed I said that you can purchase non grandfathered automatics when I didn't say such thing. But go ahead keep misinterpreting what I'm saying, keep embarrassing yourself with your temper tantrums.

You did, though.

Specifically here.

3. How to get your hands on a full auto? A bit harder than getting one in the US but not impossible, if I remember correctly you might need some kind of permit.

Which was not only blatantly wrong, especially about the not impossible part, but has now morphed into this;

You gotta get someone that has owned it prior to the ban that'll sell it to you.

Which is also wrong, as the requirement is already owning a prohibited weapon in the same class as the one being purchased, meaning no one who didn't have a grandfathered automatic and doesn't still own one, can buy an automatic. Ergo, Canadians cannot own automatics, which is in stark contrast to the repeated claims made by Chernoslavia who insists he would know better than a Canadian restricted firearms owner, along with refusing to ever provide sources.

[Gujiristan]

I truly believe if Americans ALLOW their Government to Strip them of their guns

This ain't happening, that ain't what gun control is.

Also wouldn't the gun faction win a civil war with their guns?

[The High Guardians]

You say that. I live on a island where the police have G36 rifles and no one owns guns. There hasn't been a gun crime in ...WAIT. No ones ever been shot here. Not even by the police.

Yeah, people own guns here dude, many people own rifles but they all licenses and the training to own them. Also just because you can't protect your border from people taking stuff across isn't a reason to arm every man, woman, child, passing goat with a anti-tank rifle.

I call bullshit on you fantasy island.

I call it the Isle of Wight, United Kingdom. I admit, I just did some research and we've had 1 murder involving guns in around 60-70 years.

[Chernoslavia]

You did, though.

Specifically here.

3. How to get your hands on a full auto? A bit harder than getting one in the US but not impossible, if I remember correctly you might need some kind of permit.

Which was not only blatantly wrong, especially about the not impossible part, but has now morphed into this;

You gotta get someone that has owned it prior to the ban that'll sell it to you.

Which is also wrong, as the requirement is already owning a prohibited weapon in the same class as the one being purchased, meaning no one who didn't have a grandfathered automatic and doesn't still own one, can buy an automatic. Ergo, Canadians cannot own automatics, which is in stark contrast to the repeated claims made by Chernoslavia who insists he would know better than a Canadian restricted firearms owner, along with refusing to ever provide sources.

Have you purchased a "Prohibited firearm" prior to 1998 on an FAC? You said you are the owner of some restricted weapons.

[Condunum]

or anything over 30 caliber guns

Shut your mouth and leave. Just go.

[Len Hyet]

I truly believe if Americans ALLOW their Government to Strip them of their guns then Civil war will break out, why? I'll tell you why, once the United state Government take those guns, which I believe they soon will be doing, They will force innocent Civilians into FEMA camps to be tortured, starved, and treated like cattle, well they already treated like cattle, but the FEMA camps will be much more harsh, My message to the people of America is: stand your ground, use your voice to stop this tyranny against the people, stand up to these scumbags, and free yourselves from their grip." This might sound crazy but if any being is watching America destroy countries with their technology, like "HAARP", or what ever, I'm sure they will soon intervene, love and light to you all.

Is this what those New World Order types believe? It's like a window into the mind of a madman.

[Luveria]

Specifically here.



Which was not only blatantly wrong, especially about the not impossible part, but has now morphed into this;



Which is also wrong, as the requirement is already owning a prohibited weapon in the same class as the one being purchased, meaning no one who didn't have a grandfathered automatic and doesn't still own one, can buy an automatic. Ergo, Canadians cannot own automatics, which is in stark contrast to the repeated claims made by Chernoslavia who insists he would know better than a Canadian restricted firearms owner, along with refusing to ever provide sources.

Have you purchased a "Prohibited firearm" prior to 1998 on an FAC? You said you are the owner of some restricted weapons.

I just fucking said "restricted". Not prohibited. I'm still waiting for your explanation of how I can purchase a prohibited weapon here in Canada, since you say it's not impossible.

3. How to get your hands on a full auto? A bit harder than getting one in the US but not impossible, if I remember correctly you might need some kind of permit.

[Chernoslavia]

Have you purchased a "Prohibited firearm" prior to 1998 on an FAC? You said you are the owner of some restricted weapons.

