Political Pipedreams?

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Covert operatives fomenting ethnic tensions, combined with Operation Gladio scenarios across Yugoslavia.

Do show us proof.

No one saw it coming.

You're fucking joking, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_of_tension
http://books.google.fr/books/about/Mili ... edir_esc=y
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... -rMx9PtVDw
http://leaksource.wordpress.com/2013/01 ... m-exposed/
http://operation-gladio.net/taxonomy/term/380/all
http://nsnbc.me/2012/02/02/gladio-bin-l ... wear-2012/
http://www.ied.info/articles/american-a ... stabilized
http://www.globalresearch.ca/24-march-1 ... ized-crime
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Yugos ... erapy.html
http://www.tmcrew.org/news/nato/germany_usa.htm
http://inquiringminds.cc/destabilizing- ... syriasyria
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9905/24/kosovo.01/
http://www.nspm.rs/nspm-in-english/24-m ... lavia.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k83L3I6Z35w

[Yue-Laou]

McCain 2016. This time without palin please.

Pretty sure we already had a thread like this one not long ago.

[Seitonjin]

Blame Game™

Only if you're not of my ideology.

Hypothetically speaking, if I were a Stalinist-Hoxhaist-Titoist-anti-imperialist-Juchist who praises every demented totalitarian leftie regime there ever was, naturally, I would hurl metaphorical and fabricated shit at the US every opportunity possible because my views would be so ridiculous.

What of those that are anti-West for the shits and giggles?

Unless... what you display is anti-West for shits and giggles.

[Aeken]

McCain 2016. This time without palin please.

Pretty sure we already had a thread like this one not long ago.

That wouldn't be good at all.

[Seitonjin]

McCain 2016. This time without palin please.

Pretty sure we already had a thread like this one not long ago.

Pretty sure that ISN'T a pipe dream but still crappy and terrible nevertheless.

[Luveria]

Only if you're not of my ideology.

Hypothetically speaking, if I were a Stalinist-Hoxhaist-Titoist-anti-imperialist-Juchist who praises every demented totalitarian leftie regime there ever was, naturally, I would hurl metaphorical and fabricated shit at the US every opportunity possible because my views would be so ridiculous.

What of those that are anti-West for the shits and giggles?

Unless... what you display is anti-West for shits and giggles.

No, I'm anti-West because I'm a spoiled little shit was born into an upper-middle class family. I never worked a day in my life, yet every day I bitch on online forums about the plight of the workers.

/HowThingsReallyAreForMostConspiracyBeleivingHardcoreTotalitarianStalinstsOnThisForum/sarcasm

Do you see any other way such a thing can take place?

[Seitonjin]

What of those that are anti-West for the shits and giggles?

Unless... what you display is anti-West for shits and giggles.

No, I'm anti-West because I'm a spoiled little shit was born into an upper-middle class family. I never worked a day in my life, yet every day I bitch on online forums about the plight of the workers.

/HowThingsReallyAreForMostConspiracyBeleivingHardcoreTotalitarianStalinstsOnThisForum/sarcasm

Do you see any other way such a thing can take place?

(omg that's me)

/totes

Hmmm... Crazed AnCaps?

[Luveria]

No, I'm anti-West because I'm a spoiled little shit was born into an upper-middle class family. I never worked a day in my life, yet every day I bitch on online forums about the plight of the workers.

/HowThingsReallyAreForMostConspiracyBeleivingHardcoreTotalitarianStalinstsOnThisForum/sarcasm

Do you see any other way such a thing can take place?

(omg that's me)

/totes

Hmmm... Crazed AnCaps?

I forgot to add the part about

LETS BLAME EVERYTHING POSSIBLE ON THE WEST NO MATTER HOW FUCKING RIDICULOUS IT IS TO DO SO!

I mean, if it wasn't for the West, North Korea would be the greatest worker's paradise ever! It's the West's fault it's so shitty! Even though the USSR and China are responsible for North Korea! FUCK FACTS!

/ALEX JONES 2016

[Souriya Al-Assad]

What of those that are anti-West for the shits and giggles?

Unless... what you display is anti-West for shits and giggles.

