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Is the policy enacted by the teacher suitable for limiting population growth?

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Child limit policies for tommorow?

Postby Autocratic Zhixiashi » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:29 pm

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/ ... orders-him
A 10-year-old Chinese boy jumped 30 floors to his death after failing to write a self-criticism letter demanded by his teacher, state media reported on Thursday.

The fifth-grade primary school student had been ordered to write a 1,000-character apology by his teacher for talking in class, China National Radio (CNR) reported on its website, citing a neighbour.

The educator allegedly told him to jump out of a building after he failed to complete the task, the report quoted relatives and the neighbour as saying.

"Teacher, I can't do it," was found written in one of his textbooks, CNR said. "I flinched several times when I tried to jump from the building."

The child smashed into a parked car beneath the flat where his family live, the West China City News reported.

His furious relatives posted a banner outside the school in the southwestern city of Chengdu reading: "The teacher forced our kid to jump off the building," pictures showed Thursday.

"The police investigation is still under way," said an official of Jinjiang district, where the incident happened, declining to comment further.

Strict discipline is an essential part of China's education system and culture, and tradition demands deference to authority, putting children under pressure to obey instructions.

The news provoked sadness and sympathy on Sina Weibo, a Chinese equivalent of Twitter.

"How can a guy like this be a teacher?" wrote one poster. "Who gave him the right to speak in this way? Why does the student have this kind of blind obedience?"

The boy's school said Thursday on its verified account that the child and some of his classmates had been ordered to write reviews of their behaviour after they disturbed a speaking competition.

He died "by accident", it said.
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:57 pm

Yeah, um, what are we supposed to discuss?

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Postby Aeken » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:59 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Yeah, um, what are we supposed to discuss?

I have no idea either.

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Postby Autocratic Zhixiashi » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:01 pm

You're supposed to discuss whether the policy enacted by the teacher is suitable for limiting population growth.

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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:01 pm

I think we are supposed to discuss blind devotion to authority.

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Postby Cameroi » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:02 pm

put something in the water (or air) to statistically lower (all) human fertility (across the board, without favor or bias of any kind).

(preferably something self sustaining, like an engineered bio-factor)
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Postby Autocratic Zhixiashi » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:04 pm

Cameroi wrote:put something in the water (or air) to statistically lower (all) human fertility (across the board, without favor or bias of any kind).

If you can enact that, I think we're all screwed. No one should be able to put anything in the water, in fact it'd be better to decentralize water purification if possible.

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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:04 pm

Autocratic Zhixiashi wrote:You're supposed to discuss whether the policy enacted by the teacher is suitable for limiting population growth.


... Wow.

That's what you want to talk about from the news article? Really?

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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:05 pm

Autocratic Zhixiashi wrote:
Cameroi wrote:put something in the water (or air) to statistically lower (all) human fertility (across the board, without favor or bias of any kind).

If you can enact that, I think we're all screwed. No one should be able to put anything in the water, in fact it'd be better to decentralize water purification if possible.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH no.

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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:05 pm

Firstly, This is sickening, the teacher should be punished. Secondly, this is an extremely improper, cruel, messy, and inhumane way to limit population growth. Encouraging less child and safe sex reduce population growth. Thirdly, we don't need any authoritarian child limit policies.
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Postby Alyekra » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:06 pm

It's disgusting that there are those who are so willing to mess with people's lives with policies like these. Overpopulation can be fixed with the free market. All the other solutions I've heard are evil.
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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:06 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Autocratic Zhixiashi wrote:You're supposed to discuss whether the policy enacted by the teacher is suitable for limiting population growth.


... Wow.

That's what you want to talk about from the news article? Really?

Well...that certainly isn't what I'd talk about it.


But, I'll bite.

No, bad idea.

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Postby Autocratic Zhixiashi » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:06 pm

Pandeeria wrote:Firstly, This is sickening, the teacher should be punished.

Should he jump out the building?

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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:09 pm

Autocratic Zhixiashi wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:Firstly, This is sickening, the teacher should be punished.

Should he jump out the building?


Of course not. Wether it's jail time, a heavy fine, or something legally humane and not barbaric. Having suicide be a punishment for something as trivial as an assignment is archaic, the teacher should feel bad and be punished.
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In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Trollgaard » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:10 pm

Cameroi wrote:put something in the water (or air) to statistically lower (all) human fertility (across the board, without favor or bias of any kind).

(preferably something self sustaining, like an engineered bio-factor)


Fuck. NO.

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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:11 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Cameroi wrote:put something in the water (or air) to statistically lower (all) human fertility (across the board, without favor or bias of any kind).

(preferably something self sustaining, like an engineered bio-factor)


Fuck. NO.


Yeah, given that physics exists, this is how you render the entire human race sterile.
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:11 pm

Alyekra wrote:It's disgusting that there are those who are so willing to mess with people's lives with policies like these. Overpopulation can be fixed with the free market. All the other solutions I've heard are evil.


What.

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Postby Aeken » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:12 pm

It's ridiculous to think that making a child jump out of a building is promoting population limits.

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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:12 pm

Also, FYI this is not a child limit policy. This is just a teacher being a horrible person, but it's not like the Chinese Government demanded the student commit suicide for being an illegal child.
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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:13 pm

Alyekra wrote:It's disgusting that there are those who are so willing to mess with people's lives with policies like these. Overpopulation can be fixed with the free market. All the other solutions I've heard are evil.


I don't think that free market means what you think it means.
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Postby Autocratic Zhixiashi » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:13 pm

Pandeeria wrote:Of course not. Wether it's jail time, a heavy fine, or something legally humane and not barbaric. Having suicide be a punishment for something as trivial as an assignment is archaic, the teacher should feel bad and be punished.

I'd have him put to death humanely if I didn't think telling (non-suicidal) people to jump out of buildings just on your say-so for not doing school assignment adequately was such a great idea. If they do it, it belongs in Darwin awards.
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Postby Alyekra » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:17 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Alyekra wrote:It's disgusting that there are those who are so willing to mess with people's lives with policies like these. Overpopulation can be fixed with the free market. All the other solutions I've heard are evil.


What.


If you could convince shareholders that you could solve world hunger or provide adequate homes for everyone on earth or invent an energy source that could power everything, there would be investors lining up around the block to throw money at you.
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Autocratic Zhixiashi wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:Of course not. Wether it's jail time, a heavy fine, or something legally humane and not barbaric. Having suicide be a punishment for something as trivial as an assignment is archaic, the teacher should feel bad and be punished.

I'd have him put to death humanely if I didn't think telling (non-suicidal) people to jump out of buildings just on your say-so for not doing school assignment adequately was such a great idea. If they do it, it belongs in Darwin awards.

Wait...what?
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Postby Autocratic Zhixiashi » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:20 pm

Alyekra wrote:If you could convince shareholders that you could solve world hunger or provide adequate homes for everyone on earth or invent an energy source that could power everything, there would be investors lining up around the block to throw money at you.

Nah. Wouldn't be profitable for very long.

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Postby Autocratic Zhixiashi » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:21 pm

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:Wait...what?

With the right Chinese upbringing perhaps we can convince everyone to jump out of buildings. Wouldn't that take care of population problems?

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