15 Years to Evacuate Planet Earth- could we do it?

[Imperializt Russia]

Sorry, late to the thread... Gone two pages in, and although some calculations have been given nobody (by that point) had appeared to directly reference http://what-if.xkcd.com/7/ regarding the launch energies required.

Now to read further, 'scuse me...

(edit: Darn. Page 4. Well caught, that Iffy)

All glory to the Orion Project.

[Ostroeuropa]

I expect we could manage some sort of thing provided we didn't all immediately lose our shit and society collapsed.
We'd need world war 2 levels of production, control, and propoganda; with everyone rationing and working round the clock to get it done though.

Probably something as depressingly simple as:

Have minor space station capable of holding some life.

Throw as much shit on mars as possible (ALL THE RESOURCES!!!!!)

Use space station to research a way to terraform and/or build bubble cities.

Land on mars, reclaim resources.

[Imperializt Russia]

I hope not, since crime skyrocketed in London during the Blitz.

Also, fuck terraforming, just build habitats and land some reactors on the surface.

[Ostroeuropa]

I hope not, since crime skyrocketed in London during the Blitz.

Also, fuck terraforming, just build habitats and land some reactors on the surface.

The number of things criminalized skyrocketted too.
Thefts and stuff may not have risen.

[Imperializt Russia]

They did.

Wartime London was described as a "thieves paradise".

All you needed was a tin hat with a W painted on it, and people would just obey you. For example, demanding someone help load your car with shit you've nicked. Obviously crime did also go up with things like ration book fraud and black marketeering, but general crime did too.
People would raid the houses of the bombed and dead for valuables.

[Lianhua (Ancient)]

Depends.

How were the levies in New Orleans?

[Zapato]

Let's just hope for the rapture...

[Nervium]

Nope, nyet, not going to happen either way.

[Ecans]

Yes. We are a clever and resourceful bunch when confronted with catastrophe. It would require strong and ruthless leadership. Military elites from powerful countries would quickly overrun small nations that are rich in resources. Several wars would break out but the main project would proceed apace.

Colonies would be established in earth orbit (assuming that the planet still exists.) If not, then a solar orbit would be established at the best possible distance. Exploratory expeditions, both robotic and manned, would target several possible earth-type bodies in their Goldilocks orbits around stable stars. Eventually a destination would be chosen. It would then be a matter of reaping raw materials from asteroids, moons etc; make factories and build suitable conveyances (possibly just power the existing colonies) and off we go!

Hey, sounds like a book to me!

[The yoshin empire]

Ignore

[Old Tyrannia]

Nope. No way in hell. It'd be a miracle if we managed to save anyone, and they'd probably starve to death in space after a decade or so anyway.

[Imperializt Russia]

http://www.naturalnews.com/042819_fukushima_health_alert_regenerative_medicine.html This threac just gained a whole new layer of realism.

I call bullshit and hilarious bias.

[Tlaceceyaya]

http://www.naturalnews.com/042819_fukushima_health_alert_regenerative_medicine.html This threac just gained a whole new layer of realism.

That sourced is so ridiculously biased that I will be amazed if it doesn't turn out that you're joking.

Edit:

NaturalNews (formerly Newstarget) is a website operated by Mike Adams. It is dedicated to alternative medicine and various conspiracy theories, such as "chemtrails", the alleged dangers of fluoride in drinking water, (as well as those of monosodium glutamate and aspartame) and alleged health problems caused by "toxic" ingredients in vaccines, including the now-discredited link to autism.

[Tekania]

I doubt we could construct a sustainable biosphere somewhere in the tie frame to save everyone..... at best maybe we could do some thousands of people if we pooled our resources.

[The yoshin empire]

http://www.naturalnews.com/042819_fukushima_health_alert_regenerative_medicine.html This threac just gained a whole new layer of realism.

That sourced is so ridiculously biased that I will be amazed if it doesn't turn out that you're joking.

Edit:

NaturalNews (formerly Newstarget) is a website operated by Mike Adams. It is dedicated to alternative medicine and various conspiracy theories, such as "chemtrails", the alleged dangers of fluoride in drinking water, (as well as those of monosodium glutamate and aspartame) and alleged health problems caused by "toxic" ingredients in vaccines, including the now-discredited link to autism.

Ah , ok , forgot to check my sources , sorry about that. But it does bring up the point that a large scale nuclear breach could possibly force us to leave the earth in 15 years.
And I am ofcourse removing the link

[Imperializt Russia]

That sourced is so ridiculously biased that I will be amazed if it doesn't turn out that you're joking.

Edit:

Ah , ok , forgot to check my sources , sorry about that. But it does bring up the point that a large scale nuclear breach could possibly force us to leave the earth in 15 years.
And I am ofcourse removing the link

If all of America's 100 commercial reactors were hit by a nuclear strike, then yes. Well, parts of America.

Otherwise, no, it would not.

[The yoshin empire]

Ah , ok , forgot to check my sources , sorry about that. But it does bring up the point that a large scale nuclear breach could possibly force us to leave the earth in 15 years.
And I am ofcourse removing the link

If all of America's 100 commercial reactors were hit by a nuclear strike, then yes. Well, parts of America.

Only if the world contained no flows of air , otherwise a lower number would be requered for total global evacuation.

[Imperializt Russia]

If all of America's 100 commercial reactors were hit by a nuclear strike, then yes. Well, parts of America.

Otherwise, no, it would not.

What about three or four chernobyl like accidents in the eu ?

Aside from not going to happen, I seem to recall that it's still safe to live in Europe.

[The yoshin empire]

What about three or four chernobyl like accidents in the eu ?

Aside from not going to happen, I seem to recall that it's still safe to live in Europe.

Not really , a single dirty bomb , or nuke hits zwitserland and the EU is done for, Thanks to the large number of rivers that start in the swiss alps .

[Divair]

No. Where would we evacuate to? And using what?

[The yoshin empire]

No. Where would we evacuate to? And using what?

Depending on the type of disaster (earth shattering and moon destroying vs earth altering) , type of damage ( temporary vs permanent) and speed of the disaster ( instant vs 100 years till nothing remains ) this could be any where from a short term base on the moon to a new home in another galaxy , And the craft woulddepend onthd depend on the destination.

[Divair]

No. Where would we evacuate to? And using what?

Depending on the type of disaster (earth shattering and moon destroying vs earth altering) , type of damage ( temporary vs permanent) and speed of the disaster ( instant vs 100 years till nothing remains ) this could be any where from a short term base on the moon to a new home in another galaxy , And the craft woulddepend onthd depend on the destination.

OP says 15 years. The style of post suggests permanent damage and the complete decimation of anyone left behind. I argue that's everyone.

[Oneracon]

Short answer: No
Long answer: Nooooooooooooo

It would basically be the major spacefaring nations/groups (US, Russia, EU, China) evacuating their own people and leaving everyone else behind.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Short answer: No
Long answer: Nooooooooooooo

It would basically be the major spacefaring nations/groups (US, Russia, EU, China) evacuating their own people and leaving everyone else behind.

And then what?
People can't stay in space indefinitely.

[The yoshin empire]

Depending on the type of disaster (earth shattering and moon destroying vs earth altering) , type of damage ( temporary vs permanent) and speed of the disaster ( instant vs 100 years till nothing remains ) this could be any where from a short term base on the moon to a new home in another galaxy , And the craft woulddepend onthd depend on the destination.

OP says 15 years. The style of post suggests permanent damage and the complete decimation of anyone left behind. I argue that's everyone.

Ok then were doomed ,because then we need a fully terraformed mars in less then 13 years.