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Postby Blasveck » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:17 am

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Blasveck wrote:The Illuminati are real too bro. We totes need order and shit, dog.


I don't know about the Illuminati, but American foreign policy (particularly with Carter) was dictated by the Trilateral Commission and the whims of David Rockefeller. It was as corrupt as the rest.

Democracy is corruption and the protection of special interests.

Democracy is bad?
Sure, yeah, with the freest nations on earth being democracies.

Special interests? More an issue of the state than anything else.
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Postby Yorkopolis » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:18 am

Arglorand wrote:My pipe dream is Russia annexing the square foot of Finnish land where Hippo is now standing, landing him squarely within Russia.

And that square foot Hippo stands on will always move with him, so he will always be in Russia.
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:20 am

Arglorand wrote:My pipe dream is Russia annexing the square foot of Finnish land where Hippo is now standing, landing him squarely within Russia.

FYI i'm from Finland and even though I despise Hippo I will defend a brother with everything, which includes the Department of homeland security of which I am a former employee of, my 12 gauge pump, my colt .45 semiauto, an M-4 carbine and my half-Viking half-Celt wife.
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-Communists are big fans of capitalism
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:20 am

Nevanmaa wrote:- Russian anthem would be changed to Patrioticheskaya Pesnya

I'd tolerate the above list if only for this one point...the Soviet Anthem is absolutely, abjectly awful. The Patriotic Song is so much superior both in musical terms and the terms of cultural baggage (a piece written by one of the greatest Russian composers vs. a propaganda song glorifying one of the bloodiest tyrants of history?) that it's simply from another world compared to it. Add "Russia changes its anthem to the Patriotic Song" to my list of pipedreams, certainly.
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Postby Nevanmaa » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:22 am

Yorkopolis wrote:When it's ethnic cleansing of Germans, it's a horrible, god-awful crime. Then, when it's ethnically cleansing Russians, it's suddenly okay to do this.

It's not ethnic cleansing. It's transporting people from place A to place B, and completely justified when those people did not have a right to be in place A in the first place.

Yorkopolis wrote:Except Karelians don't even want to join Finland and are happy with the status quo?

Mostly because of FSB will imprison you if you even propose such a thing, not to mention that Russia is trying to destroy Finnic languages like Karelian and Veps in order to russify Karelia.

Yorkopolis wrote:There are definitely crimes committed by the Russian government, but why are we to hold an entire nation ransom for crimes their government committed? That's like nuking all of America with all of its people because its government is so utterly shit. Besides, if we are to hold the entire Russia responsible for the crimes that their government committed, then why aren't we holding entire Finland responsible for war crimes against the Soviets as well? OH, WAIT, FINNISH WAR CRIMES DON'T EXIST! :roll:

Because those people through their inaction have allowed their government to commit unspeakable acts of terror and tyranny. Regarding Finnish war crimes, there were none. Transportation camps for Soviet symphatizers don't count as one.

Yorkopolis wrote:So you're basically advocating to do to Russia what was done to Germany after WWI? Good to know.

No, I'm advocating returning stolen areas to their rightful owners.

Yorkopolis wrote:Good to know you advocate ethnic cleansing on a mass-scale, almost amounting to genocidal policies.

I'm not advocating "get in that cattle car, you've got 5 minutes to pack your stuff" method. This plan would be implemented on a time scale of 5-10 years.

Yorkopolis wrote:And where do these Ukrainians go? They'll only have little land left, their state would be entirely ruined.

They go east, to the areas that have been Russified. Russians there will be moved back to Russia.

Yorkopolis wrote:Any legitimate claim to these lands other then "OMG DEY WERE POLISH". Also gotta love how now, you're defending Poland, when not long ago, you were fucking accusing Poland of having caused WW2. Your logic, as usual, is zero. Nada.

That land has been Polish for centuries. And yes, I defend a country's right to its own ancestral land. Polish land belongs to Poland, German land belongs to Germany.

Yorkopolis wrote:Can't say I disagree with dismantling Moldova and Transnistria, after all, they're just Romanian.

I'm glad we agree.

Yorkopolis wrote:Again, it is good to know that you support splitting up Russia in the same way as Germany was split up after WWI. You better not cry when, if this ridiculous idea does happen, Russia becomes ultranationalistic and decides to go full-on insanity.

Then Russia must be crushed so they can learn their place. You can't oppress hundreds of different nationalities for centuries and then expect no repercussions.

