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Postby Especially Dirty Hippies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:43 pm

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Okay, this is probably true. No more fat aunts.

I'm hoping you took notes of the discussions of a handjob above, which by no means is PG-13


There is a spectrum of experiences for teenagers, but like you say, no more fat aunts.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:44 pm

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Yes, because opinions that make needlessly life worse for people are generally shitty opinions. Do I not have the right to tell you that you have a shitty opinion if it will directly make life worse for me, especially if I can prove that it will?


And again, I don't care because I don't know you. For all I know you could be a robot/computer program.

If I knew you in the real world and you were having problems, then yes, I may rally to your cause. I haven't been affected personally, so this issue is really really low on my radar.

Sorry if that irritates you.


:palm:

And that attitude is the direct cause of all that is wrong with the world.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:44 pm

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Oneracon wrote:So not respecting your child's decisions is a problem in society. How do you know that this boy tries living as a girl for a while and realizes that after exploring it he doesn't want to live as a girl? Sometimes it's just curiosity, sometimes it is because they are realizing their identity.

Suppressing children exploring who they are is not good parenting, and will lead to those children growing up to be repressed adults who will perpetuate the cycle.

Parents today are too "do whatever you want and I'll support you!". There has to be a foot to put down somewhere.

The line is at being a drug addict, prostitute, murderer or in your case the opposite sex.
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Postby The Shia Califate » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:44 pm

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Threlizdun wrote:I am saying this out of genuine concern; you should really look into visiting a psychiatrist. You may have some form of antisocial personality disorder, as if is not normal to lack empathy to the degree you do. Again that's not a taunt, but genuine interest in getting you help.


This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.

You give money to the homeless? Are you crazy or are you a saint?
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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:44 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:I am saying this out of genuine concern; you should really look into visiting a psychiatrist. You may have some form of antisocial personality disorder, as if is not normal to lack empathy to the degree you do. Again that's not a taunt, but genuine interest in getting you help.


This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.


would you say that what is out of sight is, indeed, for you, out of mind?
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:44 pm

The Shia Califate wrote:
Oneracon wrote:So not respecting your child's decisions is a problem in society. How do you know that this boy tries living as a girl for a while and realizes that after exploring it he doesn't want to live as a girl? Sometimes it's just curiosity, sometimes it is because they are realizing their identity.

Suppressing children exploring who they are is not good parenting, and will lead to those children growing up to be repressed adults who will perpetuate the cycle.

Parents today are too "do whatever you want and I'll support you!". There has to be a foot to put down somewhere.


Exactly and sometimes you got to use a paddle or a wooden spoon to create discipline.

Talking about beer pong and Mac n'cheese, of course. Not corporal punishment, because you know that's bad and shit.

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Postby Oneracon » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:45 pm

The Shia Califate wrote:
Oneracon wrote:So not respecting your child's decisions is a problem in society. How do you know that this boy tries living as a girl for a while and realizes that after exploring it he doesn't want to live as a girl? Sometimes it's just curiosity, sometimes it is because they are realizing their identity.

Suppressing children exploring who they are is not good parenting, and will lead to those children growing up to be repressed adults who will perpetuate the cycle.

Parents today are too "do whatever you want and I'll support you!". There has to be a foot to put down somewhere.

Except that is what being a parent is, unconditional love and support.
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Postby Trollgaard » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:45 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
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This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.


would you say that what is out of sight is, indeed, for you, out of mind?


For the most part.

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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:45 pm

The Shia Califate wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.

You give money to the homeless? Are you crazy or are you a saint?

What's wrong with that?
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Postby The Shia Califate » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:45 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Yes, because opinions that make needlessly life worse for people are generally shitty opinions. Do I not have the right to tell you that you have a shitty opinion if it will directly make life worse for me, especially if I can prove that it will?


And again, I don't care because I don't know you. For all I know you could be a robot/computer program.

If I knew you in the real world and you were having problems, then yes, I may rally to your cause. I haven't been affected personally, so this issue is really really low on my radar.

Sorry if that irritates you.

A... Computer program?
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Postby Threlizdun » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:45 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:I am saying this out of genuine concern; you should really look into visiting a psychiatrist. You may have some form of antisocial personality disorder, as if is not normal to lack empathy to the degree you do. Again that's not a taunt, but genuine interest in getting you help.


This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.
I suppose that is better, and the degree of compassion one feels for others they cannot see is almost always lessened, though being utterly nonexistent still isn't typical.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:46 pm

The Shia Califate wrote:The OP also raises another interesting question: can people this young really show signs of being transgender?

