GUN CONTROL!

[Chernoslavia]

Ignoring your retarded strawman, I ask you exactly what gun control do you want on the national scale?

I've already put that in this thread several times. I'm not going to bother reasserting it because you don't want to read the posts.

Also, I've put forth no strawmen. I've put evidence up to match my statements. You've said "nuh uh" repeatedly.

What page number?

As for the strawman, prove to me that I said what you claimed I said.

[Dyakovo]

Now I remember why I don't bother debating you. Have you tried critical thinking at any point in your life?

You can, and America has, add restrictions to freedoms enjoyed. Even those listed in the constitution specifically. It has happened. It will likely happen again.

Making the "is it in the constitution" argument fucking ridiculous, and intellectually inane.

Emerald, you don't want to argue with me because you don't admit that your wrong.

The reason why some of those rights get infringed upon is because we have bastards in offices that lie.

No, it's because no right is unlimited. Also, the right to keep and bear arms is limited right in the Second Amendment.


The Second Amendment endorses gun control.The right of the people to keep and bear arms is predicated on the existence of (and by extension the person's membership in a well regulated militia. A well regulated militia would be one that is properly disciplined and trained, meaning that the informal militia (i.e. every able bodied male aged 18-45) does not fit the bill. Now, you may be asking "What is proper discipline and training?" To answer that, we need to look at one of the reasons for the inclusion of the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights. Namely the Founding Father's (at least many of them, including the author of the Second Amendment) opposition to the existence of a large standing army. This tells us that well regulated (properly disciplined and trained) means training and discipline equivalent to military training and discipline.

[Cameroi]

futaba? (r.c. w/ f.p.v.)

[Ifreann]

futaba? (r.c. w/ f.p.v.)

...wat

[Cameroi]

futaba? (r.c. w/ f.p.v.)

...wat

"control"

though i'm sure Dyakovo has the right of it.

[Confederate Belgium]

Gun control is the definition of Fascism, it gives the government the power to kill civilians with no resistance and those who support it are fascists for supporting it!

[Dyakovo]

...wat

"control"

What?

[Souseiseki]

Gun control is the definition of Fascism, it gives the government the power to kill civilians with no resistance and those who support it are fascists for supporting it!

you support some measure of gun control (e.g. for the mentally ill/convicts, or through waiting periods)

prove me wrong, fascist

*puts on sunglasses*

oh yeah, i'm doing that argument

[Ifreann]

...wat

"control"

though i'm sure Dyakovo has the right of it.

This explains literally nothing of your post. The internet is only too happy to explain what futaba is, but "r.c. w/ f.p.v." may as well be the Black Speech of Mordor.

[Dyakovo]

Gun control is the definition of Fascism

No it isn't.

Since you're confused, here's the definition of fascism: an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

[Confederate Belgium]

Gun control is the definition of Fascism, it gives the government the power to kill civilians with no resistance and those who support it are fascists for supporting it!

you support some measure of gun control (e.g. for the mentally ill/convicts, or through waiting periods)

prove me wrong, fascist

*puts on sunglasses*

oh yeah, i'm doing that argument

Mental illness is usually just the government trying to make excuses for the people from having guns, so no I don't support any gun control.

[Cameroi]

"control"

though i'm sure Dyakovo has the right of it.

This explains literally nothing of your post. The internet is only too happy to explain what futaba is, but "r.c. w/ f.p.v." may as well be the Black Speech of Mordor.

control, as in the mechanical use of the term. r.c. as in radio/remote CONTROL. f.p.v. as in first person video.

i was making a stupid joke. i thought there were more nerds in here who would get it.
as for the actual meaning of the thread, as i've expressed in others of its ilk, the best gun control is to not manufacture them.

[Ifreann]

you support some measure of gun control (e.g. for the mentally ill/convicts, or through waiting periods)

prove me wrong, fascist

*puts on sunglasses*

oh yeah, i'm doing that argument

Mental illness is usually just the government trying to make excuses for the people from having guns, so no I don't support any gun control.

Guns for convicted felons? Guns for children? Guns without waiting periods?

[Confederate Belgium]

Mental illness is usually just the government trying to make excuses for the people from having guns, so no I don't support any gun control.

Guns for convicted felons? Guns for children? Guns without waiting periods?

After the sentence yes, yes, and yes!

[Cameroi]

the foundation of freedom is universally mutual non-hierarchal consideration. people shooting each other contributes nothing to it.

[Ifreann]

This explains literally nothing of your post. The internet is only too happy to explain what futaba is, but "r.c. w/ f.p.v." may as well be the Black Speech of Mordor.

control, as in the mechanical use of the term. r.c. as in radio/remote CONTROL. f.p.v. as in first person video.

Your post still makes no sense. I understand the words, but in that order, in this context, with that punctuation, they mean nothing.

[Ifreann]

Guns for convicted felons? Guns for children? Guns without waiting periods?

After the sentence yes, yes, and yes!

So you do support gun control, as you would deny guns to people serving a criminal sentence.

[Confederate Belgium]

After the sentence yes, yes, and yes!

So you do support gun control, as you would deny guns to people serving a criminal sentence.

All criminals in prison shouldn't be considered citizens until serving their full sentence, all murderers must be executed, period.

[Ifreann]

So you do support gun control, as you would deny guns to people serving a criminal sentence.

All criminals in prison shouldn't be considered citizens until serving their full sentence, all murderers must be executed, period.

No guns for non-citizens either? Yup, you're a gun control supporter.

[Confederate Belgium]

All criminals in prison shouldn't be considered citizens until serving their full sentence, all murderers must be executed, period.

No guns for non-citizens either? Yup, you're a gun control supporter.

Label me as you wish but compared to me you are a communist, and everyone knows what happens to communists, they worship people as their gods and hate all other people.

[Ifreann]

No guns for non-citizens either? Yup, you're a gun control supporter.

Label me as you wish

I'm actually labelling you as you wish.

Gun control is the definition of Fascism, it gives the government the power to kill civilians with no resistance and those who support it are fascists for supporting it!

Fascist.

[Confederate Belgium]

Label me as you wish

I'm actually labelling you as you wish.

Gun control is the definition of Fascism, it gives the government the power to kill civilians with no resistance and those who support it are fascists for supporting it!

Fascist.

You damn leftists always changing your words to your liking! Why can't you try to reason with me when I talk with you rather than bend my words to your liking, because your a Fascist just like Stalin.

[Ifreann]

I'm actually labelling you as you wish.

Fascist.

You damn leftists always changing your words to your liking! Why can't you try to reason with me when I talk with you rather than bend my words to your liking, because your a Fascist just like Stalin.

Ah, so you're just fucking with us. How delightful.

[Dyakovo]

I'm actually labelling you as you wish.

Fascist.

You damn leftists always changing your words to your liking! Why can't you try to reason with me when I talk with you rather than bend my words to your liking, because your a Fascist just like Stalin.

No one is bending your words at all.
You said supporters of gun control are fascists.
You then asserted that you are in favor of gun control (no guns for convicts or non-citizens).
Ergo you are, by your own definition, a fascist.

[Demphor]

because your a Fascist

Okay that seems reasona-

just like Stalin.

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