Yorkopolis wrote:Yes, Balkanization works. :roll:

Freeing oppressed nations does work, yes.

Yorkopolis wrote:South Ossetia and Abkhazia are separate ethnicities. But hey, you don't care, you're a Finnish ultranationalist with a mildly childish grievance against Russia. Why would you care about separate ethnicities if it can involve Balkanizing Russia?

Indeed they are and they have their own autonomous governments within Georgia. Right now Abkhazia and South Ossetia are nothing but Russian puppet states.

Yorkopolis wrote:Then the US should apologize for that same thing. You are no man to talk about FREEDOME and DEMOKRUSY when you supported Golden Dawn over SYRIZA and KKE and wanted Hitler to win WW2. Go elsewhere.

United States has nothing to apologize for. And why would I support a tyrannical left-wing party with no respect for property rights, and why shouldn't I support rightful distribution of land for the Finnish people?

Yorkopolis wrote:The Finnish did some pretty dastardly things, as well. Be happy Finland wasn't annexed like the Baltic states, because if the Soviets had done that, then the consequences would be unforeseen.

Oh gee, evil Soviet imperialists invade Finland to annex it, and it turns out that Finns don't view Russians in a positive light. Oh dear!

Yorkopolis wrote:Good luck trying!

That's why the name of this topic is political pipedreams.

Yorkopolis wrote:The fuck is "LDPP"? I know the LDPR, the most bat fuck insane party ever, but still. Oh, oh my god. I should keep this. You, the ultimate fucking defender of PROPHURRTEATM, want that same PROPHURRTEATM to be confiscated by the state! Oh my god guys! Look! Hippo's a dirty FREEDOME-hating COMMIE!

Everyone make spelling mistakes every now and then. And yes, state should be allowed to confiscate properties of criminal organizations. I don't mind that.

Yorkopolis wrote:Good luck trying!

That's why the name of this topic is political pipedreams.

Yorkopolis wrote:Are you still as dumb to think Stalinism is communism?

Stalinism isn't communism, but in Russia it's usually associated with it. Thus, both must be banned. Communism is a tyrannical anti-property ideology anyway.

Yorkopolis wrote:Sounds like what happened to Germany after, well, you know, Treaty of Versailles.

Except that this time we'd actually enforce it.

Yorkopolis wrote:Then I must ask 'murica to close down all their military bases in countries that are not the US as well.

No, because United States has not abused its power in order to promote death, destruction and tyranny.

Yorkopolis wrote:Then I ask 'murica to do the same.

No, because United States has not abused its power in order to promote death, destruction and tyranny.

Yorkopolis wrote:Then I ask 'murica to do the same.

No, because United States has not abused its power in order to promote death, destruction and tyranny.

Yorkopolis wrote:You want to ban progress? Go back to your cave.

Russia cannot be trusted with technology that can be used to manufacture long-range tactical weapons. Other nations could inherit Russia's space program.

Yorkopolis wrote:You want to go back to coal and environmental death, meaning your grandchildren will have to walk around with fucking gasmasks? Good to know you support pollution and a certain death for our planet.

Russia cannot be trusted with technology that can be used to manufacture nuclear weapons. Other nations could sell nuclear energy to Russia so they don't have to rely on some low-quality coal.

Yorkopolis wrote:See above.

Please do.

Yorkopolis wrote:Nothing to bring against this.

Good.

Yorkopolis wrote:Well, if anything, you don't know half how bad the rest of Europe aside of your oh-so-precious Finland had it, do you? Without the Soviets, I'd have been living in a Nazi state and be speaking German, and you, your precious "right-wing democracy" wouldn't have existed either, because Finland would probably have been annexed to Germany at some point in time, knowing Hitler's ambitions.

Your proof? None. We've gone through this before, you have no proof except your "HITLER WAS SO EVIL THAT HE WOULD'VE DONE SO!".

Yorkopolis wrote:Great Patriotic War, okay, I can agree on that, but banning Victory Day? Then ban it in the US, in the UK, and elsewhere, too.

Victory Day in US and UK is used to celebrate victory over tyranny. As Soviet Union was ten times more tyrannical than Nazi Germany, it doesn't really make sense.

Yorkopolis wrote:So people, here we have it once more. When we talk about how Germany was dismantled after WWI, we hear Hippo screaming and crying like a little baby, saying Germany got oppressed by Poland and other nations.