No, I'm anti-West because I'm a spoiled little shit was born into an upper-middle class family. I never worked a day in my life, yet every day I bitch on online forums about the plight of the workers.

/HowThingsReallyAreForMostConspiracyBeleivingHardcoreTotalitarianStalinstsOnThisForum/sarcasm

Do you see any other way such a thing can take place?

Utter rubbish.

I am from a lower class family. I know the realities of this f*cked system.

[Seitonjin]

(omg that's me)

/totes

Hmmm... Crazed AnCaps?

I forgot to add the part about

LETS BLAME EVERYTHING POSSIBLE ON THE WEST NO MATTER HOW FUCKING RIDICULOUS IT IS TO DO SO!

I mean, if it wasn't for the West, North Korea would be the greatest worker's paradise ever! It's the West's fault it's so shitty! Even though the USSR and China are responsible for North Korea! FUCK FACTS!

/ALEX JONES 2016

*sprays water at you*

Okai time for a chilly down. Regardless of this, one thing that was the West's fault could be the accidental creation of, excuse me, the Taliban.

/okai

[Luveria]

No, I'm anti-West because I'm a spoiled little shit was born into an upper-middle class family. I never worked a day in my life, yet every day I bitch on online forums about the plight of the workers.

/HowThingsReallyAreForMostConspiracyBeleivingHardcoreTotalitarianStalinstsOnThisForum/sarcasm

Do you see any other way such a thing can take place?

Utter rubbish.

I am from a lower class family. I know the realities of this f*cked system.

If you don't mind me asking, are you by any chance Syrian in any way? I'm curious, given your interest in it.
And no I wasn't referring to you. I was taking a jab at a lot of totalitarians on this site, especially those who claim to support North Korea, yet would never move there.

I forgot to add the part about

LETS BLAME EVERYTHING POSSIBLE ON THE WEST NO MATTER HOW FUCKING RIDICULOUS IT IS TO DO SO!

I mean, if it wasn't for the West, North Korea would be the greatest worker's paradise ever! It's the West's fault it's so shitty! Even though the USSR and China are responsible for North Korea! FUCK FACTS!

/ALEX JONES 2016

*sprays water at you*

Okai time for a chilly down. Regardless of this, one thing that was the West's fault could be the accidental creation of, excuse me, the Taliban.

/okai

I'm calm. The West isn't to blame for the Taliban, but certainly contributed to the problem being as bad as it is.

[Seitonjin]

*sprays water at you*

Okai time for a chilly down. Regardless of this, one thing that was the West's fault could be the accidental creation of, excuse me, the Taliban.

/okai

I'm calm. The West isn't to blame for it, but certainly contributed to the problem being as bad as it is.

Are you sure? I have three more liters left.

What of CIA missions in Iran, Chile, Honduras, et all? Technically filed under Western misguidance I'm sure.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Utter rubbish.

I am from a lower class family. I know the realities of this f*cked system.

If you don't mind me asking, are you by any chance Syrian in any way? I'm curious, given your interest in it.
And no I wasn't referring to you. I was taking a jab at a lot of totalitarians on this site, especially those who claim to support North Korea, yet would never move there.

*sprays water at you*

Okai time for a chilly down. Regardless of this, one thing that was the West's fault could be the accidental creation of, excuse me, the Taliban.

/okai

I'm calm. The West isn't to blame for the Taliban, but certainly contributed to the problem being as bad as it is.

I am French. I just happen to love Syria like the other fellow countryman whom said quite famously, "All Men have two homelands, their's as well as Syria's".

I'm calm. The West isn't to blame for it, but certainly contributed to the problem being as bad as it is.

Are you sure? I have three more liters left.

What of CIA missions in Iran, Chile, Honduras, et all? Technically filed under Western misguidance I'm sure.

I know right? As if the contras, the 1953 coup, the 1949 coup were all organised "errors".

[Olivaero]

Utter rubbish.

I am from a lower class family. I know the realities of this f*cked system.

If you don't mind me asking, are you by any chance Syrian in any way? I'm curious, given your interest in it.
And no I wasn't referring to you. I was taking a jab at a lot of totalitarians on this site, especially those who claim to support North Korea, yet would never move there.

