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Personal Freedom
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Personal Freedom » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:18 pm

The Flood wrote:
Luveria wrote:
If they want to. There's no legal requirement for it. There's an expectation and not a requirement. As I've explained, the reasons the vast majority of Canadians aren't opposed to the Queen, is because for the most part, she leaves us be. That means there is no possible reason to be anti-monarchist, and as I said, if someone really wants to be a secessionist, there is a legal system in place for that, but the majority are not in favour of it. Do understand that officially, and culturally, a "true Canadian" is anyone who holds a Canadian citizenship. It's an inherently multiculturalist country, having been divided nearly from the start by Francophone Quebec. The only defining factor for being a Canadian is legally being a Canadian. Nothing else.
Were it up to me, it'd be treason to trash the monarchy of Canada.

Maybe, we, the people of the United States and Canada can rejoin the Brits then.
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Postby Divair » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:18 pm

Northwest Slobovia wrote:
The Flood wrote:God.
Save.
the Queen.

Okay... I've relocated her to a special hereditary monarchy preserve. Monarchus Europa seems badly inbred, so We're going to try crossing it with closely related species in Africa and the Middle East in order to restore the species' genetic viability. Due to habitat destruction -- especially by Res publicus Occidental -- I Expect that reintroduction in the wild will be limited to small areas of its native habitat, such as Monaco and Lichtenstein.

Hah.

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New Occitania
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Postby New Occitania » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:19 pm

An independent Occitania.

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Estado Paulista
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Postby Estado Paulista » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:19 pm

Luveria wrote:Do you have something to say to me?


No.

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:The Russians should have kept Alaska.


You're not against colonialism when it's not the West doing it, right?
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:19 pm

Divair wrote:
Inruptus wrote:The death of the Tea Party before 2017. :lol:

Not a pipe-dream ;)

Hard to say; they may still hold a few seats in Congress in a few years, and still be electable in some areas.
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Postby Divair » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:20 pm

Northwest Slobovia wrote:
Divair wrote:Not a pipe-dream ;)

Hard to say; they may still hold a few seats in Congress in a few years, and still be electable in some areas.

But they'll have lost the vast majority of their influence. They will be, for all intents and purposes, dead.

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Postby Estado Paulista » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:21 pm

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:Russian Danish explorers found Alaska first, ruled it for some time, thence sold it off because at the time nothing interested the explorers that went there.
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Lynxcia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Lynxcia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:21 pm

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Souriya Al-Assad
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:21 pm

Divair wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:Hard to say; they may still hold a few seats in Congress in a few years, and still be electable in some areas.

But they'll have lost the vast majority of their influence. They will be, for all intents and purposes, dead.


Unless they get zombified with mutated funphorous gas. ;)

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Postby Southern Babylonia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:21 pm

A union of the Atlantic provinces of Canada and New England. Alternately, independent Nova Scotia.
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Personal Freedom
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Personal Freedom » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:22 pm

Divair wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:Hard to say; they may still hold a few seats in Congress in a few years, and still be electable in some areas.

But they'll have lost the vast majority of their influence. They will be, for all intents and purposes, dead.

Not in WV. We like Democrats in the Senate, but our reps are all conservatives.
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Souriya Al-Assad
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:22 pm

Lynxcia wrote:New Soviet Union.


This. Comrades of the USSR, unite again!

I would also be looking forward to be allies with a new USSR once I become Founding Chairman of the Sixth French Republic.

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Postby Frazers » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:24 pm

Liriena wrote:
Frazers wrote:
It's strange that you have concerns regarding human rights and generally seem to want to improve peoples lives but at the same time want to completely ignore the wishes of other groups

Human rights are not a popularity contest.


Yeah the point is more that you want to go against the wishes of the majority to join NI and RoI. Bit of a dick move there and a bit of an afront to human rights.

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Greater Mackonia
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:25 pm

British Republic.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:26 pm

Frazers wrote:
Liriena wrote:Human rights are not a popularity contest.


Yeah the point is more that you want to go against the wishes of the majority to join NI and RoI. Bit of a dick move there and a bit of an afront to human rights.