Except that Germany was blamed for all kinds of shit it didn't do and it was humiliated for no reason. Russia on the other hand has committed unspeakable acts of tyranny and terror during the past century, clearly displaying that Russia is unable to handling the power that it currently holds

Yorkopolis wrote:However, it isn't oppression if we start to dismantle Russia like that, if not even a thousand times worse. Of course, we can't account for how the world will look after we have done that, but once again Hippo shows his pure ignorance of what would happen if we did this. In fact, if we did this, the risk of a Third World War would be closer than ever, considering, you know, Russian ultranationalists would go just as bat fuck insane, if not even worse, than Hitler.

What led to WWII was that the allies did not enforce the Versailles Treaty. In this case, these demands would be strictly enforced by an international military coalition. No rise of Russian ultranationalists, no problems and so on.
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Postby Jinos » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:29 am

I think it would be cool to see the political unions of the following countries, starting loosely from most plausible to least plausible.

Romania+Moldova->Romania

Cyprus+Northern Cyprus->Cyprus

China+Taiwan->China

North Korea+South Korea->Korea

Sweden+Norway+Finland+Denmark+Iceland->Scandinavia

Flanders(part of Belgium)+Netherlands->Netherlands

Austria+Luxembourg+Germany->Germany

Czech Republic+Slovakia->Czechoslovakia

Pakistan+Bangladesh+Sri Lanka+India->India

Portugal+Spain->Iberia

Malta+Italy->Italy

Guatemala+Belize+El Salvador+Nicaragua+Panama+Costa Rica->United States of South America

Peru+Bolivia->Peru Bolivian Confederation

Colombia+Venezuela+Ecuador->Gran Colombia

Poland+Lithuania->Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth

United States of America+Canada->United States of America

Slovenia+Croatia+Bosnia+Montenegro+Serbia+Albania+Kosovo+Greece+Bulgaria->Yugoslavia

Yeah, that's pretty much every political union I could think of with some amount of historical basis. I realize that it is HIGHLY unlikely this would ever happen, but hey, it's political pipe dreams right?

As you can tell, I am a political unionist rather than a separatist.
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Postby Aeken » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:34 am

Jinos wrote:I think it would be cool to see the political unions of the following countries, starting loosely from most plausible to least plausible.

Romania+Moldova->Romania

Cyprus+Northern Cyprus->Cyprus

China+Taiwan->China

North Korea+South Korea->Korea

Sweden+Norway+Finland+Denmark+Iceland->Scandinavia

Flanders(part of Belgium)+Netherlands->Netherlands

Austria+Luxembourg+Germany->Germany

Czech Republic+Slovakia->Czechoslovakia

Pakistan+Bangladesh+Sri Lanka+India->India

Portugal+Spain->Iberia

Malta+Italy->Italy

Guatemala+Belize+El Salvador+Nicaragua+Panama+Costa Rica->United States of South America

Peru+Bolivia->Peru Bolivian Confederation

Colombia+Venezuela+Ecuador->Gran Colombia

Poland+Lithuania->Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth

United States of America+Canada->United States of America

Slovenia+Croatia+Bosnia+Montenegro+Serbia+Albania+Kosovo+Greece+Bulgaria->Yugoslavia

Yeah, that's pretty much every political union I could think of with some amount of historical basis. I realize that it is HIGHLY unlikely this would ever happen, but hey, it's political pipe dreams right?

As you can tell, I am a political unionist rather than a separatist.

Yugoslavia would crumble even worse.

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Postby Immoren » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:35 am

Jinos wrote:Sweden+Norway+Finland+Denmark+Iceland->Scandinavia


It can't be called "Scandinavia" because neither Finland nor Iceland are in geographic Scandinavia. :P
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:35 am

Aeken wrote:
Jinos wrote:I think it would be cool to see the political unions of the following countries, starting loosely from most plausible to least plausible.

Yugoslavia would crumble even worse.

so fucking true, almost as badly the ottomans in the long run
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Death Metal wrote:By the OP's logic:

-Communists are big fans of capitalism
-Anarchists believe in the necessity of the state
-Vegans fucking love to eat meat.
-Christians actually worship Satan.
-Homosexual men all like to sleep with women.

