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Postby Larban » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:31 pm

In reference to the stargate idea- if 3 people went through at once and it took about 4 days for 3 million to go through- it would take almost 7 years alone to get everyone through OF THE CURRENT population- thats not even accounting for the millions upon millions perhaps billions of babies that will be born in that time.

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Postby Miyager » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:33 pm

Larban wrote:In reference to the stargate idea- if 3 people went through at once and it took about 4 days for 3 million to go through- it would take almost 7 years alone to get everyone through OF THE CURRENT population- thats not even accounting for the millions upon millions perhaps billions of babies that will be born in that time.


In 7 years our population wouldn't be going by by billions. Not to mention that, as the OP specified 15 years, 7 years is plenty.
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Postby Atlantic County » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:33 pm

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Well I don't know about "kickass." I mean they have a numbers advantage. As to making everything, bfd, that's why we are taking the Africans with us through the Stargate. Duh. I mean made in China is synonymous with "shit."

You mean that all your jeans , computers , shirts , and virtually everything else you own is shit?


Uh, pretty much yeah. Though my jeans were made in some shit town in Pennsylvania.

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Postby The yoshin empire » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:35 pm

Atlantic County wrote:
The yoshin empire wrote:You mean that all your jeans , computers , shirts , and virtually everything else you own is shit?


Uh, pretty much yeah. Though my jeans were made in some shit town in Pennsylvania.

Then what do you own that isnt shit?

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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:35 pm

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Atlantic County wrote:
Uh, pretty much yeah. Though my jeans were made in some shit town in Pennsylvania.

Then what do you own that isnt shit?

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Postby Liriena » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:36 pm

I'm sure we could come up with an efficient form of out-of-Earth living and evacuate a handful of people. Anything more though? lolnope
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Postby The yoshin empire » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:36 pm

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:
The yoshin empire wrote:Then what do you own that isnt shit?

A lucky penny

Made in the USA or possible some other country.

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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:37 pm

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-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:A lucky penny

Made in the USA or possible some other country.

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Postby Atlantic County » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:38 pm

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Uh, pretty much yeah. Though my jeans were made in some shit town in Pennsylvania.

Then what do you own that isnt shit?


Well I said the town was shit, not the jeans. And I dunno. A lot of my shirts were made in Malaysia, Bolivia, and Vietnam. Some of my shoes in Italy. So...

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Postby Tsmida Eri » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:39 pm

15 years? With the current technological growth rate? We'd be totally screwed.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:41 pm

Regarding stargate thing, why would we not contact Asgard to save earth?
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Postby The yoshin empire » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:42 pm

Great Nepal wrote:Regarding stargate thing, why would we not contact Asgard to save earth?

dead . All of them dead

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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:44 pm

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Great Nepal wrote:Regarding stargate thing, why would we not contact Asgard to save earth?

dead . All of them dead

We have all of their knowledge and we also have an Asgard, admittedly a hologram but Asgard non the less.
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Postby Atlantic County » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:45 pm

The yoshin empire wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Regarding stargate thing, why would we not contact Asgard to save earth?

dead . All of them dead


From STDs. They decided to visit Bangkok and it just went south from there.

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Postby The yoshin empire » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:45 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
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dead . All of them dead

We have all of their knowledge and we also have an Asgard, admittedly a hologram but Asgard non the less.

But none of their ships

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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:46 pm

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Great Nepal wrote:We have all of their knowledge and we also have an Asgard, admittedly a hologram but Asgard non the less.

But none of their ships

We have Deadlus, with all of their technology. Thats something...
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:47 pm

I say we just go to Mars and get those Prothean Ruins up and running.
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Postby Empire of Symphonia » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:51 pm

Yeah no.

The nations of Earth are too proud to help each other in a scale to evacuate the entirety of humanity to space before such an event. Religion would play its part in destabilizing any projects, and the even bigger issue of Race would stop any cooperative project altogether. Anyone who was be able to escape would face the hatred of the race of the world and some fool would most likely shoot them down or sabotage the spacecraft before it left the atmosphere. In addition, the cost of evacuating humanity with be well over the present size of the global economy to cope, even at the most optimistic growth rates.

Anything short of absolute world government would fail, and even a united human government would be unable to pull it off. Religion and charges of corruption would impede any serious effort, and more likely there would be a major rebellion in response to the dictatorial powers that government would need to force mankind to work to escape.
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Postby The yoshin empire » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:51 pm

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:I say we just go to Mars and get those Prothean Ruins up and running.

Ok , if its extinction or a space Un , id rather go with the space UN

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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:52 pm

I watched a documentary called Evacuate Earth not long ago and they believed it would take something like 70 years to plan and build a ship capable of something like this and even then it only took a couple of million people out of the 7 billion people on Earth.

So no, I don't think we could do it in 15 years.
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Postby Jinwoy » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:53 pm

We'd have a tough time doing it in 70 years, let alone it would be quite frankly impossible in 15 unless we had the technology and everything ready for us.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:54 pm

Empire of Symphonia wrote:Yeah no.

The nations of Earth are too proud to help each other in a scale to evacuate the entirety of humanity to space before such an event. Religion would play its part in destabilizing any projects, and the even bigger issue of Race would stop any cooperative project altogether. Anyone who was be able to escape would face the hatred of the race of the world and some fool would most likely shoot them down or sabotage the spacecraft before it left the atmosphere. In addition, the cost of evacuating humanity with be well over the present size of the global economy to cope, even at the most optimistic growth rates.

Anything short of absolute world government would fail, and even a united human government would be unable to pull it off. Religion and charges of corruption would impede any serious effort, and more likely there would be a major rebellion in response to the dictatorial powers that government would need to force mankind to work to escape.

Um, in the face of death, money is useless.

If we are concerned about something useless when our very existence is on the line, we deserve to die as a species, round 2 the next system over, maybe they get it right.

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-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:I say we just go to Mars and get those Prothean Ruins up and running.

Ok , if its extinction or a space Un , id rather go with the space UN


No, the UN did more, calling the Citadel a Space UN is a complement that over reaches what they deserve.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:55 pm

Why is it 15 anyways, why not 100, give us a chance as well man.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:14 pm

I'd imagine mild panic would ensue. Money wouldn't figure any more. The military would take those deemed most important to science and the future of humanity and evacuate.
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:15 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:Let's assume 3 people can safely go through per second if there is going to be a steady line of people.

More than that have gone through Stargate simultaneously in cannon...

And it didn't go very well.
SGU? Concussions. Other sorts of trauma. One guy died because of it.
Furthermore, they have to carry a lot of supplies with them.
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If we do one million people very four days, then that's 91 million people per year.
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So any other sort of solution more plausible would have to leave people behind.
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