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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:33 pm
by Greed and Death
Condunum wrote:...What the fuck?

Regime change Venezuela ?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:33 pm
by Gaveo
At least Chile is doing well... :s

Seriously, though, poor Venezuela. The sooner this idiot is removed from office the sooner that country can recover from years of the failed policies of the Chavistas.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:33 pm
by Liriena
Condunum wrote:
Liriena wrote:Have you met my neighbours, sweetie? :p

Something tells me your government has a secret lover.

Not even an open secret, my darling.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:35 pm
by Condunum
Liriena wrote:
Condunum wrote:Something tells me your government has a secret lover.

Not even an open secret, my darling.

You need to get out of there, dear.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:35 pm
by Aeken
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
greed and death wrote:5 bucks says someone claims Maduro's gibberish about economic war, is true first.


A journalist from Venezuela already leaked out documents proving the destabilisation plot. She is Eva Golinger.

You should perhaps look into what she has revealed. To me its unequivocal that Venezuela is facing economic war.

She's biased as hell, from what I've read.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:36 pm
by Liriena
Gaveo wrote:At least Chile is doing well... :s

Seriously, though, poor Venezuela. The sooner this idiot is removed from office the sooner that country can recover from years of the failed policies of the Chavistas.

Meh, Chavez was crazy but cunning. He got some good shit done.

Maduro, however, is a crazy simpleton with lots of power and resources, but none of Chavez's cunning. :?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:36 pm
by Liriena
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
greed and death wrote:5 bucks says someone claims Maduro's gibberish about economic war, is true first.


A journalist from Venezuela already leaked out documents proving the destabilisation plot. She is Eva Golinger.

You should perhaps look into what she has revealed. To me its unequivocal that Venezuela is facing economic war.

Source, please. Some of us can read Spanish.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:36 pm
by Blasveck
New Octopucta wrote:I wonder how long it will take before we get our first posts about how this obviously demonstrates why socialism is evil.

5 bucks says Hippo.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:37 pm
by Liriena
Condunum wrote:
Liriena wrote:Not even an open secret, my darling.

You need to get out of there, dear.

Is there space in your bed for an Argie refugee? :blush:

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:37 pm
by Liriena
Blasveck wrote:
New Octopucta wrote:I wonder how long it will take before we get our first posts about how this obviously demonstrates why socialism is evil.

5 bucks says Hippo.

Yep, definitely gonna be Hippo.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:38 pm
by Souriya Al-Assad
Aeken wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
A journalist from Venezuela already leaked out documents proving the destabilisation plot. She is Eva Golinger.

You should perhaps look into what she has revealed. To me its unequivocal that Venezuela is facing economic war.

She's biased as hell, from what I've read.


There is no such thing as an unbiased human being unless you are a robot.

However even a "biased" person, if they stumble upon a unequivocal truth, can bring it out for all to behold.

As for the claims she is "biased", I have heard it mostly from the same usual sabre rattling pro-"interventionist" persons (whom are over the top, asininely biased themselves) that want to invade Syria as they have had for over fifty countries over the decades now.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:38 pm
by Gaveo
Liriena wrote:
Gaveo wrote:At least Chile is doing well... :s

Seriously, though, poor Venezuela. The sooner this idiot is removed from office the sooner that country can recover from years of the failed policies of the Chavistas.

Meh, Chavez was crazy but cunning. He got some good shit done.

Maduro, however, is a crazy simpleton with lots of power and resources, but none of Chavez's cunning. :?

Good shit done?

Eh, either way, Venezuela needs help, badly.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:39 pm
by Liriena
Gaveo wrote:
Liriena wrote:Meh, Chavez was crazy but cunning. He got some good shit done.

Maduro, however, is a crazy simpleton with lots of power and resources, but none of Chavez's cunning. :?

Good shit done?

Eh, either way, Venezuela needs help, badly.

Poverty did decrease.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:39 pm
by Geilinor
Pandeeria wrote:Agreed. Venezuela seems to just be a right-wing parody of Socalism. Shame on them! >:(

This^. It's a combination of socialism, authoritarianism, and right-wing politics.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:40 pm
by Souriya Al-Assad
Liriena wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
A journalist from Venezuela already leaked out documents proving the destabilisation plot. She is Eva Golinger.

