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What Party will win in the next Federal Election?

Conservative Party
30
33%
Liberal Party
34
37%
NDP
24
26%
Other
3
3%
 
Total votes : 91

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Transoxthraxia
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:37 pm

Beta Test wrote:New Democrats will win. They will ride in on Jack Layton's legacy but may form a minority government with the Liberals.

haha
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NorthEast Alliance
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Postby NorthEast Alliance » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:37 pm

United Federation of Canada wrote:
Thurask wrote:This probably isn't what he's thinking about, but from what I know of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, not much good can come out of it. Especially since Harper loves keeping important things concealed until they're ready to be ratified.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/10/04 ... 39357.html


No..... I was referring to the new North American security perimeter. Last time I checked my affairs are not the business of the NSA, which they will be if this deal goes through.


So edgy, the same argument " lulz guez the NSA is spying on us this is totally a new thing" Your blatant conspiracy theories are at best laughable and at worst scary.
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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:37 pm

"And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you — where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?"

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Seitonjin
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:37 pm

NorthEast Alliance wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:Fixed your quote there.

Anyways, Liberals are okay... But the ones in Ontario fucked us over big time. As a student, I was not impressed with stupid McGuinty.


1.1 billion dollars wasted, I still can not believe it.

I know.

They made bloody cuts to the education system here. Who the fuck does that? But it could've been worse. I mean, Ontario's Conservatives aren't favorable.
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Beta Test
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:38 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Beta Test wrote:New Democrats will win. They will ride in on Jack Layton's legacy but may form a minority government with the Liberals.

haha

I'm guessing your of the persuasion the Conservatives will retain government?
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NorthEast Alliance
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Postby NorthEast Alliance » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:38 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
NorthEast Alliance wrote:
1.1 billion dollars wasted, I still can not believe it.

It wasn't even your money, how do you think we feel?


Oh I know I have several friends in Ontario and they are pissed off. They want action right now.
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Postby Thurask » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:39 pm

Beta Test wrote:New Democrats will win. They will ride in on Jack Layton's legacy but may form a minority government with the Liberals.

Unless Harper can pull another prorogation magic trick, which he probably would once the word "coalition" gets dropped.
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:40 pm

Thurask wrote:
Beta Test wrote:New Democrats will win. They will ride in on Jack Layton's legacy but may form a minority government with the Liberals.

Unless Harper can pull another prorogation magic trick, which he probably would once the word "coalition" gets dropped.

Did Canada have a bad experience with the last coalition government?
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Oneracon
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Postby Oneracon » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:41 pm

NorthEast Alliance wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:It wasn't even your money, how do you think we feel?


Oh I know I have several friends in Ontario and they are pissed off. They want action right now.


Yeah well, Wynne is doing a far better job than that clown Tim Hudak would be doing.
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Thurask
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Postby Thurask » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:42 pm

Beta Test wrote:
Thurask wrote:Unless Harper can pull another prorogation magic trick, which he probably would once the word "coalition" gets dropped.

Did Canada have a bad experience with the last coalition government?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008–2009_Canadian_parliamentary_dispute
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Postby United Federation of Canada » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:42 pm

Beta Test wrote:
Thurask wrote:Unless Harper can pull another prorogation magic trick, which he probably would once the word "coalition" gets dropped.

Did Canada have a bad experience with the last coalition government?


No it was actually working. It just had stupid people, who couldn't even admit they agreed on anything, even when they did, in charge of it.

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Seitonjin
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:43 pm

Oneracon wrote:
NorthEast Alliance wrote:
Oh I know I have several friends in Ontario and they are pissed off. They want action right now.


Yeah well, Wynne is doing a far better job than that clown Tim Hudak would be doing.

True.

Still could be better.

We need NDP in power in Ontario. Or something. Bleh politics here is boring either way.
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Thurask
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Postby Thurask » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:43 pm

Seitonjin wrote:We need NDP in power in Ontario.

And I think Bob Rae put an end to that notion for the time being.
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NorthEast Alliance
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Postby NorthEast Alliance » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:43 pm

Oneracon wrote:
NorthEast Alliance wrote:
Oh I know I have several friends in Ontario and they are pissed off. They want action right now.


Yeah well, Wynne is doing a far better job than that clown Tim Hudak would be doing.


I would not go so far so say that, she is very inefficient as a leader and is basically a continuation of a long line of liberal screw-ups in Ontario.
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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:44 pm

Huntmar wrote:
Ainin wrote:An example of such craziness would be?

No, just in general. They want to abolish the Senate. I know that you and most others probably agree with that, but I don't for personal reasons I don't want to speak of. Mulcair is crazy too, I liked Layton. I think Trudeau is the best candidate right now.

