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GrandKirche
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Postby GrandKirche » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:35 pm

Tel wrote:
GrandKirche wrote:
You're assuming the Commonwealth (which includes Pakistan btw) would face serious opposition in building up infrastructure and improving security.

Like most of the world's problem spots, America being kept out and the British being left in charge would resolve about 85% of the problems immediately and allow work on the rest.


Britain doesn't do 'in charge'. As shown with Uganda's war and Israel's current predicament, it runs away from what it's been tasked with and refuses to look at the problems it causes when it does so.


Only in the post-war era when bankrupt and reliant upon America for money to rebuild.

Remove America from the dominant position and the world gets a lot better quickly.
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Souriya Al-Assad
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:35 pm

GrandKirche wrote:
Tel wrote:
Britain doesn't do 'in charge'. As shown with Uganda's war and Israel's current predicament, it runs away from what it's been tasked with and refuses to look at the problems it causes when it does so.


Only in the post-war era when bankrupt and reliant upon America for money to rebuild.

Remove America from the dominant position and the world gets a lot better quickly.


I do not think Britain's government did a good job before that either... colonialism in India & Africa... the genocide on indigenous peoples in Australasia... the deliberate famines in India... the massacres & concentration camps of the Boer Wars... Its been just as horrendous as any of our countries' in the West's past colonial records as well as present neo-colonial ones.

Including the Iraqi war.

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So, NSG. What are your political pipedreams, things that you'd like to happen, but that are impossible, or at least, higly unlikely?

As for myself, I'd like to see a Canadian republic (And change British Columbia's name to Columbia, there is no American Columbia anymore so no need to differ), an independent Hong Kong and maybe, an independent Scotland.

Your turn.


A Communist-Qadhafist People's Revolutionised Resistance France.

A Souriya Al-Assad forever.

Comrade Mahmoud Ahmadinejad returning to power.

Nagorno-Karabakh's struggle succeeding.

Abkhazian & Ossetian resistance succeeding.

Transnistria being able to receive recognition.

Iraq becoming epic again. Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr epic.

Egypt becoming Nasser epic again.

Palestine seeing its liberation.

Algeria's Boutéflika being able to be in good health enough to give the presidency to another FLN member on time before al-Qaeda fools attempt to seize the opportunity to terrorise the Algerian nation.

Mauritanian Nasserites overthrowing the current slave-trading regime.

The Khawarjite petrol-monarchs seeing their complete downfall at the hands of their people, in favour of a unified, sovereign, altruistic, incorruptible, Green Book inspired People's Revolutionary Republic of Banu Hashim Arabia (named after Mohammed's (Peace be upon him) tribe).

Best Korea reunifying the Koreans

Myanmar's people ridding that military junta with Chinese assistance to such a revolutionising.

Xi Jinping finalising the reunification of China by removing the KMT Chiang Kai Shek remnants.

Nepal achieving a Workers' Paradise

Russia stabilising Chechnya

Venezuela continuing the Chavista revolutionising process

Mexico becoming Communist

Grenada returning to Communism

Egypt seeing a coalition of Nasserists, Ba'athist Socialists, Revolutionary Socialists, Communists, Workers & Peasants Party, Hizb al-Ummah forming a popular revolutionary front to overthrow the Ikhwan-SCAF-Mubarak cabal

Aisha Al-Qadhafi bringing back Green Libya, for the bloody win.

Algeria's FLN succeeding in continuing their struggle.

Somalia seeing the al-Qaeda terrorist situation & anarchical government be swept off in favour of a new Somalia with a People's Revolutionary Republic established

Nigeria defeating Boko Haram once thence for all

Pakistan ridding themselves of the corrupt, Saudi controlled diasporas.

India's Left Front rising to power.

Yugoslavia reforming with people's plebiscites voting in favour of its recreation.

Bashar Al-Assad proclaiming himself the Second Saladin, the Anointed One, as well as adding Che beside his first name.

Turkey's Gezi movement succeeding in overthrowing Er-doggy-gan.

Greece's KKE & SYRIZA rising to power whilst preventing Golden Dawn from rising into an existential threat.

George Galloway being elected by our neighbours on the other side of the Channel.

All our noodly Capitalist politicians & corporate elites facing tribunals to investigate for corruption scandals to bring this madness to a permanent end.

