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Havenburgh
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Postby Havenburgh » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:50 am

the US taking over Mexico and Briton taking over Canada

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Blessed Great Iberia
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Postby Blessed Great Iberia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:51 am

Havenburgh wrote:the US taking over Mexico and Briton taking over Canada


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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:52 am

Arkansaw wrote:I think Poland should get their turn at annexing other countries, we'll start with Russia, Germany, Austria, Sweden, and Finland.

Shhh. Let's see what the internet has to say about that.
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Postby Olthar » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:59 am

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Imperial Nilfgaard
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:59 am

Blessed Great Iberia wrote:
Asigna wrote:
Yes cause for what i see in my country (Philippines) DEMOCRACY HAS FAILED.


I'm inclined to agree. Democracy is a sham. It lowers the sacred institution of government and the potential of any state to the level of the simpleton.


Exactly. Furthermore, it encourages short term populism as opposed to pursuit of long term goals. Unpopular decisions are avoided, even if they are preferable.

Also Asigna, I'm accused of fascism as well. But usually that is due to the climate of denialism which exists amongst the ranks of liberals and democrats. They simply refuse to see this ultimate defect of democracy; it essentially gives the government to people who have no sense of vision or decisiveness. Good governance cannot be denigrated to a series of popularity contests (ie: elections).
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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:02 am

Arkansaw wrote:I think Poland should get their turn at annexing other countries, we'll start with Russia, Germany, Austria, Sweden, and Finland.


Oi! We haven't done anything to deserve that! D:<
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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:06 am

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Blessed Great Iberia wrote:
I'm inclined to agree. Democracy is a sham. It lowers the sacred institution of government and the potential of any state to the level of the simpleton.


Exactly. Furthermore, it encourages short term populism as opposed to pursuit of long term goals. Unpopular decisions are avoided, even if they are preferable.

Also Asigna, I'm accused of fascism as well. But usually that is due to the climate of denialism which exists amongst the ranks of liberals and democrats. They simply refuse to see this ultimate defect of democracy; it essentially gives the government to people who have no sense of vision or decisiveness. Good governance cannot be denigrated to a series of popularity contests (ie: elections).

I think I have debated with you before, but let me say it again: A totalitarian state invites corruption. When you thrust anyone into absolute power, they will misuse it. And if they don't, then their heirs will. I mean, Octavian was a pretty decent fellow, and so was Tiberius, but Caligula, Claudius and Nero were the absolute scum of the earth. Well, maybe not Claudius, but Nero and Caligula were. You can't have a totally fair, long-lasting reign of benevolent totalitarian rulers.
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Dumb Ideologies
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:07 am

Britain withdraws from the EU and the major parties unite to introduce a system of technocratic economic planning in concert with industry with the primary avowed goal of full employment.
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Arkansaw
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Postby Arkansaw » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:08 am

Immoren wrote:
Arkansaw wrote:I think Poland should get their turn at annexing other countries, we'll start with Russia, Germany, Austria, Sweden, and Finland.


Oi! We haven't done anything to deserve that! D:<


True, but who doesn't want Finland?
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Baltic Finland
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Postby Baltic Finland » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:09 am

Arkansaw wrote:I think Poland should get their turn at annexing other countries, we'll start with Russia, Germany, Austria, Sweden, and Finland.

They'll get their asses kicked if they even fucking try. >:( We shall squeeze them between us and our Hungarian brethren. Mutha'fucka's won't stand a chance.
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Old Tyrannia
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:09 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Exactly. Furthermore, it encourages short term populism as opposed to pursuit of long term goals. Unpopular decisions are avoided, even if they are preferable.

Also Asigna, I'm accused of fascism as well. But usually that is due to the climate of denialism which exists amongst the ranks of liberals and democrats. They simply refuse to see this ultimate defect of democracy; it essentially gives the government to people who have no sense of vision or decisiveness. Good governance cannot be denigrated to a series of popularity contests (ie: elections).

I think I have debated with you before, but let me say it again: A totalitarian state invites corruption. When you thrust anyone into absolute power, they will misuse it. And if they don't, then their heirs will. I mean, Octavian was a pretty decent fellow, and so was Tiberius, but Caligula, Claudius and Nero were the absolute scum of the earth. Well, maybe not Claudius, but Nero and Caligula were. You can't have a totally fair, long-lasting reign of benevolent totalitarian rulers.

Don't confuse totalitarianism and absolutism. It is possible to have a libertarian absolute monarchy, or even a totalitarian democracy in theory.
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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:10 am

Arkansaw wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Oi! We haven't done anything to deserve that! D:<


True, but who doesn't want Finland?


