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Anti-LGBTI Hate Group Persecuting Trans Minor

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Grenartia
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:44 pm

Dusk_Kittens wrote:An update:
http://www.transadvocate.com/pueblo-chi ... report.htm

While the persecution from the hate group has continued, the official investigations have confirmed what the school Superintendent said, that there had been no incident such as was alleged by the hate group.


What else do you expect from a group of bigots? For them to tell the truth?
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Postby Dusk_Kittens » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:58 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Dusk_Kittens wrote:An update:
http://www.transadvocate.com/pueblo-chi ... report.htm

While the persecution from the hate group has continued, the official investigations have confirmed what the school Superintendent said, that there had been no incident such as was alleged by the hate group.


What else do you expect from a group of bigots? For them to tell the truth?


Well, no. I expect them to continue until their efforts to have the law in California repealed (yes, this incident concerns a student in Colorado, because they went seeking plaintiffs and found none in California, and then got wind of something else in another state which they thought might give them ammunition, except there was no real story there, so they fabricated one) either succeed or get soundly rejected.

But it would be nice if YouTube finally pulled their video. I know it has been reported multiple times by myself and others, as violating YouTube's Terms of Service in several particulars, and yet YouTube, which claims to review reports 24/7, has yet to do aught about it.
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Postby Renewed Dissonance » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:36 pm

The Genoese Cromanatum wrote:Shouldn't you be tolerating the intolerant?


No.

The Genoese Cromanatum wrote:How can you advocate and preach tolerant acts, when you do not tolerate those who are intolerant?


Am I a hypocrite if I advocate the prosecution and incarceration of kidnappers or hostage takers?

Speaking for myself, I find that "tolerance" is frequently just a waffle-word for "moral relativism," which is an idea I find vacuous and self-defeating. As I do the "tolerate the intolerant" line. At any rate, not only is "tolerance" ultimately the destruction of morality via the nihilism inherent to relativism, but it is also wholly irrelevant. Those who would deny me my rights and liberties on the basis of my sexuality are not wrong because they are "intolerant"; they are wrong because their beliefs and actions have no legitimate ethical basis. "Tolerance" has precisely nothing to do with it.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:37 pm

Helicopters and shoes, this is new news! Yessiree!
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Postby Dusk_Kittens » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:56 am

Shnercropolis wrote:Helicopters and shoes, this is new news! Yessiree!


Well, seeing as the hate group's harassment only began in October, the hate group's video was only put up on the 4th of November, I posted the OP on the 10th of November, and new developments have continued to be reported (as recently as just a couple of days ago), yeah, it's kinda new news.

What exactly is your concern? That this sort of thing has happened before? That may be so (although I don't recall any "adult" hate group having targeted a minor in this context in the past), but it doesn't mean that the continued ignorance, irrationality, superstition, prejudice, and promotion of ignorance, irrationality, superstition, prejudice, and hate crimes are not newsworthy or worthy of discussion here.
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Destiny Island
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Postby Destiny Island » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:25 am

Welp, this is just another thing that I wish didn't exist.
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Postby Aequalitia » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:28 am

Destiny Island wrote:Welp, this is just another thing that I wish didn't exist.

Sadly but this exist, and a lot people in society even accept this awful, sick idea to blame and hate people who are not in the mainstream of society.
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Postby Republic of Portland (Ancient) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:35 pm

The Shia Califate wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Teenagers aren't fucking rapists, you know.

But they are perverts.

Generalizations are bad and you should feel bad.

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Postby Republic of Portland (Ancient) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:37 pm

Anywho I don't understand how they thinks its okay to treat another person in that manner.

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Postby Grenartia » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:02 pm

Republic of Portland wrote:Anywho I don't understand how they thinks its okay to treat another person in that manner.


Demonize any group of people enough, and you can get anybody to do anything to them.

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-Khmer Rouge
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Postby Linux and the X » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:05 am

It looks like the anti-equality petition won't pass. The article doesn't mention the latest report that has only 93k valid signatures thus far.
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Postby Dusk_Kittens » Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:06 pm

Linux and the X wrote:It looks like the anti-equality petition won't pass. The article doesn't mention the latest report that has only 93k valid signatures thus far.


Unfortunately, the hate group has more than one "Plan B," as discussed here.

Various tactics are exposed here.
Her Divine Grace,
the Sovereign Principessa Luna,
Ulata-Druidessâ Teutâs di Genovâs,
Ardua-Druidessâ of Dusk Kittens

The Tribal Confederacy of Dusk_Kittens
(a Factbook in progress)
~ Stairsneach ~

My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72
(Left Libertarian)

My C4SS Ratings
58% Economic Leftist
63% Anarchist
79% Anti-Militarist
67% Socio-Cultural Liberal
80% Civil Libertarian

"... perché lo universale degli uomini
si pascono così di quel che pare come di quello che è:
anzi, molte volte si muovono
più per le cose che paiono che per quelle che sono."
-- Niccolò Machiavelli,
Discorsi sopra la prima deca di Tito Livio,
Libro Primo, Capitolo 25.

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Postby Linux and the X » Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:09 pm

Dusk_Kittens wrote:Unfortunately, the hate group has more than one "Plan B," as discussed here.

As I said there, I thought their first plan was plan BS.
If you see I've made a mistake in my wording or a factual detail, telegram me and I'll fix it. I'll even give you credit for pointing it out, if you'd like.
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[violet]: Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.
Me, responding to a request to vote for a liberation: But... but that would blemish my near-perfect history of spitefully voting against anything the SC does!
Farnhamia: That is not to be taken as license to start calling people "buttmunch."

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