In addition to much much more...
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Postby Divair » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:37 pm

GrandKirche wrote:
Tel wrote:
Britain doesn't do 'in charge'. As shown with Uganda's war and Israel's current predicament, it runs away from what it's been tasked with and refuses to look at the problems it causes when it does so.


Only in the post-war era when bankrupt and reliant upon America for money to rebuild.

Remove America from the dominant position and the world gets a lot better quickly.

Really? Pre 1940's was kinda shit, but maybe I'm just crazy.

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Postby GrandKirche » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:39 pm

Divair wrote:
GrandKirche wrote:
Only in the post-war era when bankrupt and reliant upon America for money to rebuild.

Remove America from the dominant position and the world gets a lot better quickly.

Really? Pre 1940's was kinda shit, but maybe I'm just crazy.


Hey we did better than anybody in the Middle East since Mohammed. And we were dealing with the French there too.
Read "A Man For All Seasons". That explains most of what I believe in. Except the Catholic bits.

Outside of here I do lead a rather unusual and colourful life. As a Spinster.

I just want a nice man with a good accent and the manners of a Royal.

British, a really cliché G in LGBTQ gentleman a lot of the time.

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Postby Esternial » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:39 pm

Less hypocrisy.

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Souriya Al-Assad
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:40 pm

Esternial wrote:Less hypocrisy.


This.

Less Corruption, less decadence, less warmongering too. No more neo-colonialism either.

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Postby Esternial » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:46 pm

Tel wrote:
GrandKirche wrote:
You're assuming the Commonwealth (which includes Pakistan btw) would face serious opposition in building up infrastructure and improving security.

Like most of the world's problem spots, America being kept out and the British being left in charge would resolve about 85% of the problems immediately and allow work on the rest.


Britain doesn't do 'in charge'. As shown with Uganda's war and Israel's current predicament, it runs away from what it's been tasked with and refuses to look at the problems it causes when it does so.

Correction: Britain doesn't do 'in charge' right now. Should it find a great leader, it could definitely play the leading role.

But sadly it kinda lost the will to do so, like a sad puppy only concerned with its own turf, no longer interested in exploring the world and content with chasing its own tail.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:47 pm

We probably need some more carriers for that though.

Given the programme cost has nearly doubled not factoring in the delays and overruns of F-35 today, we'll be waiting longer still.
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Postby The Flood » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:48 pm

Luveria wrote:
The Flood wrote:I didn't say they're literally not Canadians. They just aren't true Canadians in my eyes.


Having a Canadian citizenship makes someone a true Canadian, regardless of their personal views.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:49 pm

The Flood wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Having a Canadian citizenship makes someone a true Canadian, regardless of their personal views.

In name only.

No, they wouldn't be natural Canadians, but they would be naturalised Canadians.
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Postby Divair » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:49 pm

The Flood wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Having a Canadian citizenship makes someone a true Canadian, regardless of their personal views.

In name only.

2edgy4me

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Postby Luveria » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:50 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:We are well-aware Canada's got universal healthcare. Talk about ad nauseam.


Do you have something to say to me?

The Flood wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Having a Canadian citizenship makes someone a true Canadian, regardless of their personal views.

In name only.


Legally isn't in name only. :palm:

Laws are what define what a person's nationality is.

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Postby Esternial » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:52 pm

Luveria wrote:
The Flood wrote:I didn't say they're literally not Canadians. They just aren't true Canadians in my eyes.


Having a Canadian citizenship makes someone a true Canadian, regardless of their personal views.

Well, only people born in Canada have Canadian citizenship.

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Postby The Flood » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:52 pm

Oh another one I thought of, Canada purchasing Alaska from the US, and Greenland from Denmark. Also, complete and rightful sovereignty in the north. The US thinks they can just sail through our waters and say it's international water, but no, it is not. The north belongs to Canada.
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Postby Luveria » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:52 pm

Divair wrote:
The Flood wrote:In name only.

2edgy4me


It's too edgy for me too. It's a good thing a person's nationality is defined by what their fucking nationality is and not 'DO YOU SUPPORT THE QUEEN? Y/N?" What a fucking police state that would be. I like my freedoms.

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Postby Luveria » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:53 pm

Esternial wrote:
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Having a Canadian citizenship makes someone a true Canadian, regardless of their personal views.

Well, only people born in Canada have Canadian citizenship.


False. My parents both have Canadian citizenships and they were not born in Canada. I have a Polish citizenship but I was not born in Poland. You're mistaken about how citizenships work.

