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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:12 am

Is anyone else involved in this? For some time now, I've been refusing to purchase anything that has not been stamped with "Made in U.S.A." on the bottom. I absolutely refuse to support any corporation that does not put it's nation first and it's dollar second. I always check the barcode for the "Made in China" stamp, so I can put it back and find the american equivalent. This does mean, if you do not know, that I also boycott Ford Motor Company, Wal-Mart, and any other stores that refuse to stock American-made products.

I realize that American-Made products are dwindling because corporations run by useless bastards hire malaysian children for 15 cents a day to work in sweatshops 140 hours a week so they can sell me a $10 blender that falls apart in three months. Even so, I still have enough respect for the american working class to refuse to support Long-Wang and his family of 18 in the Peoples' Republic of China over the masses of unemployed people and people with ever lowering job security who exist down the street from me, in the United States of America.

What I am asking is, how many of you feel it imperative that you buy only products produced in the United States of America, whenever you are not being intentionally decieved about a product's origin?
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Postby Andaluciae » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:15 am

Innovative ways to wreck the global economy and give us the thirties (and all the resultantjoy-fun) all over again.
FreeAgency wrote:Shellfish eating used to be restricted to dens of sin such as Red Lobster and Long John Silvers, but now days I cannot even take my children to a public restaurant anymore (even the supposedly "family friendly ones") without risking their having to watch some deranged individual flaunting his sin...

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Postby Fassitude » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:17 am

Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:What I am asking is, how many of you feel it imperative that you buy only products produced in the United States of America, whenever you are not being intentionally decieved about a product's origin?

I would never buy a USA-made product. For you see, I care about quality and workmanship in the things I purchase.

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Postby Nadkor » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:17 am

Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:What I am asking is, how many of you feel it imperative that you buy only products produced in the United States of America, whenever you are not being intentionally decieved about a product's origin?


Why on earth would I want to do that?
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Postby Doitzel » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:19 am

Hey, it worked for Napoleon.
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Postby JuNii » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:19 am

Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:What I am asking is, how many of you feel it imperative that you buy only products produced in the United States of America, whenever you are not being intentionally decieved about a product's origin?


I used to think that. but I no longer do. why? because I view "Buy American" to be the same as "Vote [party]" if the US Auto Industry actually stopped spouting the "buy Domestic" and actually studied why foreign cars are doing better, then they wouldn't NEED a bail out. If the Product is GOOD, then I'll buy it.

Here in Hawaii, they are trying to do the same thing. "Buy Local". I say, make good stuff then I'll buy local.
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Postby Orthodox Gnosticism » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:19 am

What's made in USA these days? I honestly haven't seen that on any products in years. Maybe I haven't looked that hard, but I haven't seen any product with that on it, since the early 00's.
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Postby Eofaerwic » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:27 am

Only with food, but that's mostly in relation to freshness and carbon footprint. Hell, I prefer to buy locally produced food even (I love my local farmers market).

If I was to choose between products of similar quality and price, I may buy 'British' over origins, but that situation very rarely comes up. a) because we make very little here anymore, and b) because frankly the best choice is usually determined on quality and/or price well before origin comes into play. If a country makes good products they shouldn't need to rely on patriotism to survive.
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Postby Andaluciae » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:28 am

Orthodox Gnosticism wrote:What's made in USA these days? I honestly haven't seen that on any products in years. Maybe I haven't looked that hard, but I haven't seen any product with that on it, since the early 00's.


Usually big, expensive, high value-added stuff. Airplanes, machine tools, construction equipment, robotics, automobiles, computer chips, military hardware, y'know. Let the developing world build the cheap crap that does not (has never and will never) pay well because it's margins are so damn tiny. Further, information and communication technologies which are the real drivers of the 21st century economy are big here. I'd say we're far better off than being locked in a perpetual industrial revolution.

*Oh, we do a shit ton of food here, that too.
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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:28 am

I know what you mean, it's getting harder and harder to find them, but they exist. If you can spend your money to support a chinese man, why wouldn't you want to get your own economy on track as opposed to someone else's.

You can complain about the global economy, but last I checked the current system has proven it is wrecked, and nobody has been buying domestic for the past decade or two.
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Postby Fassitude » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:30 am

Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:I know what you mean, it's getting harder and harder to find them, but they exist. If you can spend your money to support a chinese man, why wouldn't you want to get your own economy on track as opposed to someone else's.

You clearly have no idea about how the economy works if you think that "supporting" that Chinese man doesn't improve the economy...

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:32 am

I don't so much care about where something I purchase was manufactured as by whom. I prefer to buy merchandise manufactured by someone named Bruce or Tim. I've had good results from such goods. I tend to avoid goods manufactured by Freds and Garys. Crap. Pure crap. *nod*
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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:33 am

Yet going to wal-mart to help them make record profits while keeping their workers perpetually on part-time without making enough money to live on, and at the same time destroying local business by going far lower than any small business can possible afford does support our economy? I can't see how, no matter what way I look at it.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:39 am

Fassitude wrote:
Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:What I am asking is, how many of you feel it imperative that you buy only products produced in the United States of America, whenever you are not being intentionally decieved about a product's origin?

I would never buy a USA-made product. For you see, I care about quality and workmanship in the things I purchase.

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Postby Fassitude » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:41 am

Sibirsky wrote:Yep, Chinese products are known to be better

When compared to USA-made products? Yes, yes they are indeed known to be better. Not much of a feat, but that's the way it is.