I was not aware that polls indicated a rejection of unification by the majority of both countries. My bad.
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Postby Luveria » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:26 pm

Personal Freedom wrote:
The Flood wrote:Were it up to me, it'd be treason to trash the monarchy of Canada.

Maybe, we, the people of the United States and Canada can rejoin the Brits then.


Canada already answers to the Queen of the UK. Therefore, Canada is incapable of rejoining something it already a part of. Speak for the US, but not for loyalist Canada.

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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Herrebrugh » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:28 pm

Oh, I have another one:

Refound the German Democratic Republic. Except this time, it actually is democratic. I know, crazy.
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Britannia and Hiberniam
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Postby Britannia and Hiberniam » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:28 pm

Luveria wrote:
Personal Freedom wrote:Maybe, we, the people of the United States and Canada can rejoin the Brits then.


Canada already answers to the Queen of the UK. Therefore, Canada is incapable of rejoining something it already a part of. Speak for the US, but not for loyalist Canada.


Canada isn't a part of the UK. The title "Queen of Canada" is distinct from the title "Queen of the UK of GB & NI". They're in personal union. An act of union would be required from both sides to create a United Kingdom of Great Britain, Canada and Northern Ireland.
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Northwest Slobovia
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:28 pm

Divair wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:Hard to say; they may still hold a few seats in Congress in a few years, and still be electable in some areas.

But they'll have lost the vast majority of their influence. They will be, for all intents and purposes, dead.

Mostly dead is not the same as all the way dead. :)

I don't to get too far off topic, so let me just say that it appears that they're gonna get cut out of the attempt to cobble together a "grand bargain" for next year's US federal government budget. Obviously, the attempt may fail, but it appears the House leadership is gonna throw them a little red meat, and then pass a budget with some of the Democrats. We'll see.

That brings up another pipe dream: introduce a viable third political party to the US, "viable" being defined as "consistently able to maintain at least 20 seats in the House and 5 in the Senate." (I don't think the Tea Partiers count, since without being part of the Republican primary elections, I think they'd fall below that threshold.)
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Postby Distruzio » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:28 pm

The Republic of Llamas wrote:
Distruzio wrote:

I think thatd be suicide. I mean.... have you seen Batman Returns? Them fuckers are terrifying. Little rocket packs and shit. The way they waddle in the face of fear? I wouldnt fuck with a penguin. No sir.

I have to sig that. Is it fine with you? You'd take the place of Charles de Gaulle and the meme.


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Postby Gauthier » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:30 pm

Americans stop seeing socialism as a synonym for communism, Stalinism and lamprey redistribution.
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Postby Luveria » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:32 pm

Britannia and Hiberniam wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Canada already answers to the Queen of the UK. Therefore, Canada is incapable of rejoining something it already a part of. Speak for the US, but not for loyalist Canada.


Canada isn't a part of the UK. The title "Queen of Canada" is distinct from the title "Queen of the UK of GB & NI". They're in personal union. An act of union would be required from both sides to create a United Kingdom of Great Britain, Canada and Northern Ireland.


What more do you want? The Queen is already the head of state in Canada.

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Postby Britannia and Hiberniam » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:33 pm

Luveria wrote:
Britannia and Hiberniam wrote:
Canada isn't a part of the UK. The title "Queen of Canada" is distinct from the title "Queen of the UK of GB & NI". They're in personal union. An act of union would be required from both sides to create a United Kingdom of Great Britain, Canada and Northern Ireland.


What more do you want? The Queen is already the head of state in Canada.


I would love Commonwealth Unionism personally, but I was only correcting your inaccuracy.
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Postby Frazers » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:33 pm

Liriena wrote:
Frazers wrote:
Yeah the point is more that you want to go against the wishes of the majority to join NI and RoI. Bit of a dick move there and a bit of an afront to human rights.

I was not aware that polls indicated a rejection of unification by the majority of both countries. My bad.


Try to educate yourself about the opinions you spout.

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Postby Arglorand » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:35 pm

Lynxcia wrote:New Soviet Union.

No.
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