Venezuela actually has lots of social democratic and reformist parties. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Venezuela
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by Geilinor » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:47 pm
by Aeken » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:47 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:Aeken wrote:Obviously everyone is. But being funded and backed by Venezuela's government isn't something to completely trust.
Nor is being funded by defence corporations, private military corporations, petrol conglomerates, banks, groups such as AIPAC, or any other of these elite organisations pushing for war, trustworthy, I am sorry to say.
by Farnhamia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:47 pm
Liriena wrote:
Ok... what sort of conspirators print the names of their organizations on the plans?
While we are at it, I see no endorsement of actual criminal activities in that paper.
by Liriena » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:47 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:It suggests flagrant "regime change" in that paper, which, as we have seen time then again, resulted in the plundering of countless countries, the establishment of vile right-wing noodles, as well as foreign corporations swooping in to finalise the destruction of these nations.
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by Liriena » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:48 pm
Geilinor wrote:Liriena wrote:Indeed.
Venezuela actually has lots of social democratic and reformist parties. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Venezuela
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by The Republic of Lanos » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:48 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:vile right-wing noodles
by Mike the Progressive » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:48 pm
by Liriena » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:49 pm
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by Liriena » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:50 pm
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by Souriya Al-Assad » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:51 pm
by Liriena » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:51 pm
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by Minarchist States » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:52 pm
by Farnhamia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:52 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:Aeken wrote:What are you referring to?
"Lets spread democracy, one bomb after the next, one destroyed child after the next, one Abu Ghraib after the next, one Mobutu after the next, one Basra after the next, one Diem or Sygman or Park Cheung hee after the next, one Shah Pahlavi after the next, one apartheid regime after the next, one Pinochet after the next, one Saud after the next, so on so forth".Farnhamia wrote:Between the lines, that's where you have to read.
This.
by Liriena » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:52 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:Aeken wrote:What are you referring to?
"Lets spread democracy, one bomb after the next, one destroyed child after the next, one Abu Ghraib after the next, one Mobutu after the next, one Basra after the next, one Diem or Sygman or Park Cheung hee after the next, one Shah Pahlavi after the next, one apartheid regime after the next, one Pinochet after the next, one Saud after the next, so on so forth".Farnhamia wrote:Between the lines, that's where you have to read.
This.
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by Mike the Progressive » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:52 pm
Liriena wrote:Mike the Progressive wrote:
The good news is more and more firms will decide not to invest in Venezuela as a result, unemployment will skyrocket, and hopefully the people will un-elect these dickwads.
I never hope for the failure of a regime... but yeah... hopefully the people will un-elect this idiot and his insane followers.
by Altaskye » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:54 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:greed and death wrote:President Nicolás Maduro ordered the military to occupy Daka stores, equivalent of best buy ( well maybe closer to circuit city soon given the likely bankruptcy), to sell electronics at a "fair price" in order to combat economic warfare. What does fair mean ? I have no clue what fair means I suspect fair means going out of business.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... s/3486581/
In other news there is a massive shortage of toilet paper in Venezuela.
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/10109
In my view I do not even think Venezuela can claim to be a socialist country anymore, instead Venezuela should call itself a really bad right winged satire of socialism.
So what says NSG ? has Venezuela gone too crazy or not ?
Venezuela has never been asinine, never will. It knows the truth of what is being waged against them, it is one of many nations victimised by Capitalist Imperialism.
Imposing fairer prices is best so that their people can continue to afford their commodities without tightening the belt during the times of foreign imposed economic war.
by Souriya Al-Assad » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:54 pm
Liriena wrote:Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
"Lets spread democracy, one bomb after the next, one destroyed child after the next, one Abu Ghraib after the next, one Mobutu after the next, one Basra after the next, one Diem or Sygman or Park Cheung hee after the next, one Shah Pahlavi after the next, one apartheid regime after the next, one Pinochet after the next, one Saud after the next, so on so forth".
This.
So... I'm supposed to imagine that everything in that paper is an euphemism for a USA-backed military coup?
Altaskye wrote:Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Venezuela has never been asinine, never will. It knows the truth of what is being waged against them, it is one of many nations victimised by Capitalist Imperialism.
Imposing fairer prices is best so that their people can continue to afford their commodities without tightening the belt during the times of foreign imposed economic war.
Until those commodities are no longer on the shelves....
by Liriena » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:56 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:Because it simply is. The language behind what is written implies they will do everything in their power to revert Latin America into the stone age of Pinochets.
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by Mike the Progressive » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:57 pm
by Regnum Dominae » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:57 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:vile right-wing noodles
by Souriya Al-Assad » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:58 pm
Liriena wrote:Souriya Al-Assad wrote:Because it simply is. The language behind what is written implies they will do everything in their power to revert Latin America into the stone age of Pinochets.
You sure that's not wishful thinking on your part? All I see in that piece of paper is a bunch of neoliberals whining about the death of democracy in Latin America and planning to revert that through active participation in the upcoming elections. There's no talk of installing a Pinochet equivalent, let alone resorting to violence.
Besides, if such a thing was a part of their plan, I doubt any clever conspirator would print his own name, or that of his organization, on the plans.
by Liriena » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:59 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:Liriena wrote:You sure that's not wishful thinking on your part? All I see in that piece of paper is a bunch of neoliberals whining about the death of democracy in Latin America and planning to revert that through active participation in the upcoming elections. There's no talk of installing a Pinochet equivalent, let alone resorting to violence.
Besides, if such a thing was a part of their plan, I doubt any clever conspirator would print his own name, or that of his organization, on the plans.
Neo-liberals are the very essence of this movement alongside neo-conservatives.
No, these conspirators assumed they had a secure line through which they could exchange information, some hacker got them in the arse, the leak is the result.
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by Miyager » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:59 pm
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:If I succeed in making a Sixth Republic, I will ally with Venezuela, help them fight through these times, thence make their Chavista movement rise anew.
by Minarchist States » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:00 pm
Mike the Progressive wrote:Minarchist States wrote:
I don't. Karma.
Well, no, I mean they brought this on themselves. I know that. But I feel sad that they were so misguided into thinking that the Chaveze's and Maduro's of the world held the solution. More often than not, voting for something that seems too good to be true, probably is. In this case, they were promised jobs and hope and will probably end up with neither.
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