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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:42 am

Andaluciae wrote:
Orthodox Gnosticism wrote:What's made in USA these days? I honestly haven't seen that on any products in years. Maybe I haven't looked that hard, but I haven't seen any product with that on it, since the early 00's.


Usually big, expensive, high value-added stuff. Airplanes, machine tools, construction equipment, robotics, automobiles, computer chips, military hardware, y'know. Let the developing world build the cheap crap that does not (has never and will never) pay well because it's margins are so damn tiny. Further, information and communication technologies which are the real drivers of the 21st century economy are big here. I'd say we're far better off than being locked in a perpetual industrial revolution.

*Oh, we do a shit ton of food here, that too.


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Why? Andaluciae explains perfectly.
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Postby Andaluciae » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:46 am

Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:Yet going to wal-mart to help them make record profits while keeping their workers perpetually on part-time without making enough money to live on, and at the same time destroying local business by going far lower than any small business can possible afford does support our economy? I can't see how, no matter what way I look at it.


WalMart is the reason when Maytag consolidated it's subsidiaries management structures my dear ol' Dad kept his job. He'd built the relationships with the folks who managed the WalMart distribution system that were required to keep the flow of Hoover Vacuums to stores. While I rarely shop at WalMart (the prices are rarely the best available, especially if you're willing to comparison shop) I have a hard time seeing them as some sort of evil empire.
FreeAgency wrote:Shellfish eating used to be restricted to dens of sin such as Red Lobster and Long John Silvers, but now days I cannot even take my children to a public restaurant anymore (even the supposedly "family friendly ones") without risking their having to watch some deranged individual flaunting his sin...

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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:46 am

Fassitude wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Yep, Chinese products are known to be better

When compared to USA-made products? Yes, yes they are indeed known to be better. Not much of a feat, but that's the way it is.


Like lead paint in toys. What you are saying is a pure lie. If Chinese products are known to be better, it is only to you.
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Postby Lord-General Drache » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:48 am

Fassitude wrote:
Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:What I am asking is, how many of you feel it imperative that you buy only products produced in the United States of America, whenever you are not being intentionally decieved about a product's origin?

I would never buy a USA-made product. For you see, I care about quality and workmanship in the things I purchase.


Pretty much my sentiments.


You do realize, Mr. OP, that parts can be made anywhere in the world, shipped to the US, assembled here and be claimed to have been made in the US, right? No? Oh dear.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:50 am

JuNii wrote:
Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:What I am asking is, how many of you feel it imperative that you buy only products produced in the United States of America, whenever you are not being intentionally decieved about a product's origin?


I used to think that. but I no longer do. why? because I view "Buy American" to be the same as "Vote [party]" if the US Auto Industry actually stopped spouting the "buy Domestic" and actually studied why foreign cars are doing better, then they wouldn't NEED a bail out. If the Product is GOOD, then I'll buy it.

Here in Hawaii, they are trying to do the same thing. "Buy Local". I say, make good stuff then I'll buy local.


:clap: This. I buy local/national/made by people just like me only if all else is equal, which rarely happens.
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Postby Andaluciae » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:50 am

Sibirsky wrote:
Fassitude wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Yep, Chinese products are known to be better

When compared to USA-made products? Yes, yes they are indeed known to be better. Not much of a feat, but that's the way it is.


Like lead paint in toys. What you are saying is a pure lie. If Chinese products are known to be better, it is only to you.


Fass is trolling, I vote we let him be.
FreeAgency wrote:Shellfish eating used to be restricted to dens of sin such as Red Lobster and Long John Silvers, but now days I cannot even take my children to a public restaurant anymore (even the supposedly "family friendly ones") without risking their having to watch some deranged individual flaunting his sin...

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Postby Fassitude » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:52 am

Sibirsky wrote:Like lead paint in toys.

And it would probably be uranium had the toys been made in the USA.
What you are saying is a pure lie. If Chinese products are known to be better, it is only to you.

No, the World. "Made in the USA" = "crap" globally. Yes, even when compared to things made in China. For some reason you seem unaware of that. Well, now you are apprised.

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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:56 am

I am on my 6th car. 4 of them were manufactured by American manufacturers. 3 of them were made in the US for certain. The other may have been made in Mexico, but I am betting on US as US based plants outnumber the Mexican plant 5-1 for that model. I no longer have the VIN to verify. The other two were German, manufactured in Germany. The American cars were not as nice (except one), but more reliable.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:59 am

Fassitude wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Like lead paint in toys.

And it would probably be uranium had the toys been made in the USA.
What you are saying is a pure lie. If Chinese products are known to be better, it is only to you.

No, the World. "Made in the USA" = "crap" globally. Yes, even when compared to things made in China. For some reason you seem unaware of that. Well, now you are apprised.

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Postby Abdju » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:59 am

Andaluciae wrote:
Orthodox Gnosticism wrote:What's made in USA these days? I honestly haven't seen that on any products in years. Maybe I haven't looked that hard, but I haven't seen any product with that on it, since the early 00's.


Usually big, expensive, high value-added stuff. Airplanes, machine tools, construction equipment, robotics, automobiles, computer chips, military hardware, y'know. Let the developing world build the cheap crap that does not (has never and will never) pay well because it's margins are so damn tiny. Further, information and communication technologies which are the real drivers of the 21st century economy are big here. I'd say we're far better off than being locked in a perpetual industrial revolution.

*Oh, we do a shit ton of food here, that too.


Actually, a whole load of sweatshop goods are "MADE IN USA". US includes some very interesting places with very interesting labour practices.

Most electronic components, however, are made in the ASEAN region, regardless of the brand name.

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