Stephen Harper: Tory Convention in Calgary

[NorthEast Alliance]

But that won't happen, last time something like that was tried it backfired drastically.

Probably. I suspect it'll just end up being the NDP in gov, the Cons opposing everything, and the Libs caught in the middle. Not ideal, but I'm glad that the NDP will do well next election.

In the east coast and Quebec maybe, regions out of touch with real Canadian values.

[Hathradic States]

I don't really get the Harper hate, and, were I a Canuck, I would vote for him.

[Avenio]

To address both of you polls are unreliable at best and wrong at worst.

You know, the Romney re-election campaign and their comrades at Fox said as much during their campaign in 2012. Remind me again, how is President Romney doing?

Note: ignore polling data at one's peril, lest one wants to be another historical footnote like Romney. You wouldn't want Harper to turn out like him, would you?

[NorthEast Alliance]

To address both of you polls are unreliable at best and wrong at worst.

You know, the Romney re-election campaign and their comrades at Fox said as much during their campaign in 2012. Remind me again, how is President Romney doing?

Note: ignore polling data at one's peril, lest one wants to be another historical footnote like Romney. You wouldn't want Harper to turn out like him, would you?

I never said ignore poll data, just that do not say their fact all the time.

[Divair]

Probably. I suspect it'll just end up being the NDP in gov, the Cons opposing everything, and the Libs caught in the middle. Not ideal, but I'm glad that the NDP will do well next election.

In the east coast and Quebec maybe, regions out of touch with real Canadian values.

No True Scotsman? Boooring.

[Neo-Achaemenid Empire (Ancient)]

I don't really get the Harper hate, and, were I a Canuck, I would vote for him.

Corruption
Proroguing Parliament
Running deficits
Ignoring climate change
Muffling our scientists
Wasting money on a warplane that isn't that great
Trying to push a takeover deal despite security concerns raised by our intelligence agency

[Avenio]

I never said ignore poll data, just that do not say their fact all the time.

Then why are you dismissing polling data if you have no reason to suspect their inaccuracy?

[Neo-Achaemenid Empire (Ancient)]

Probably. I suspect it'll just end up being the NDP in gov, the Cons opposing everything, and the Libs caught in the middle. Not ideal, but I'm glad that the NDP will do well next election.

In the east coast and Quebec maybe, regions out of touch with real Canadian values.

The No True Scotsman fallacy.

Should claim that anyone who votes for Harper hates Canada and isn't a real Canadian, then? I mean, since you seem to want to take that road.

[Agritum]

I don't really get the Harper hate, and, were I a Canuck, I would vote for him.

He's basically Canadian Bush: interventionist, restricting freedom of press, made blacklists of "Government dissenters", tried to ban gay marriages, withdrew from the Kyoto Protocol and holds disturbing opinions on science.

That's just part of the things he did/is still doing.

[Hathradic States]

I don't really get the Harper hate, and, were I a Canuck, I would vote for him.

Corruption
Proroguing Parliament
Running deficits

The Libs and the NDP would be just as bad.

Ignoring climate change

Because it's not as big of a deal as people make it out to be, really. We are humans, for fuck's sake, we can adapt.

Muffling our scientists

How so?

Wasting money on a warplane that isn't that great

Libs and NDP would do the same.

Trying to push a takeover deal despite security concerns raised by our intelligence agency

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More information on this, bitte.

[Aggicificicerous]

To address both of you polls are unreliable at best and wrong at worst. The Conservatives are not corrupt at all, the senate issue is unfortunate but its not Harpers fault, most of the liberal senators are blocking more investigation. Center-Right politics is relevant now, and leftist bashing them calling them extremists is downright silly.

Right. The Conservatives aren't corrupt. They only cheat when it's election time.

[Hathradic States]

I don't really get the Harper hate, and, were I a Canuck, I would vote for him.

He's basically Canadian Bush: interventionist, restricting freedom of press, made blacklists of "Government dissenters", tried to ban gay marriages, withdrew from the Kyoto Protocol and holds disturbing opinions on science.

That's just part of the things he did/is still doing.

None of these scream "I should hate this man."

[NorthEast Alliance]

I never said ignore poll data, just that do not say their fact all the time.

Then why are you dismissing polling data if you have no reason to suspect their inaccuracy?

I do not trust poll data from the mainstream media, besides Fox News is biased toward pretend fiscal conservatives in the US so their irrelevant to this conversation. Once election day arrives we will say what real Canadians want for their country.