You should perhaps look into what she has revealed. To me its unequivocal that Venezuela is facing economic war.

Source, please. Some of us can read Spanish.


http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-v ... ation-299/
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/10148

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:40 pm
by Geilinor
Liriena wrote:
Gaveo wrote:Good shit done?

Eh, either way, Venezuela needs help, badly.

Poverty did decrease.

A conventional social democratic party could do the same.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:41 pm
by Mike the Progressive
Capitalist lies!

He's a dedicated socialist to the worker's cause!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:41 pm
by Regnum Dominae
Liriena wrote:
Gaveo wrote:Good shit done?

Eh, either way, Venezuela needs help, badly.

Poverty did decrease.

And the crime rate shot way up.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:42 pm
by Aeken
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Aeken wrote:She's biased as hell, from what I've read.


There is no such thing as an unbiased human being unless you are a robot.

However even a "biased" person, if they stumble upon a unequivocal truth, can bring it out for all to behold.

As for the claims she is "biased", I have heard it mostly from the same usual sabre rattling pro-"interventionist" persons (whom are over the top, asininely biased themselves) that want to invade Syria as they have had for over fifty countries over the decades now.

Obviously everyone is. But being funded and backed by Venezuela's government isn't something to completely trust.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:42 pm
by Souriya Al-Assad
Gaveo wrote:
Liriena wrote:Meh, Chavez was crazy but cunning. He got some good shit done.

Maduro, however, is a crazy simpleton with lots of power and resources, but none of Chavez's cunning. :?

Good shit done?

Eh, either way, Venezuela needs help, badly.



Well, if I do rise to power over a Sixth Republic, once I am inside the Champs D'Élysée I shalt write off a €200 billion economic aid package to invest into Venezuela's socio-economic programmes.

If I can do that between 2014-2016, Venezuela is saved. The economic war against them fails.

Aeken wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
There is no such thing as an unbiased human being unless you are a robot.

However even a "biased" person, if they stumble upon a unequivocal truth, can bring it out for all to behold.

As for the claims she is "biased", I have heard it mostly from the same usual sabre rattling pro-"interventionist" persons (whom are over the top, asininely biased themselves) that want to invade Syria as they have had for over fifty countries over the decades now.

Obviously everyone is. But being funded and backed by Venezuela's government isn't something to completely trust.


Nor is being funded by defence corporations, private military corporations, petrol conglomerates, banks, groups such as AIPAC, or any other of these elite organisations pushing for war, trustworthy, I am sorry to say.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:43 pm
by The Republic of Lanos
Economic war?

If mismanagement to hell counts.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:43 pm
by Liriena
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Liriena wrote:Source, please. Some of us can read Spanish.


http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-v ... ation-299/
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/10148

Ok... what sort of conspirators print the names of their organizations on the plans?

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While we are at it, I see no endorsement of actual criminal activities in that paper.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:44 pm
by Liriena
Geilinor wrote:
Liriena wrote:Poverty did decrease.

A conventional social democratic party could do the same.

Indeed.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:46 pm
by Souriya Al-Assad
Liriena wrote:
Geilinor wrote:A conventional social democratic party could do the same.

Indeed.


Not really, otherwise I would not be here venting out. The soft left has never achieved something substantial for any of us in the lower classes, especially not lately. For my case, my family has never succeeded in rising out of the poverty we are in, no matter how hard they have tried.

Liriena wrote:

Ok... what sort of conspirators print the names of their organizations on the plans?

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While we are at it, I see no endorsement of actual criminal activities in that paper.


It suggests flagrant "regime change" in that paper, which, as we have seen time then again, resulted in the plundering of countless countries, the establishment of vile right-wing noodles, as well as foreign corporations swooping in to finalise the destruction of these nations.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:46 pm
by New Octopucta
[quote="greed and death";p="17344412
5 bucks says someone claims Maduro's gibberish about economic war, is true first.[/quote]
That's a sucker's bet. He posted right after I did.