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by Especially Dirty Hippies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:43 pm
by Grenartia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:44 pm
Trollgaard wrote:Grenartia wrote:
Yes, because opinions that make needlessly life worse for people are generally shitty opinions. Do I not have the right to tell you that you have a shitty opinion if it will directly make life worse for me, especially if I can prove that it will?
And again, I don't care because I don't know you. For all I know you could be a robot/computer program.
If I knew you in the real world and you were having problems, then yes, I may rally to your cause. I haven't been affected personally, so this issue is really really low on my radar.
Sorry if that irritates you.
by The United Colonies of Earth » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:44 pm
The Shia Califate wrote:Oneracon wrote:So not respecting your child's decisions is a problem in society. How do you know that this boy tries living as a girl for a while and realizes that after exploring it he doesn't want to live as a girl? Sometimes it's just curiosity, sometimes it is because they are realizing their identity.
Suppressing children exploring who they are is not good parenting, and will lead to those children growing up to be repressed adults who will perpetuate the cycle.
Parents today are too "do whatever you want and I'll support you!". There has to be a foot to put down somewhere.
by The Shia Califate » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:44 pm
Trollgaard wrote:Threlizdun wrote:I am saying this out of genuine concern; you should really look into visiting a psychiatrist. You may have some form of antisocial personality disorder, as if is not normal to lack empathy to the degree you do. Again that's not a taunt, but genuine interest in getting you help.
This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.
by Souseiseki » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:44 pm
Trollgaard wrote:Threlizdun wrote:I am saying this out of genuine concern; you should really look into visiting a psychiatrist. You may have some form of antisocial personality disorder, as if is not normal to lack empathy to the degree you do. Again that's not a taunt, but genuine interest in getting you help.
This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.
by Mike the Progressive » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:44 pm
The Shia Califate wrote:Oneracon wrote:So not respecting your child's decisions is a problem in society. How do you know that this boy tries living as a girl for a while and realizes that after exploring it he doesn't want to live as a girl? Sometimes it's just curiosity, sometimes it is because they are realizing their identity.
Suppressing children exploring who they are is not good parenting, and will lead to those children growing up to be repressed adults who will perpetuate the cycle.
Parents today are too "do whatever you want and I'll support you!". There has to be a foot to put down somewhere.
by Oneracon » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:45 pm
The Shia Califate wrote:Oneracon wrote:So not respecting your child's decisions is a problem in society. How do you know that this boy tries living as a girl for a while and realizes that after exploring it he doesn't want to live as a girl? Sometimes it's just curiosity, sometimes it is because they are realizing their identity.
Suppressing children exploring who they are is not good parenting, and will lead to those children growing up to be repressed adults who will perpetuate the cycle.
Parents today are too "do whatever you want and I'll support you!". There has to be a foot to put down somewhere.
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by Trollgaard » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:45 pm
Souseiseki wrote:Trollgaard wrote:
This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.
would you say that what is out of sight is, indeed, for you, out of mind?
by The United Colonies of Earth » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:45 pm
The Shia Califate wrote:Trollgaard wrote:
This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.
You give money to the homeless? Are you crazy or are you a saint?
by The Shia Califate » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:45 pm
Trollgaard wrote:Grenartia wrote:
Yes, because opinions that make needlessly life worse for people are generally shitty opinions. Do I not have the right to tell you that you have a shitty opinion if it will directly make life worse for me, especially if I can prove that it will?
And again, I don't care because I don't know you. For all I know you could be a robot/computer program.
If I knew you in the real world and you were having problems, then yes, I may rally to your cause. I haven't been affected personally, so this issue is really really low on my radar.
Sorry if that irritates you.
by Threlizdun » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:45 pm
I suppose that is better, and the degree of compassion one feels for others they cannot see is almost always lessened, though being utterly nonexistent still isn't typical.Trollgaard wrote:Threlizdun wrote:I am saying this out of genuine concern; you should really look into visiting a psychiatrist. You may have some form of antisocial personality disorder, as if is not normal to lack empathy to the degree you do. Again that's not a taunt, but genuine interest in getting you help.
This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.
by Grenartia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:46 pm
The Shia Califate wrote:The OP also raises another interesting question: can people this young really show signs of being transgender?
If a boy goes to his mom and says he wants to be a girl, and the mom sells all the boys clothes and buys dresses, there might be a problem in society.
by The Shia Califate » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:46 pm
by Trollgaard » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:46 pm
The Shia Califate wrote:Trollgaard wrote:
This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.
You give money to the homeless? Are you crazy or are you a saint?
by Oneracon » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:46 pm
Grenartia wrote:The Shia Califate wrote:The OP also raises another interesting question: can people this young really show signs of being transgender?
If a boy goes to his mom and says he wants to be a girl, and the mom sells all the boys clothes and buys dresses, there might be a problem in society.
Yes, young kids can be transgender. Its been observed many, many times by science.
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by The United Colonies of Earth » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:47 pm
by Especially Dirty Hippies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:48 pm
by Grenartia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:49 pm
Threlizdun wrote:Most know when they are young, as that is the average age where we develop concepts of gender identity. 1. I knew when I was four.The Shia Califate wrote:The OP also raises another interesting question: can people this young really show signs of being transgender?2. What problem would that be?If a boy goes to his mom and says he wants to be a girl, and the mom sells all the boys clothes and buys dresses, there might be a problem in society.
by Trollgaard » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:50 pm
Threlizdun wrote:I suppose that is better, and the degree of compassion one feels for others they cannot see is almost always lessened, though being utterly nonexistent still isn't typical.Trollgaard wrote:
This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.
by Especially Dirty Hippies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:51 pm
Grenartia wrote:1. I had inklings I was non-binary at 4, started suppressing them at 9, and finally accepted it at 17.
2. I'm curious about this as well.
by Trollgaard » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:51 pm
by Grenartia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:52 pm
by Especially Dirty Hippies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:53 pm
by Grenartia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:54 pm
by The Shia Califate » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:54 pm
Grenartia wrote:Threlizdun wrote:Most know when they are young, as that is the average age where we develop concepts of gender identity. 1. I knew when I was four.
2. What problem would that be?
1. I had inklings I was non-binary at 4, started suppressing them at 9, and finally accepted it at 17.
2. I'm curious about this as well.
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