I just fucking said "restricted". Not prohibited. I'm still waiting for your explanation of how I can purchase a prohibited weapon here in Canada, since you say it's not impossible.

3. How to get your hands on a full auto? A bit harder than getting one in the US but not impossible, if I remember correctly you might need some kind of permit.

Nope. Your screwed in this case, reason why it's harder to own one in Canada than in the US. Though for being prohibited weapons they sure are a lot more affordable than the ones here in the us. Considering you owned one before 98. But hey know....you still want a full auto? There's always the illegal way!

[Chernoslavia]

I just love how you claimed I said that you can purchase non grandfathered automatics when I didn't say such thing. But go ahead keep misinterpreting what I'm saying, keep embarrassing yourself with your temper tantrums.

You did, though.

No, I said he'd have to find someone who owns one prior to the ban. Grandfathered, pre-bans, Pre 1998 dated. But then of course I forgot that you also need to have owned one with a Firearms Aquisition Certificate before '98.

[Luveria]

I just fucking said "restricted". Not prohibited. I'm still waiting for your explanation of how I can purchase a prohibited weapon here in Canada, since you say it's not impossible.

Nope. Your screwed in this case, reason why it's harder to own one in Canada than in the US. Though for being prohibited weapons they sure are a lot more affordable than the ones here in the us. Considering you owned one before 98. But hey know....you still want a full auto? There's always the illegal way!

No, you didn't say that. You said it's not impossible for me, and any other Canadian who doesn't already own an automatic, to own an automatic here.

Do you mind telling me how a Canadian who didn't already own an automatic, and grandfather it in before the ban deadline, is going to be allowed to own an automatic? This should be good. I've been wanting to own an automatic for years now, so do tell how I can be legally allowed to do that here in Canada.

3. How to get your hands on a full auto? A bit harder than getting one in the US but not impossible, if I remember correctly you might need some kind of permit.

You said it's not impossible for me to own an automatic firearm. Are you going to ignore that? Are you going to admit your ignorance and that you were utterly wrong about Canadian firearms laws? Is that too difficult?

[Luveria]

You did, though.

No, I said he'd have to find someone who owns one prior to the ban. Grandfathered, pre-bans, Pre 1998 dated. But then of course I forgot that you also need to have owned one with a Firearms Aquisition Certificate before '98.

I'm not a he.

[Yusova]

No, I said he'd have to find someone who owns one prior to the ban. Grandfathered, pre-bans, Pre 1998 dated. But then of course I forgot that you also need to have owned one with a Firearms Aquisition Certificate before '98.

I'm not a he.

I have a simaler problem of people assuming I'm a girl when I talk about my bf

[Firmador]

You missed the point.

My point was its harder to smuggle weapons via the sea, onto an island.

It's a whole hell of a lot easier to smuggle weapons via the sea, the land and underground into a land-bordering nation.

You see where the Adverse Selection of (illegal and legal) Firearms will begin to skew towards?

You missed my point. My island is situated part of the U.K, gun regulation does work my friend. Heavily regulated, people who have the right training and reason to own them and no murders. That's a win.

I made your point moot, so why wouldn't I ignore it?

Are you going to lie and say Island illegal imports are far harder than one who has 3 times as many access points.

[Chernoslavia]

Nope. Your screwed in this case, reason why it's harder to own one in Canada than in the US. Though for being prohibited weapons they sure are a lot more affordable than the ones here in the us. Considering you owned one before 98. But hey know....you still want a full auto? There's always the illegal way!

No, you didn't say that. You said it's not impossible for me, and any other Canadian who doesn't already own an automatic, to own an automatic here.

3. How to get your hands on a full auto? A bit harder than getting one in the US but not impossible, if I remember correctly you might need some kind of permit.

You said it's not impossible for me to own an automatic firearm. Are you going to ignore that? Are you going to admit your ignorance and that you were utterly wrong about Canadian firearms laws? Is that too difficult?

1. I've mistaken prohibited firearms and restricted firearms for being the same category but then I reread your source. I've never mentioned anything that had to do with requiring to have owned one but I did forget that you've had to before '98.

