15 Years to Evacuate Planet Earth- could we do it?

[Ifreann]

Regarding stargate thing, why would we not contact Asgard to save earth?

dead . All of them dead

No, there's the Vanir in Pegasus. Granted, they wouldn't help, but they are Asgard, kinda, and they are alive.

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But none of their ships

We have Deadlus, with all of their technology. Thats something...

Nowhere near enough. Space ships have very hard upper limits on how many people they can transport at a time. Over tax the life support systems and everyone aboard slowly suffocates, a fate likely far worse than whatever would destroy Earth.

Evacuating Earth assuming the Stargate 'verse could be done with Wraith technology. Dematerialise people into millions of those machines the Darts use. The Daedalus, Odyssey, Apollo, Sun Tzu, and George Hammond can then transport them wherever, and start rematerialising people.

[Larban]

Why is it 15 anyways, why not 100, give us a chance as well man.

It was meant to represent a future where astronomers have found an unstoppable cosmic object which is bound for Earth, or a hypothetical other situation. I'm not sure how far ahead scientists can observe in terms of an impact but I wouldn't expect it to be 100 years.

[Tlaceceyaya]

dead . All of them dead

No, there's the Vanir in Pegasus. Granted, they wouldn't help, but they are Asgard, kinda, and they are alive.

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We have Deadlus, with all of their technology. Thats something...

Nowhere near enough. Space ships have very hard upper limits on how many people they can transport at a time. Over tax the life support systems and everyone aboard slowly suffocates, a fate likely far worse than whatever would destroy Earth.

Evacuating Earth assuming the Stargate 'verse could be done with Wraith technology. Dematerialise people into millions of those machines the Darts use. The Daedalus, Odyssey, Apollo, Sun Tzu, and George Hammond can then transport them wherever, and start rematerialising people.

In an episode of SGA, there were devices based off of that technology derived from wraith beaming devices. They could only store a thousand people.

So, in addition to about 1.4 billion people evacuated through the stargate, assuming those devices could be made with Asgard technology (There's only one of those asgard matter synthesizing devices, by the way) at a rate of one per day, and people would be able to be relocated to an appropriate area in enough time — perhaps requisitioning the stargate from the people walking through it — it would be possible to save only 5.5 million people. Fewer, because to transport the devices the stargate would need to be requisitioned.
One per hour? 131.5 million people.
Perhaps they could replicate the device, in which case it would be possible to save everyone.
Assuming they can be sent to enough worlds. Seven billion people. More, because more would have been born during that time. Most worlds are smaller than Earth, or at least it seems that way — if they have countries, they have only a handful.

So, if we had alien technology and access to thousands of worlds (If we had a thousand, it'd be seven million to a world), we all might be able to survive.
But as we are now? As I said before, there's no way a sizeable chunk of the population could be saved. A few thousand at most.

[Scarsaw]

Not in the slightest. Expect to see, at the absolute most, a couple of million of the most 'valuable' (ie rich, white Westerners) get onto the evacuation ships, but everyone else gets to burn with the Earth.

Pretty much exactly what I thought. The Earth wouldn't be evacuated at all and most of those in the Third World will die. The only thing that I can see could stop this idea that only a few million of the most valuable will survive is that those not seen as valuable will riot, destroying any hope for anyone to leave...dooming us all.


Actually, yeah, the latter is more likely to happen when I think of it.

[Chedastan]

Before the world would have ended. Life would resort to how the Amish lived, except people will have guns and be trying to kill each other.

[Ifreann]

No, there's the Vanir in Pegasus. Granted, they wouldn't help, but they are Asgard, kinda, and they are alive.

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Nowhere near enough. Space ships have very hard upper limits on how many people they can transport at a time. Over tax the life support systems and everyone aboard slowly suffocates, a fate likely far worse than whatever would destroy Earth.

Evacuating Earth assuming the Stargate 'verse could be done with Wraith technology. Dematerialise people into millions of those machines the Darts use. The Daedalus, Odyssey, Apollo, Sun Tzu, and George Hammond can then transport them wherever, and start rematerialising people.

In an episode of SGA, there were devices based off of that technology derived from wraith beaming devices. They could only store a thousand people.

So, in addition to about 1.4 billion people evacuated through the stargate, assuming those devices could be made with Asgard technology (There's only one of those asgard matter synthesizing devices, by the way) at a rate of one per day, and people would be able to be relocated to an appropriate area in enough time — perhaps requisitioning the stargate from the people walking through it — it would be possible to save only 5.5 million people. Fewer, because to transport the devices the stargate would need to be requisitioned.