If a boy goes to his mom and says he wants to be a girl, and the mom sells all the boys clothes and buys dresses, there might be a problem in society.


Yes, young kids can be transgender. Its been observed many, many times by science.
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Postby The Shia Califate » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:46 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:
The Shia Califate wrote:You give money to the homeless? Are you crazy or are you a saint?

What's wrong with that?

I have honestly never seen someone ever give money to the homeless.
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Postby Trollgaard » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:46 pm

The Shia Califate wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.

You give money to the homeless? Are you crazy or are you a saint?


I gave 20 bucks to a man last week.

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Postby Oneracon » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:46 pm

Grenartia wrote:
The Shia Califate wrote:The OP also raises another interesting question: can people this young really show signs of being transgender?

If a boy goes to his mom and says he wants to be a girl, and the mom sells all the boys clothes and buys dresses, there might be a problem in society.


Yes, young kids can be transgender. Its been observed many, many times by science.

And, as I said before, even if they aren't trans it is not good parenting for parents to stifle their children's self-exploration.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:47 pm

The Shia Califate wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:What's wrong with that?

I have honestly never seen someone ever give money to the homeless.

Well, you either haven't seen the homeless or people think the homeless are greedy slackers.
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Postby Especially Dirty Hippies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:48 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
The Shia Califate wrote:You give money to the homeless? Are you crazy or are you a saint?


I gave 20 bucks to a man last week.


Did you check his gear to make sure he was a man? What if he was a woman trying to sneak into a male restroom and upset public decency.

Think about it.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:49 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
The Shia Califate wrote:The OP also raises another interesting question: can people this young really show signs of being transgender?
Most know when they are young, as that is the average age where we develop concepts of gender identity. 1. I knew when I was four.

If a boy goes to his mom and says he wants to be a girl, and the mom sells all the boys clothes and buys dresses, there might be a problem in society.
2. What problem would that be?


1. I had inklings I was non-binary at 4, started suppressing them at 9, and finally accepted it at 17.

2. I'm curious about this as well.
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Postby Trollgaard » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:50 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
This only comes out on the internet. In the real world I'm as compassionate a person you can meet, however you have to come to me personally for help. As in asking for money if you are homeless. I break out my wallet almost every time. I have to see the issue with my own eyes.
I suppose that is better, and the degree of compassion one feels for others they cannot see is almost always lessened, though being utterly nonexistent still isn't typical.


Being nonexistent isn't quite right, but it is much reduced.
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Postby Especially Dirty Hippies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:51 pm

Grenartia wrote:1. I had inklings I was non-binary at 4, started suppressing them at 9, and finally accepted it at 17.

2. I'm curious about this as well.


4 and 9 are squares of integers, and 17 is prime.

Okay...okay, I can figure this out...


Okay. I get it.
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Postby Trollgaard » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:51 pm

Especially Dirty Hippies wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
I gave 20 bucks to a man last week.


Did you check his gear to make sure he was a man? What if he was a woman trying to sneak into a male restroom and upset public decency.

Think about it.


Well, either way the person was in need, so I helped out.

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Postby Grenartia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:52 pm

Oneracon wrote:
The Shia Califate wrote:Parents today are too "do whatever you want and I'll support you!". There has to be a foot to put down somewhere.

Except that is what being a parent is, unconditional love and support.


Indeed. I know that no matter what, my parents love me. And that as long as I'm not causing anybody any harm, and what I do makes me happy, they'll support me. And I fail to see any problem with that.
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Postby Especially Dirty Hippies » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:53 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Especially Dirty Hippies wrote:
Did you check his gear to make sure he was a man? What if he was a woman trying to sneak into a male restroom and upset public decency.

Think about it.


Well, either way the person was in need, so I helped out.


And yet you and I both know, Trollgaard...the Trans Hit Squad is still out there. And they're the only thing between us and a cushy gig in Washington if we can take them down.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:54 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Yes, young kids can be transgender. Its been observed many, many times by science.

And, as I said before, even if they aren't trans it is not good parenting for parents to stifle their children's self-exploration.


Quite.
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Postby The Shia Califate » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:54 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Most know when they are young, as that is the average age where we develop concepts of gender identity. 1. I knew when I was four.

2. What problem would that be?


1. I had inklings I was non-binary at 4, started suppressing them at 9, and finally accepted it at 17.

2. I'm curious about this as well.

I am always hearing about young children getting the pills to stop development and sex Change. But the problem is, they're children. They're too young to know what they really want.
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