2. Ignore what? I mean EXCUSE ME for not remembering all Canada's gun laws. How often do they change it, like every 3 years or something?

[Chernoslavia]

No, I said he'd have to find someone who owns one prior to the ban. Grandfathered, pre-bans, Pre 1998 dated. But then of course I forgot that you also need to have owned one with a Firearms Aquisition Certificate before '98.

I'm not a he.

Good to know!

[Luveria]

No, you didn't say that. You said it's not impossible for me, and any other Canadian who doesn't already own an automatic, to own an automatic here.



You said it's not impossible for me to own an automatic firearm. Are you going to ignore that? Are you going to admit your ignorance and that you were utterly wrong about Canadian firearms laws? Is that too difficult?

1. I've mistaken prohibited firearms and restricted firearms for being the same category but then I reread your source. I've never mentioned anything that had to do with requiring to have owned one but I did forget that you've have had to before '98.

I mentioned it very specifically and clearly, which you apparently read but blissfully ignored. I was very specific about it.

Do you mind telling me how a Canadian who didn't already own an automatic, and grandfather it in before the ban deadline, is going to be allowed to own an automatic? This should be good. I've been wanting to own an automatic for years now, so do tell how I can be legally allowed to do that here in Canada.

2. Ignore what? I mean EXCUSE ME for not remembering all Canada's gun laws. How often do they change it, like every 3 years or something?

Ignoring when I had explained how it works, and yet you still insisted it isn't impossible to own an automatic.

The laws have been like that since 1998. Are you going to admit you were wrong?

[The High Guardians]

You missed my point. My island is situated part of the U.K, gun regulation does work my friend. Heavily regulated, people who have the right training and reason to own them and no murders. That's a win.

I made your point moot, so why wouldn't I ignore it?

Are you going to lie and say Island illegal imports are far harder than one who has 3 times as many access points.

/Whole thread is about gun regulation.
/Given example how gun regulation is super effective
/Disregards it.

American exceptionalism anyone?

[Chernoslavia]

1. I've mistaken prohibited firearms and restricted firearms for being the same category but then I reread your source. I've never mentioned anything that had to do with requiring to have owned one but I did forget that you've have had to before '98.

I mentioned it very specifically and clearly, which you apparently read but blissfully ignored. I was very specific about it.

Do you mind telling me how a Canadian who didn't already own an automatic, and grandfather it in before the ban deadline, is going to be allowed to own an automatic? This should be good. I've been wanting to own an automatic for years now, so do tell how I can be legally allowed to do that here in Canada.

2. Ignore what? I mean EXCUSE ME for not remembering all Canada's gun laws. How often do they change it, like every 3 years or something?

Ignoring when I had explained how it works, and yet you still insisted it isn't impossible to own an automatic.

The laws have been like that since 1998. Are you going to admit you were wrong?

1. Because I didn't know that restricted and prohibited were two different categories. And I've never mention that you didn't need to have owned one to get another, I've forgotten that you have had to though. Keywords: "From what I can remember...."

2. So 1998 was the last federal gun law enacted? Nothing interesting happened in 2001 or 2003?

[Luveria]

I mentioned it very specifically and clearly, which you apparently read but blissfully ignored. I was very specific about it.






Ignoring when I had explained how it works, and yet you still insisted it isn't impossible to own an automatic.

The laws have been like that since 1998. Are you going to admit you were wrong?

1. Because I didn't know that restricted and prohibited were two different categories. And I've never mention that you didn't need to have owned one to get another, I've forgotten that you have had to though. Keywords: "From what I can remember...."

So 1998 was the last federal gun law enacted? Nothing interesting happened in 2001 or 2003?

Why is it so fucking difficult for you to admit you kept making up shit about a topic you knew nothing about? Is it really that fucking hard to know when to quit moving the fucking goalposts every post?

I read that you said from what you can remember. Maybe you didn't notice I continuously kept asking you for sources, because I know how fucking pointless is it when someone likes to make up things "from what they can remember" instead of providing a source to back up what they are saying, which you hadn't done once.

2. So 1998 was the last federal gun law enacted? Nothing interesting happened in 2001 or 2003?

Prohibited weapons remain prohibited. You sure do like bringing up irrelevant things to sidestep from how you can't admit you were wrong.