It's not crazy to want to abolish an unelected and unaccountable upper house that is nothing but puppet storage for the government.
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Seitonjin
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:44 pm

Thurask wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:We need NDP in power in Ontario.

And I think Bob Rae put an end to that notion for the time being.

blub...

blub

blub

/drowns
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Ublia
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Postby Ublia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:44 pm

Oh joy another Harper thread. Let me just say this he's fried and if he does win again I'd ask for a recount.
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:45 pm

Ainin wrote:
Huntmar wrote:No, just in general. They want to abolish the Senate. I know that you and most others probably agree with that, but I don't for personal reasons I don't want to speak of. Mulcair is crazy too, I liked Layton. I think Trudeau is the best candidate right now.

It's not crazy to want to abolish an unelected and unaccountable upper house that is nothing but puppet storage for the government.

Agreed. Streamline the gov't please.
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NorthEast Alliance
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Postby NorthEast Alliance » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:47 pm

Remember their will be 338 seats in the next election to deal with Alberta's growing population. I am glad because Alberta is very important for Canada's economy.
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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:48 pm

Beta Test wrote:
Thurask wrote:Unless Harper can pull another prorogation magic trick, which he probably would once the word "coalition" gets dropped.

Did Canada have a bad experience with the last coalition government?

The opposition tried to make a coalition and bring down the government, but Harper just went lolnope and prorogued parliament.
"And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you — where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?"

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Postby NorthEast Alliance » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:49 pm

Ainin wrote:
Beta Test wrote:Did Canada have a bad experience with the last coalition government?

The opposition tried to make a coalition and bring down the government, but Harper just went lolnope and prorogued parliament.


It would not work in a thousand years the Liberals and the NDP are way to different to form a coalition together. If they did that in the next election the NDP would dominate the Liberals and the Liberals rising star Justin will object to that no doubt.
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Postby Greater Istanistan » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:50 pm

The Senate should be chopped.

As for all you gas plant people, it's like you deliberately blank out whenever I say "procurement scandal".

Does a jump in price from 9 billion when first promised to 45 billion now with minimal improvements and little benefit to Canadian industry mean nothing to you?
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Postby Thurask » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:50 pm

NorthEast Alliance wrote:Remember their will be 338 seats in the next election to deal with Alberta's growing population. I am glad because Alberta is very important for Canada's economy.

I think they'll still have the same percentage of overall seats, though.

National Post wrote:Provincial breakdown
• Ontario: Will have 121 seats and 36.12% of seats in House of Commons with 38.91% of Canadian population. Under current seat distribution, it has 106 seats or 34.75% of seats in the Commons.
• Quebec: Will have 78 seats representing 23.28% of seats in Commons with 23.22% of population. Under current seat distribution, it has 75 seats or 23.28% of seats in the Commons.
• British Columbia: Will have 42 seats and 12.54% per cent of seats in Commons with 13.31 per cent of population. Under current seat distribution, it has 36 seats or 11.8% of seats in the Commons.
• Alberta: Will have 34 seats and 10.15% per cent of seats in Commons with 11% of population. Under current seat distribution, it has 28 seats or 10.15% of seats in the Commons.
• Manitoba: Maintains 14 seats and 4.18% of seats in the Commons with 3.64% of population. Under current seat distribution, it had 4.59 % of seats in the Commons.
• Saskatchewan: Maintains 14 seats and 4.18% of seats in the Commons with 3.08% of population. Under current seat distribution, it had 4.59% of seats in the Commons.
• Nova Scotia: Maintains 11 seats and 3.28% of seats in the Commons with 2.75% of population. Under current seat distribution, it had 3.61% of seats in the Commons.
• New Brunswick: Maintains 10 seats and 2.99% of seats in the Commons with 2.2% of population. Under current seat distribution, it had 3.28% of seats in the Commons.
• Newfoundland and Labrador: Maintains seven seats and 2.09% of seats in the Commons with 1.49% of population. Under current seat distribution, it had 2.3% of seats in the Commons.
• Prince Edward Island: Maintains four seats and 1.19% of seats in the Commons with 0.42% of population. Under current seat distribution, it had 1.31% of seats in the Commons.
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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:50 pm

NorthEast Alliance wrote:Remember their will be 338 seats in the next election to deal with Alberta's growing population. I am glad because Alberta is very important for Canada's economy.

...for now.

Oil isn't an infinite resource.
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Seitonjin
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:51 pm

NorthEast Alliance wrote:
Ainin wrote:The opposition tried to make a coalition and bring down the government, but Harper just went lolnope and prorogued parliament.


It would not work in a thousand years the Liberals and the NDP are way to different to form a coalition together. If they did that in the next election the NDP would dominate the Liberals and the Liberals rising star Justin will object to that no doubt.

Bloody French Biscuit :p

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