Pretty sure they are french.

Edit: and it seems I was correct!

[Luveria]

I'm calm. The West isn't to blame for it, but certainly contributed to the problem being as bad as it is.

Are you sure? I have three more liters left.

What of CIA missions in Iran, Chile, Honduras, et all? Technically filed under Western misguidance I'm sure.

Liters of rum? Slow down. Three liters of rum at once could be lethal for someone of your small Asian stature.

Uhmm....

Uhhhh...

Yeah, I'd say those were severe Western misguidance. I recognize it's the USA's fault for making Iran into what it is, but it's also the USA's fault for not having tried to normalize relations with Iran after they fucked it up. Yes, the US has done things, but it's unfair to say the "West" as a whole does it, as Canada usually has no part in these ridiculous things. Keyword: Usually.

[Vicswampia]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

Yugoslavia isn't even mentioned on the article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_of_tension

...and?

http://books.google.fr/books/about/Military_Operations_Involving_Nato.html?id=sn3GbwAACAAJ&redir_esc=y
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... -rMx9PtVDw

Also, nothing specific about Yugoslavia, or how America destroyed it.

http://leaksource.wordpress.com/2013/01/12/operation-gladio-state-sponsored-terrorism-exposed/

Not a reputable source. Is this the leftist Onion or what?

http://operation-gladio.net/taxonomy/term/380/all

I don't speak French and this probably has nothing to do with the subject.

http://nsnbc.me/2012/02/02/gladio-bin-laden-to-erdogan-belhadj-and-hamas-mossad%C2%B4s-and-nato%C2%B4s-dirty-underwear-2012/

Yugoslavia isn't even mentioned on the article.

http://www.ied.info/articles/american-airmen-finished-out-their-lives-in-soviet-prisons/now-it-was-yugoslavia%E2%80%99s-turn-to-be-destabilized

Not reputable.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/24-march-1999-remembering-the-nato-led-war-on-yugoslavia-kosovo-freedom-fighters-financed-by-organized-crime

This is pretty biased and the events cited happened during the civil war.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Yugoslavia/Yugoslavia_ShockTherapy.html

"Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order"

That's where I stopped reading.

http://www.tmcrew.org/news/nato/germany_usa.htm

Not a reputable source.

http://inquiringminds.cc/destabilizing-yugoslavia-oops-sorry-wrong-year-destabilising-syriasyria

Not a reputable source.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9905/24/kosovo.01/

This happened on Milosevic's government, so the West hasn't been sabotating Yugoslavia since Tito's reign. And I don't see how it is bad to destabilize a war criminal's government.

http://www.nspm.rs/nspm-in-english/24-march-1999-remembering-the-nato-led-war-on-yugoslavia.html

Not a reputable sourc, events happened during the civil war, yadda yadda...

For fuck's sake, stop wasting my time if you can't come up with anything legit.

[Luveria]

I am French. I just happen to love Syria like the other fellow countryman whom said quite famously, "All Men have two homelands, their's as well as Syria's".

That is surprising. I assumed you at least had some Syrian relatives.
I already have two homelands, being a citizen of Canada and Poland, so I cannot identify with your statement. :/

[Souriya Al-Assad]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

Yugoslavia isn't even mentioned on the article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_of_tension

...and?

http://books.google.fr/books/about/Military_Operations_Involving_Nato.html?id=sn3GbwAACAAJ&redir_esc=y
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... -rMx9PtVDw

Also, nothing specific about Yugoslavia, or how America destroyed it.

http://leaksource.wordpress.com/2013/01/12/operation-gladio-state-sponsored-terrorism-exposed/

Not a reputable source. Is this the leftist Onion or what?

http://operation-gladio.net/taxonomy/term/380/all

I don't speak French and this probably has nothing to do with the subject.

http://nsnbc.me/2012/02/02/gladio-bin-laden-to-erdogan-belhadj-and-hamas-mossad%C2%B4s-and-nato%C2%B4s-dirty-underwear-2012/

Yugoslavia isn't even mentioned on the article.