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Postby Divair » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:54 pm

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Divair wrote:2edgy4me


It's too edgy for me too. It's a good thing a person's nationality is defined by what their fucking nationality is and not 'DO YOU SUPPORT THE QUEEN? Y/N?" What a fucking police state that would be. I like my freedoms.

Indeed. I don't care for the monarchy, and I'd rather not change my views so I can move in.

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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:57 pm

The Flood wrote:Oh another one I thought of, Canada purchasing Alaska from the US, and Greenland from Denmark. Also, complete and rightful sovereignty in the north. The US thinks they can just sail through our waters and say it's international water, but no, it is not. The north belongs to Canada.

Well, that makes sense, since Canada is rightfully 51st through 57th US states. :)

Ever so slightly more likely pipedream: banning Gerrymandering of US legislative districts nationwide. A few states have already done it, but there are enough places with corrupt politics on both sides of the aisle, that I don't think it's gonna happen everywhere.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:57 pm

The Flood wrote:Oh another one I thought of, Canada purchasing Alaska from the US, and Greenland from Denmark. Also, complete and rightful sovereignty in the north. The US thinks they can just sail through our waters and say it's international water, but no, it is not. The north belongs to Canada.

Didn't America buy Alaska from Canada, and they agreed because they though there wasn't anything there?
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Postby Yorkopolis » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:58 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Flood wrote:Oh another one I thought of, Canada purchasing Alaska from the US, and Greenland from Denmark. Also, complete and rightful sovereignty in the north. The US thinks they can just sail through our waters and say it's international water, but no, it is not. The north belongs to Canada.

Didn't America buy Alaska from Canada, and they agreed because they though there wasn't anything there?

They bought it from Russia. :P
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Postby Luveria » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:59 pm

Divair wrote:
Luveria wrote:
It's too edgy for me too. It's a good thing a person's nationality is defined by what their fucking nationality is and not 'DO YOU SUPPORT THE QUEEN? Y/N?" What a fucking police state that would be. I like my freedoms.

Indeed. I don't care for the monarchy, and I'd rather not change my views so I can move in.


Honestly, I really don't give a fuck about the Queen. She minds her own business. I mean, yes, the courts, and the liquor stores are all run by "the Crown", but as far as any Canadian is concerned, we mostly have a Queen in ceremonial purposes, although it's not that simple as there is the Governor-general who legally governs on behalf of the Queen, so yes the Queen does have legal authority despite what any NSG scholars may say about OOOO CANADA ISN'T A MONARCHY CUZ YOUR QUEEN ISN'T BITCHSLAPPING YOU DAILY (what the fuck, seriously).

Yeah, I'd prefer Canada doesn't have a queen, but it really doesn't matter, because Canada is great regardless of it, and we're better off than the Yanks with their republic devoid of healthcare.

And since I said that, I'll reply once more to this person who has beef with me;

Estado Paulista wrote:We are well-aware Canada's got universal healthcare. Talk about ad nauseam.


I ask once more, do you have something to say to me? I really fucking like my healthcare here, as I would hate to be deeply in debt like I would be in the US for my health conditions.

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Postby The Flood » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:00 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Flood wrote:Oh another one I thought of, Canada purchasing Alaska from the US, and Greenland from Denmark. Also, complete and rightful sovereignty in the north. The US thinks they can just sail through our waters and say it's international water, but no, it is not. The north belongs to Canada.

Didn't America buy Alaska from Canada, and they agreed because they though there wasn't anything there?

No, the US bought it from the Russian Empire, and Canada could have bought it but we didn't when we should have.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:00 pm

Luveria wrote:
Esternial wrote:Well, only people born in Canada have Canadian citizenship.


False. My parents both have Canadian citizenships and they were not born in Canada. I have a Polish citizenship but I was not born in Poland. You're mistaken about how citizenships work.

My view on Candadian citizenship.

And yes, I did make that previous post just so I could post this.

Lighten up!

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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:00 pm

Yorkopolis wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Didn't America buy Alaska from Canada, and they agreed because they though there wasn't anything there?

They bought it from Russia. :P


The Russians should have kept Alaska.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:01 pm

The Flood wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Didn't America buy Alaska from Canada, and they agreed because they though there wasn't anything there?

No, the US bought it from the Russian Empire, and Canada could have bought it but we didn't when we should have.

Wow, this is peculiar.
How did Russia get their hands on the Americas? Did the Canucks just not really care in those days?
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