Why use the stargate to transport them at all? They don't need to get to another world right away, they just need to be clear of Earth, and all Daedalus class ships have Asgard beaming technology. If the Earth fleet isn't big enough, there are other races that would help and the devices could be beamed to their ships.

One per hour? 131.5 million people.
Perhaps they could replicate the device, in which case it would be possible to save everyone.

There's also the option of stealing them from the Wraith. Or trading for them from the humans who used them to hide from the Wraith in that episode. Or trading for them from the Wraith. And even if there aren't enough to transport all 7 billion of us at once, multiple trips can be made.

Assuming they can be sent to enough worlds. Seven billion people. More, because more would have been born during that time. Most worlds are smaller than Earth, or at least it seems that way — if they have countries, they have only a handful.

Only one world would be necessary.

[Drawkland]

No. There are too much people who would claim that as science bullshit, heresy and whatnot and keep attached to their fantasy world of Jesus and crosses.

I am a Christian, and would never doubt the possibility of such an event from occurring.

[Slafstopia]

Not possible with current technology. Interplanetary missions are impossible without LOTS of radiation shielding. Otherwise you'll die 1/6th of the way to Mars, provided you haven't already starved.

[Regnum Dominae]

Not possible with current technology. Interplanetary missions are impossible without LOTS of radiation shielding. Otherwise you'll die 1/6th of the way to Mars, provided you haven't already starved.

Not to mention the truly massive amounts of energy and raw materials needed to get everyone into space into the first place.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Not in the slightest. Expect to see, at the absolute most, a couple of million of the most 'valuable' (ie rich, white Westerners) get onto the evacuation ships, but everyone else gets to burn with the Earth.

Be fair now. There's enough rich Asians these days that at least a few would get aboard.

[Marquette of Pacific]

By 2028 even more of us will be obese. With all these large people around it will probably take more like 20 years.

[Polkopia]

No. There are too much people who would claim that as science bullshit, heresy and whatnot and keep attached to their fantasy world of Jesus and crosses.

No... Not even in the slightest.

[Sensorland]

Assuming somehow there is enough cooperation, teamwork, and resourcefulness, and that all debts are forgiven and all wars are ended, etc.
Then YES. We could evacuate to the moon with big giant biodomes.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Assuming somehow there is enough cooperation, teamwork, and resourcefulness, and that all debts are forgiven and all wars are ended, etc.
Then YES. We could evacuate to the moon with big giant biodomes.

I can't see the point of taking refugee on the moon for whatever reason.

Digging holes in Earth's soil makes more sense.

[New Rogernomics]

Yes, but only the 1%; the rest would die horrible deaths while the wealthiest scurry up the ramps.

[Tlaceceyaya]

In an episode of SGA, there were devices based off of that technology derived from wraith beaming devices. They could only store a thousand people.

So, in addition to about 1.4 billion people evacuated through the stargate, assuming those devices could be made with Asgard technology (There's only one of those asgard matter synthesizing devices, by the way) at a rate of one per day, and people would be able to be relocated to an appropriate area in enough time — perhaps requisitioning the stargate from the people walking through it — it would be possible to save only 5.5 million people. Fewer, because to transport the devices the stargate would need to be requisitioned.

Why use the stargate to transport them at all? They don't need to get to another world right away, they just need to be clear of Earth, and all Daedalus class ships have Asgard beaming technology. If the Earth fleet isn't big enough, there are other races that would help and the devices could be beamed to their ships.

One per hour? 131.5 million people.
Perhaps they could replicate the device, in which case it would be possible to save everyone.

There's also the option of stealing them from the Wraith. Or trading for them from the humans who used them to hide from the Wraith in that episode. Or trading for them from the Wraith. And even if there aren't enough to transport all 7 billion of us at once, multiple trips can be made.

Assuming they can be sent to enough worlds. Seven billion people. More, because more would have been born during that time. Most worlds are smaller than Earth, or at least it seems that way — if they have countries, they have only a handful.

Only one world would be necessary.

1: Because all those ships would have to be transporting a fuck-ton of those things. I suppose ships could be used, though, if they were produced in even as few as ten minutes and filled as quickly as possible.