http://www.ied.info/articles/american-airmen-finished-out-their-lives-in-soviet-prisons/now-it-was-yugoslavia%E2%80%99s-turn-to-be-destabilized

Not reputable.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/24-march-1999-remembering-the-nato-led-war-on-yugoslavia-kosovo-freedom-fighters-financed-by-organized-crime

This is pretty biased and the events cited happened during the civil war.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Yugoslavia/Yugoslavia_ShockTherapy.html

"Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order"

That's where I stopped reading.

http://www.tmcrew.org/news/nato/germany_usa.htm

Not a reputable source.

http://inquiringminds.cc/destabilizing-yugoslavia-oops-sorry-wrong-year-destabilising-syriasyria

Not a reputable source.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9905/24/kosovo.01/

This happened on Milosevic's government, so the West hasn't been sabotating Yugoslavia since Tito's reign. And I don't see how it is bad to destabilize a war criminal's government.

http://www.nspm.rs/nspm-in-english/24-march-1999-remembering-the-nato-led-war-on-yugoslavia.html

Not a reputable sourc, events happened during the civil war, yadda yadda...

For fuck's sake, stop wasting my time if you can't come up with anything legit.

So what is "Reputable" to you? I am very curious to know.

[Seitonjin]

Are you sure? I have three more liters left.

What of CIA missions in Iran, Chile, Honduras, et all? Technically filed under Western misguidance I'm sure.

Liters of rum? Slow down. Three liters of rum at once could be lethal for someone of your small Asian stature.

Uhmm....

Uhhhh...

Yeah, I'd say those were severe Western misguidance. I recognize it's the USA's fault for making Iran into what it is, but it's also the USA's fault for not having tried to normalize relations with Iran after they fucked it up. Yes, the US has done things, but it's unfair to say the "West" as a whole does it, as Canada usually has no part in these ridiculous things. Keyword: Usually.

I'm not that short nor am I a li-Oh wait.

:c

Canada spies on Brazil. Meanwhile, anti-Westerners have a field day.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

I am French. I just happen to love Syria like the other fellow countryman whom said quite famously, "All Men have two homelands, their's as well as Syria's".

That is surprising. I assumed you at least had some Syrian relatives.
I already have two homelands, being a citizen of Canada and Poland, so I cannot identify with your statement. :/

Its just an expression that person said out of love for the Syrians.

I amongst many others worldwide share this love for the Syrian nation.

You do not need Syrian blood to love Syria.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Guys, Souriya is right. Clearly the Balkans, known for their passionate hatred of their fellow neighbours for most of their history, were clearly brainwashed/forced into hating each other and thus collapsing Yugoslavia.

This of course means that the various Balkan peoples simply cannot be trusted to take care of themselves, as they continuously allow themselves to be bullied into murdering each other over ethnicity and the like.

Thus I propose handing the entirety of the Balkans to its rightful owner: the Ottomans.

[Seitonjin]

Guys, Souriya is right. Clearly the Balkans, known for their passionate hatred of their fellow neighbours for most of their history, were clearly brainwashed/forced into hating each other and thus collapsing Yugoslavia.

This of course means that the various Balkan peoples simply cannot be trusted to take care of themselves, as they continuously allow themselves to be bullied into murdering each other over ethnicity and the like.

Thus I propose handing the entirety of the Balkans to its rightful owner: the Ottomans.

ban kebab

[Britannia and Hiberniam]

Thus I propose handing the entirety of the Balkans to its rightful owner: the Ottomans.

Ironically, the Balkans were considerable more stable in the earlier Ottoman Empire.

[Vicswampia]

So what is "Reputable" to you? I am very curious to know.

Something that's not utter crap taken from dumb blogs, preferentially from a prestiged unbiased news source.

[Vestr-Norig]

- Western Norway to break free from Norwegian rule.
- The Centre Party to become the major political party in Norway (or Western Norway), forming a government on their own.

Why would you want that?

I believe that Western Norway; it's people, culture and language would be better of without Norway (that being the capital of Norway) being in charge, which drains resources from the west, spends it on themselves, yet proceeds to neglect the needs of the West. The interest of Western Norway would be best be represented by the people of Western Norway themselves, not Oslo.