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Britannia and Hiberniam
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Postby Britannia and Hiberniam » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:36 am

Arumdaum wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Your doesn't have a dominant Ottoman Empire in southern Europe and a dominant French Empire in western Europe.

That's your problem, my modest proposal is just simply better.

oh man, i need to make something like this :D


Well, there's a link to a blank Europe on mine. Finding the full map isn't hard either though.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:37 am

Arumdaum wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Your doesn't have a dominant Ottoman Empire in southern Europe and a dominant French Empire in western Europe.

That's your problem, my modest proposal is just simply better.

oh man, i need to make something like this :D

How would you like to go meet the Boat Savages?
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
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Arumdaum
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:44 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:oh man, i need to make something like this :D

How would you like to go meet the Boat Savages?

yes please
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Postby Blessed Great Iberia » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:45 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:oh man, i need to make something like this :D

How would you like to go meet the Boat Savages?


Curious. What exactly where you envisioning when you coined that name? :lol:
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:46 am

Britannia and Hiberniam wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:oh man, i need to make something like this :D


Well, there's a link to a blank Europe on mine. Finding the full map isn't hard either though.

hehe, don't worry, i have like every kind of political division map there is

i don't really like the vicky ii map though since it doubles the size of europe and shrinks africa like crazy, also asia

or everything else might just look a lot smaller due to how much they oversize europe in it
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Postby MirrorMask » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:49 am

Political pipe dream? See an independent Basque Country. Unlikely but one can always hope.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:50 am

Blessed Great Iberia wrote:Curious. What exactly where you envisioning when you coined that name? :lol:

The extent of my knowledge regarding the Polynesian/Malaysian/Etc culture is that they were generally tribal or some such and got around in small canoes, since there were lots of tiny islands everywhere. Thus to most people they'd be 'uncivilized'. Taking into account the boats, I got 'Boat Savages'.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:04 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:The extent of my knowledge regarding the Polynesian/Malaysian/Etc culture is that they were generally tribal or some such and got around in small canoes, since there were lots of tiny islands everywhere. Thus to most people they'd be 'uncivilized'. Taking into account the boats, I got 'Boat Savages'.


And that's before we get to the whole cannibalism thing.
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Postby Azurand » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:05 am

The abolition of all states while the world remains to live under lawful realm of everyone's voluntary association

Liberty or death
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Postby Britannia and Hiberniam » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:07 am

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Postby Blessed Great Iberia » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:08 am

Costa Alegria wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:The extent of my knowledge regarding the Polynesian/Malaysian/Etc culture is that they were generally tribal or some such and got around in small canoes, since there were lots of tiny islands everywhere. Thus to most people they'd be 'uncivilized'. Taking into account the boats, I got 'Boat Savages'.


And that's before we get to the whole cannibalism thing.


:blink:
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Postby Aeken » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:09 am

Blessed Great Iberia wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
And that's before we get to the whole cannibalism thing.


:blink:

Well, some were cannibals.

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Postby Azurand » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:09 am

Britannia and Hiberniam wrote:A worldwide wave of opposition to anarchists and libertarians before their naive doctrines threaten humanity.

Liberty will never be threatened by statist oppressors
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Postby Aeken » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:10 am

Azurand wrote:
Britannia and Hiberniam wrote:A worldwide wave of opposition to anarchists and libertarians before their naive doctrines threaten humanity.

Liberty will never be threatened by statist oppressors

I'm not so sure about that.

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Postby Blessed Great Iberia » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:13 am

Aeken wrote:
Azurand wrote:Liberty will never be threatened by statist oppressors

I'm not so sure about that.


You just became one of my favorite-est people here.
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Postby Britannia and Hiberniam » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:13 am

It is through the participation in the state that our rights are protected. We must abrogate those unnecessary rights (like the right to bear arms) in order to protect our necessary rights (right to life).
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:13 am

Azurand wrote:
Britannia and Hiberniam wrote:A worldwide wave of opposition to anarchists and libertarians before their naive doctrines threaten humanity.

Liberty will never be threatened by statist oppressors

"an"cap isn't liberty
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Postby Aeken » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:18 am

Blessed Great Iberia wrote:
Aeken wrote:I'm not so sure about that.


You just became one of my favorite-est people here.

That deserves a :hug:

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Postby Britannia and Hiberniam » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:21 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Azurand wrote:Liberty will never be threatened by statist oppressors

"an"cap isn't liberty


I know an anarcho-capitalist in real life. Lovely guy, he's the ONLY anarcho-capitalist I've ever met who's A) polite and B) respects the reasoning behind your opposing views. Every other anarchist I've met has been foul and accused me of being an authoritarian just because I support the institution of the state as a vehicle for improving people's lives.
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Postby Blessed Great Iberia » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:22 am

Aeken wrote:
Blessed Great Iberia wrote:
You just became one of my favorite-est people here.

That deserves a :hug:


:hug:
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Postby Azurand » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:23 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Azurand wrote:Liberty will never be threatened by statist oppressors

"an"cap isn't liberty

But unfortunately I ain't an AnCap, as above is just it, 'political pipedream' and nothing more. If I'm an AnCap I'd advocate the abolition of state which I don't and prefer a small government
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Postby Britannia and Hiberniam » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:24 am

Azurand wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:"an"cap isn't liberty

But unfortunately I ain't an AnCap, as above is just it, 'political pipedream' and nothing more. If I'm an AnCap I'd advocate the abolition of state which I don't and prefer a small government


So you're a minarchist and prefer to have a government so small that it doesn't work?
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Postby Blessed Great Iberia » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:25 am

Britannia and Hiberniam wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:"an"cap isn't liberty


I know an anarcho-capitalist in real life. Lovely guy, he's the ONLY anarcho-capitalist I've ever met who's A) polite and B) respects the reasoning behind your opposing views. Every other anarchist I've met has been foul and accused me of being an authoritarian just because I support the institution of the state as a vehicle for improving people's lives.


TBH, I'd favor an authoritarian administration way more in war-time or if my country were to fall into a socio-economic crunch.
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Postby Azurand » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:26 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Britannia and Hiberniam wrote:No one got anything to say on mine? D:

Your doesn't have a dominant Ottoman Empire in southern Europe and a dominant French Empire in western Europe.

That's your problem, my modest proposal is just simply better.

Is that a Maya-Inca-Aztec there my lad
Britannia and Hiberniam wrote:So you're a minarchist and prefer to have a government so small that it doesn't work?

:rofl:
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Postby Britannia and Hiberniam » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:27 am

Blessed Great Iberia wrote:
Britannia and Hiberniam wrote:
I know an anarcho-capitalist in real life. Lovely guy, he's the ONLY anarcho-capitalist I've ever met who's A) polite and B) respects the reasoning behind your opposing views. Every other anarchist I've met has been foul and accused me of being an authoritarian just because I support the institution of the state as a vehicle for improving people's lives.


TBH, I'd favor an authoritarian administration way more in war-time or if my country were to fall into a socio-economic crunch.


That anarcho-capitalist said also that he'd always prefer the other side's solution (within reason) rather than an ill built compromise. So whilst he supports a system of uninterfered health insurance, he would prefer fully socialised healthcare rather than something ill made like Obamacare.
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