We have nothing here, but trees, and lots and lots of lakes. ;_;
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Havenburgh
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Postby Havenburgh » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:10 am

Blessed Great Iberia wrote:
Havenburgh wrote:the US taking over Mexico and Briton taking over Canada


* Britain. God Save the Queen!


HERE HERE!


I will toast to that!

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Blessed Great Iberia
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Founded: Oct 25, 2013
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Postby Blessed Great Iberia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:12 am

Immoren wrote:
Arkansaw wrote:
True, but who doesn't want Finland?


We have nothing here, but trees, and lots and lots of lakes. ;_;


Lies! That's what you want us to think!

We're here for your cloudberries, your saunas and your birch!
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When I'm role-playing and my characters engage in dialogue, text in this color is spoken in Spanish, and text in this color is spoken in Portuguese.
I don't use NS Stats! Check out my factbook, or TG me for any questions and/or clarifications! You may also TG me if you just want to have a chat. Call me Herman.

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Arkansaw
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Founded: Jul 06, 2013
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Postby Arkansaw » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:12 am

Immoren wrote:
Arkansaw wrote:
True, but who doesn't want Finland?


We have nothing here, but trees, and lots and lots of lakes. ;_;

And saunas. And Reindeer.
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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:13 am

Blessed Great Iberia wrote:
Havenburgh wrote:the US taking over Mexico and Briton taking over Canada


* Britain. God Save the Queen!


Obviously Havenburgh meant that a Briton from British Isles would cross the Atlantic and single-handedly conquer Canada.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Blessed Great Iberia
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Postby Blessed Great Iberia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:14 am

Immoren wrote:
Blessed Great Iberia wrote:
* Britain. God Save the Queen!


Obviously Havenburgh meant that a Briton from British Isles would cross the Atlantic and single-handedly conquer Canada.


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Glory to the Fatherland that knew how to follow, over the blue of the sea, the path of the sun.
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Old Tyrannia
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:18 am

Immoren wrote:
Blessed Great Iberia wrote:
* Britain. God Save the Queen!


Obviously Havenburgh meant that a Briton from British Isles would cross the Atlantic and single-handedly conquer Canada.

No, no, no! He was referring to the coming conquest of Canada by the newly independent fabulous city-state of Brighton!
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Kumrann
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Postby Kumrann » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:21 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Britain withdraws from the EU and the major parties unite to introduce a system of technocratic economic planning in concert with industry with the primary avowed goal of full employment.


Abolish our political parties and be ruled over by a group of unelected technocrats in cohoots with industry leaders? I would rather have unemployment.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:23 am

Kumrann wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Britain withdraws from the EU and the major parties unite to introduce a system of technocratic economic planning in concert with industry with the primary avowed goal of full employment.


Abolish our political parties and be ruled over by a group of unelected technocrats in cohoots with industry leaders? I would rather have unemployment.


Alright. The dole queue is over there on your left.
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Baltic Finland
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Postby Baltic Finland » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:24 am

Immoren wrote:
Arkansaw wrote:
True, but who doesn't want Finland?


We have nothing here, but trees, and lots and lots of lakes. ;_;

We have goddamn Santa Claus!
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Kumrann
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Postby Kumrann » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:35 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Kumrann wrote:
Abolish our political parties and be ruled over by a group of unelected technocrats in cohoots with industry leaders? I would rather have unemployment.


Alright. The dole queue is over there on your left.


Been there, done that. At no point waiting sitting in the job center did I ever think this country would be better if it was governed by technocrats - your talking about changing the fundamental nature of the UK for the benefit of 6% of the population, and that's just pretending that unemployment is our main social problem.
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Luveria
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Postby Luveria » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:46 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:I think I have debated with you before, but let me say it again: A totalitarian state invites corruption. When you thrust anyone into absolute power, they will misuse it. And if they don't, then their heirs will. I mean, Octavian was a pretty decent fellow, and so was Tiberius, but Caligula, Claudius and Nero were the absolute scum of the earth. Well, maybe not Claudius, but Nero and Caligula were. You can't have a totally fair, long-lasting reign of benevolent totalitarian rulers.

Don't confuse totalitarianism and absolutism. It is possible to have a libertarian absolute monarchy, or even a totalitarian democracy in theory.


Totalitarian democracies exist in actuality. North Korea is an example.

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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:52 am

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Postby Luveria » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:53 am

Frisivisia wrote:Jimmy Carter, Global Dictator.


That wouldn't be so bad. The majority of the world's civil rights would greatly improve from that.

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