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Postby Divair » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:35 am

Immoren wrote:
Jinos wrote:Sweden+Norway+Finland+Denmark+Iceland->Scandinavia


It can't be called "Scandinavia" because neither Finland nor Iceland are in geographic Scandinavia. :P

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Postby Kvatchdom » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:36 am

Russia taking over Finland.
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:36 am

Immoren wrote:
Jinos wrote:Sweden+Norway+Finland+Denmark+Iceland->Scandinavia


It can't be called "Scandinavia" because neither Finland nor Iceland are in geographic Scandinavia. :P

Because Finland was a territory of Sweden it does count as part of Scandinavia, Iceland and Greenland in Denmark's case
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Death Metal wrote:By the OP's logic:

-Communists are big fans of capitalism
-Anarchists believe in the necessity of the state
-Vegans fucking love to eat meat.
-Christians actually worship Satan.
-Homosexual men all like to sleep with women.

Rob Halfordia wrote:Poduck, Kentucky?

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Postby Soled » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:36 am

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Postby Jinos » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:37 am

Aeken wrote:Yugoslavia would crumble even worse.


Why do you think I put it at the bottom?
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Postby Immoren » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:37 am

Divair wrote:
Immoren wrote:
It can't be called "Scandinavia" because neither Finland nor Iceland are in geographic Scandinavia. :P

Kalmar Union


Kalmar Union Mk.II rather?
Nordic Union?
UNES?

:P
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Edward Richtofen » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:37 am

Kvatchdom wrote:Russia taking over Finland.

*loads weapons and motions to Celtic-Viking wife* ARE YOU SURE?
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Death Metal wrote:By the OP's logic:

-Communists are big fans of capitalism
-Anarchists believe in the necessity of the state
-Vegans fucking love to eat meat.
-Christians actually worship Satan.
-Homosexual men all like to sleep with women.

Rob Halfordia wrote:Poduck, Kentucky?

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Postby Kvatchdom » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:37 am

Edward Richtofen wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Russia taking over Finland.

*loads weapons and motions to Celtic-Viking wife* ARE YOU SURE?

Finns aren't vikings :p
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:38 am

Kvatchdom wrote:
Edward Richtofen wrote:*loads weapons and motions to Celtic-Viking wife* ARE YOU SURE?

Finns aren't vikings :p

My wife isn't finnish, I AM
she is the result of the breeding of 2 of the greatest warrior races in history.
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Nationalist State of Knox wrote:It seems like Donald has pulled out his Trump card.

Corrian wrote: I'm freaking Corrian.

Death Metal wrote:By the OP's logic:

-Communists are big fans of capitalism
-Anarchists believe in the necessity of the state
-Vegans fucking love to eat meat.
-Christians actually worship Satan.
-Homosexual men all like to sleep with women.

Rob Halfordia wrote:Poduck, Kentucky?

coordinates confirmed, cruise missile away

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Postby The Coptic Empire » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:39 am

Oh, wait, MY political pipedreams?

Oh, well, in that case... nothing. Yes, that's right, nothing. No borders, no flags, no nations, no governments. Just communities and people.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:39 am

Edward Richtofen wrote:
Immoren wrote:
It can't be called "Scandinavia" because neither Finland nor Iceland are in geographic Scandinavia. :P

Because Finland was a territory of Sweden it does count as part of Scandinavia, Iceland and Greenland in Denmark's case


No. By strictest definition "Scandinavia" only includes Denmark, Norway and Sweden. And everyone should use as strict definitions as possible.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Kvatchdom » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:40 am

Edward Richtofen wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Finns aren't vikings :p

My wife isn't finnish, I AM
she is the result of the breeding of 2 of the greatest warrior races in history.

Slavs and the Chinese?
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Postby Aeken » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:40 am

Edward Richtofen wrote:
Aeken wrote:Yugoslavia would crumble even worse.

so fucking true, almost as badly the ottomans in the long run

Even the Ottomans did better for hundreds of years. :p

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Postby Ainin » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:43 am

Jinos wrote:United States of America+Canada->United States of America

United States of America+Canada -> A unitary Commonwealth realm with a bijuridical legal system, universal healthcare, progressive social policies, mixed-market economic policies and no gun rights
Much better.
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Postby Jinos » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:43 am

Aeken wrote:
Edward Richtofen wrote:so fucking true, almost as badly the ottomans in the long run

Even the Ottomans did better for hundreds of years. :p


He's got a point there, the Ottomans did last for hundreds of years (and got their minorities to buy into Ottomanism better than Yugoslavia did).
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Postby Jinos » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:44 am

Ainin wrote:
Jinos wrote:United States of America+Canada->United States of America

United States of America+Canada -> A unitary Commonwealth realm with a bijuridical legal system, universal healthcare, progressive social policies, mixed-market economic policies and no gun rights
Much better.


I don't think the UN would let you register that as the name of a country.
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