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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:28 pm

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Sibirsky wrote:Do you realize that German cars are cheaper in the US than Germany?

That doesn't explain at all why you are paying $US90000 for an Audi or a Mercedes. My sister bought a new Audi a month ago. One of their "upper scale" types. She paid nowhere near $US90000. And never would anyone have said she had bought a luxury car. Because of those you mentioned, barely even BMW counts as a luxury car, some models eking it over that threshold. So you people have some very, very weird perspectives... well, not "you people". You.


Please specify the model. An A3 has very little in common with the R8 V10. Especially the price.
Audi, BMW and Mercedes are all regarded as luxury brands. Sure, a 135i is not a luxury car. The brand is though.

$90k is the upper range. The R8, S8, A8, 750iL, S550, most of the AMGs etc.
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Postby Joannalandia » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:29 pm

Well, this is turning into a flame war. *Washes hands of the whole mess as a discussion about domestic and foreign goods degenerates into a debate regarding the relative intelligence of those involved.*
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Postby Fassitude » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:32 pm

Sibirsky wrote:Please specify the mode. An A3 has very little in common with the R8 V10. Especially the price.

It was actually an A8, looking at the pic she sent. She paid around 500 000 SEK.
Audi, BMW and Mercedes are all regarded as luxury brands. Sure, a 135i is not a luxury car. The brand is though.

No wonder you people think the USA makes quality cars, if those qualify as luxury over there.

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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:34 pm

The only thing I would want to buy because it is made near me is produce. Mostly because it is of a higher quality/taste better/and is even less expensive at the farmers market. Also I like to support mom and pop farms not the huge industry farms you find across America (don't even get me started on walmart). Other than that I think that trying to convince people to buy stuff made in their country hurts the freemarket.
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Postby Few Worries » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:34 pm

Fassitude wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Please specify the mode. An A3 has very little in common with the R8 V10. Especially the price.

It was actually an A8, looking at the pic she sent. She paid around 500 000 SEK.
That's very close to the same price in the United States. (Assuming I did the conversion right, that's around $72k USD.) The A8 in the US is around $74k.

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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:35 pm

Audi has 1 model with a base price above $90k in the US. Out of 14.
BMW has 2 out of 21.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:38 pm

Fassitude wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Please specify the mode. An A3 has very little in common with the R8 V10. Especially the price.

It was actually an A8, looking at the pic she sent. She paid around 500 000 SEK.
Audi, BMW and Mercedes are all regarded as luxury brands. Sure, a 135i is not a luxury car. The brand is though.

No wonder you people think the USA makes quality cars, if those qualify as luxury over there.


Did you somehow missed the highlighted part?

500k SEK is $72k with some change. The A8 starts at $74k in the US.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:44 pm

Mercedes has 4 models that start above $90k out of 15.
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Postby Fassitude » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:44 pm

Sibirsky wrote:Did you somehow missed the highlighted part?

How that changes your claims that those brands are luxury is the only thing one can miss.
500k SEK is $72k with some change. The A8 starts at $74k in the US.

Hers didn't start at 500k.

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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:46 pm

Fassitude wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Did you somehow missed the highlighted part?

How that changes your claims that those brands are luxury is the only thing one can miss.
500k SEK is $72k with some change. The A8 starts at $74k in the US.

Hers didn't start at 500k.


I think you are confusing brands and models. BMW is a brand. 135i is a model. BMW is a luxury brand.
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Postby Fassitude » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:48 pm

Sibirsky wrote:I think you are confusing brands and models. BMW is a brand. 135i is a model. BMW is a luxury brand.

To you lot, it would seem. Bizarro world.

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Postby Port Arcana » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:01 pm

I could hardly care less where something is made. If it's practical and at a good price, then I buy it.

With the exception of things that reflect my lifestyle. I tend to boycott mainstream American culture (ex: abercrumbys, hummers, beer, football, guns) and prefer the European/international alternatives (ex: Armani, Prius, tea, cricket, muskets, etc).

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Postby Fassitude » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:08 pm

Port Arcana wrote:I could hardly care less where something is made.

If you can care less means that you do care. Even if hardly.
/hates that expression
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:14 pm

I buy whatever is best, at the price I prefer. We live in a global economy, get used to it.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:30 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:I buy whatever is best, at the price I prefer. We live in a global economy, get used to it.


Indeed. That and because I don't want to live on doughnuts and peanut butter. :roll:
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:33 pm

SD_Film Artists wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I buy whatever is best, at the price I prefer. We live in a global economy, get used to it.