And theirs a good chance their choice will be Stephen Harper.

[Agritum]

He's basically Canadian Bush: interventionist, restricting freedom of press, made blacklists of "Government dissenters", tried to ban gay marriages, withdrew from the Kyoto Protocol and holds disturbing opinions on science.

That's just part of the things he did/is still doing.

None of these scream "I should hate this man."

Where's your libertarianism now?

[Minarchist States]

I don't really get the Harper hate, and, were I a Canuck, I would vote for him.

He's basically Canadian Bush: interventionist, restricting freedom of press, made blacklists of "Government dissenters", tried to ban gay marriages, withdrew from the Kyoto Protocol and holds disturbing opinions on science.

That's just part of the things he did/is still doing.

Holy fuq. I can't believe it but I'd vote liberal if I lived in Toronto. But since I now live America - your problem.

[Hathradic States]

None of these scream "I should hate this man."

Where's your libertarianism now?

Killed by twenty years of shitty leaders who are all the same.

[NorthEast Alliance]

I don't really get the Harper hate, and, were I a Canuck, I would vote for him.

He's basically Canadian Bush: interventionist, restricting freedom of press, made blacklists of "Government dissenters", tried to ban gay marriages, withdrew from the Kyoto Protocol and holds disturbing opinions on science.

That's just part of the things he did/is still doing.

Lies all of it, this is all from drama queen liberals thinking Canada is turning to a dictatorship. Can't you people just accept your time is over? Canada is blue now not red or orange.

[Forster Keys]

But that won't happen, last time something like that was tried it backfired drastically.

Probably. I suspect it'll just end up being the NDP in gov, the Cons opposing everything, and the Libs caught in the middle. Not ideal, but I'm glad that the NDP will do well next election.

The polls don't look too good for them at the moment.

[Saruhan]

To address both of you polls are unreliable at best and wrong at worst. The Conservatives are not corrupt at all, the senate issue is unfortunate but its not Harpers fault, most of the liberal senators are blocking more investigation. Center-Right politics is relevant now, and leftist bashing them calling them extremists is downright silly.

Right. The Conservatives aren't corrupt. They only cheat when it's election time.

And how is that cheating? Oh, I forget. The liberal party is the natural governing party, and anyone else who wins is a dirty child molester and cheated his way in

[Forster Keys]

He's basically Canadian Bush: interventionist, restricting freedom of press, made blacklists of "Government dissenters", tried to ban gay marriages, withdrew from the Kyoto Protocol and holds disturbing opinions on science.

That's just part of the things he did/is still doing.

Lies all of it, this is all from drama queen liberals thinking Canada is turning to a dictatorship. Can't you people just accept your time is over? Canada is blue now not red or orange.

Sure doesn't look like it.

[Divair]

None of these scream "I should hate this man."

Where's your libertarianism now?

You realize you're talking to Hath, right?

[Avenio]

I do not trust poll data from the mainstream media,

The media doesn't conduct polling, polling companies do. And polling companies get their reputation for conducting good, accurate polls, and thus get business. The media picks polls that it trusts to be accurate from experience, and thus selective pressure drives polling companies towards more accurate and better polling. Free market at work.

So why do you hate the free market? I mean, that's the only reason that I can think of that you would distrust a market mechanism that has no government involvement and strives towards accurate analysis.

[Divair]

Probably. I suspect it'll just end up being the NDP in gov, the Cons opposing everything, and the Libs caught in the middle. Not ideal, but I'm glad that the NDP will do well next election.

The polls don't look too good for them at the moment.

Tied with Libs and ahead by 1% with the Cons.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/one-poin ... -1.1521349

I'm going to guess that once the "OMG TRUDEAU!" hype is gone, some Libs will vote NDP. The election is still quite a bit off, so it could change completely, but I'd like to think it'll go well for those of us who like the NDP.

[Hathradic States]

To address both of you polls are unreliable at best and wrong at worst. The Conservatives are not corrupt at all, the senate issue is unfortunate but its not Harpers fault, most of the liberal senators are blocking more investigation. Center-Right politics is relevant now, and leftist bashing them calling them extremists is downright silly.

Right. The Conservatives aren't corrupt. They only cheat when it's election time.

They won. that really doesn't look like cheating to me.

[Agritum]

Where's your libertarianism now?

You realize you're talking to Hath, right?

Ah, yeah.

Guess I'll turn into an Anarcho-Fascist too, then.