2: The Wraith devices probably wouldn't have that sort of storage capacity. The ones designed by the humans were made specifically for storing lots of people. And the humans who hid in them would be quite incapable of creating more.

3: One world, for seven billion people, with no existing infrastructure?
With infrastructure waiting for them, I could see it happening. But without?

[Slafstopia]

Not possible with current technology. Interplanetary missions are impossible without LOTS of radiation shielding. Otherwise you'll die 1/6th of the way to Mars, provided you haven't already starved.

Not to mention the truly massive amounts of energy and raw materials needed to get everyone into space into the first place.

Especially considering that, estimating the average weight of a human as 75 kg, humanity weighs 525,000,000 metric tons. I don't know the exact lifting capabilities of Saturn V, but HOT DAMN.

[The Genoese Cromanatum]

Not in the slightest. Expect to see, at the absolute most, a couple of million of the most 'valuable' (ie rich, white Westerners) get onto the evacuation ships, but everyone else gets to burn with the Earth.

Not in the slightest. Expect to see, at the absolute most, a couple million of the world's most valuable melanin-enriched civil rights warriors (ie rich, black 'entertainers') get onto the evacuation ships, but everyone else gets to burn with the Earth.

How ridiculous do both of these sound?

Very.

[Cameroi]

even if we could get everyone out of the planet's gravity well, what we couldn't do is create or find any place where all of us could live. the life that evolves on each world that has life, is very specific to conditions on that planet. especially its atmosphere. but every other aspect of every other kind of living thing ties into that too.

we can change the chemestry of a planet, even its geography and temporarily its atmosphere, but what we haven't yet learned how to do, is create a functional self sustaining eco-system. and without that, you're not going to survive any longer then what you can rob from the one we have to take with you.

some day, if we're smart, we'll learn how to do that, but i don't see it as likely, that within the next 15 years we will have developed THAT capability.

[Libertarian California]

Everyone who's cool goes to Elysium.

[Avenio]

How ridiculous do both of these sound?

Very.

Well, you're partially right - one of those certainly sounds ridiculous.

It's not mine, however.

[Slafstopia]

we can change the chemestry of a planet, even its geography and temporarily its atmosphere,

I'm gonna need some sauce.

[Cameroi]

we can change the chemestry of a planet, even its geography and temporarily its atmosphere,

I'm gonna need some sauce.

i was refering to claims, and my point being, even IF we can, that alone, will not create an eco-system that will keep people alive.

tons and tons of studies have been done, some concluding that we actually could "terriform" in the groser sense, with what we already know.
my point being that this is beside the point even if we can. also, even if we could created a functioning, self sustaining life supporting environment, sufficient for all life, or even all human life on earth, well my intuitive confidence is high, this could not be done in the span of 15 years, even if we had the capacity to do it at all. and the capacity to do it at all, is, again, i am intuitively confident, we are a LOT more then 15 years away from gaining.

[Regnum Dominae]

even if we could get everyone out of the planet's gravity well, what we couldn't do is create or find any place where all of us could live. the life that evolves on each world that has life, is very specific to conditions on that planet. especially its atmosphere. but every other aspect of every other kind of living thing ties into that too.

we can change the chemestry of a planet, even its geography and temporarily its atmosphere, but what we haven't yet learned how to do, is create a functional self sustaining eco-system. and without that, you're not going to survive any longer then what you can rob from the one we have to take with you.

some day, if we're smart, we'll learn how to do that, but i don't see it as likely, that within the next 15 years we will have developed THAT capability.

No, we're quite a long way away from being able to do that.

[Cameroi]

even if we could get everyone out of the planet's gravity well, what we couldn't do is create or find any place where all of us could live. the life that evolves on each world that has life, is very specific to conditions on that planet. especially its atmosphere. but every other aspect of every other kind of living thing ties into that too.

we can change the chemestry of a planet, even its geography and temporarily its atmosphere, but what we haven't yet learned how to do, is create a functional self sustaining eco-system. and without that, you're not going to survive any longer then what you can rob from the one we have to take with you.

some day, if we're smart, we'll learn how to do that, but i don't see it as likely, that within the next 15 years we will have developed THAT capability.

No, we're quite a long way away from being able to do that.

either way, what we are definitely not, is able to keep even a sizable portion of humanity alive beyond earth anywhere, even if we could get all of us off the planet.

the other mention is only because so many on here are likely to say that we can or might be able to by then.