Indeed. That and because I don't want to live on doughnuts and peanut butter. :roll:


Why ever not?
There's so many varieties.
Doughnuts filled with strawberry jam, that's part of your 5-a-day.

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Postby Andaluciae » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:39 pm

Fassitude wrote:
Port Arcana wrote:I could hardly care less where something is made.

If you can care less means that you do care. Even if hardly.
/hates that expression


The correct expression is "I couldn't care less", but people have shortened it as a colloquialism to something meaning quite the opposite.

More broadly, it's an honest statement, because if you are willing to comment about how little you care about something, then you certainly do care about the topic, at least a little.
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:41 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I buy whatever is best, at the price I prefer. We live in a global economy, get used to it.


Indeed. That and because I don't want to live on doughnuts and peanut butter. :roll:


Why ever not?
There's so many varieties.
Doughnuts filled with strawberry jam, that's part of your 5-a-day.

And actual peanut butter is good stuff (not the peanuts + HFCS + palm oil + salt + corn syrup + brown sugar, etc)
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:44 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I buy whatever is best, at the price I prefer. We live in a global economy, get used to it.


Indeed. That and because I don't want to live on doughnuts and peanut butter. :roll:


Why ever not?
There's so many varieties.
Doughnuts filled with strawberry jam, that's part of your 5-a-day.


Well I could assimulate the jam doughnut into a peanut butter and jam sandwitch/bun, I could live on that. :)
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Postby Andaluciae » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:45 pm

Fassitude wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:I think you are confusing brands and models. BMW is a brand. 135i is a model. BMW is a luxury brand.

To you lot, it would seem. Bizarro world.


It's all about how the vehicles are marketed, Fass, not some intrinic virtue of the vehicles as "luxury".
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:47 pm

SD_Film Artists wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I buy whatever is best, at the price I prefer. We live in a global economy, get used to it.


Indeed. That and because I don't want to live on doughnuts and peanut butter. :roll:


Why ever not?
There's so many varieties.
Doughnuts filled with strawberry jam, that's part of your 5-a-day.


Well I could assimulate the jam doughnut into a peanut butter and jam sandwitch/bun, I could live on that. :)

No, you can't do that. Peanut Butter + jam ruins both the peanut butter and the jam! Fools!
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Postby Unidos » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:51 pm

Fassitude wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Fixed

fWIW. How pathetic. Really. How pathetic. Really, really pathetic. It's like... Carrot Top. Blind. And haven't learnt Braille. So you can't read the thread. And follow along in the discussion. .


FWiW I happen to -be- blind, lack the fingertip sensitivity to read Braille. With adaptive tech I can -read- this thread jsut fine, thank you very much. 70 percent of blind people in the US who are of working age are unemployed or underemployed. ( US Department of Labor/JOB stats) This in the post ADA era. Largely due to stereotyped attitudes about blindness. Statments that tend to encourage thsoe stereotypes don't help.

I know I'm not the intended recipient. but if you are going to go trolling I'd appreciate it if you left misinformed statements about blind people out of it. Fair enough?

Not to mention the association with Carrot Top :shock:

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Postby Maurepas » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:53 pm

If youre able to accomplish it, go for broke I say...I do try to buy local above all else, if I can get it from a local store/brand I always go there first...

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Postby Andaluciae » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:56 pm

Unidos wrote:
Fassitude wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Fixed

fWIW. How pathetic. Really. How pathetic. Really, really pathetic. It's like... Carrot Top. Blind. And haven't learnt Braille. So you can't read the thread. And follow along in the discussion. .


FWiW I happen to -be- blind, lack the fingertip sensitivity to read Braille. With adaptive tech I can -read- this thread jsut fine, thank you very much. 70 percent of blind people in the US who are of working age are unemployed or underemployed. ( US Department of Labor/JOB stats) This in the post ADA era. Largely due to stereotyped attitudes about blindness. Statments that tend to encourage thsoe stereotypes don't help.

I know I'm not the intended recipient. but if you are going to go trolling I'd appreciate it if you left misinformed statements about blind people out of it. Fair enough?

Not to mention the association with Carrot Top :shock:

I do make some typos and I'm still getting up to speed on this screen reader software, So please forgive my typos as I forgive the typos of others.

We now return you to normal NSG bloodletting and gouging, already in progress. :D


It's Fass buddy. He is perfectly fine with offending other people, but gets all in a huff when someone offends him.
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Postby Fassitude » Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:01 pm

Andaluciae wrote:It's all about how the vehicles are marketed, Fass, not some intrinic virtue of the vehicles as "luxury".

It's all about whom they are marketed to.

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