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What Party will win in the next Federal Election?

Conservative Party
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33%
Liberal Party
34
37%
NDP
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26%
Other
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Total votes : 91

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Transoxthraxia
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:19 pm

United Federation of Canada wrote:
NorthEast Alliance wrote:
I know what reactionary means thank you, and I disagree with your opinion. He doesn't want Canada to return to some previous way of thinking nor is he an extremist. He simply wants what is best for Canada.


You mean kissing Obama's ass, and selling Canada to China? Thought so.

Actually, if you were educated, you would know that Harper refused Obama's demands for access to Canadian fresh water, but whatever, ignorance is bliss.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:20 pm

Thurask wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:There have been worse.

Who was that dude before McKenzie King?

RB Bennett and/or Arthur Meighen.

BENNETT

That dick.
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United Federation of Canada
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Postby United Federation of Canada » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:20 pm

NorthEast Alliance wrote:
United Federation of Canada wrote:At best the Conservatives will win yet another minority, and we will be back into the same old fucking cycle all over again. Trudeau is making headway, and should take most of eastern Canada. Unfortunately my man Jack died, and he was pretty much all the NDP had, since Mulcair is a fucking nutjob. It will come down to Alberta, and B.C., and we ALL know exactly how the retards in this province are going to vote. The Conservatives fucked this province over for 35 years, we had a chance to vote them out, and we give them another majority.

Doesn't matter anyhow. Foreign corporations, or China will own the country in 20 years anyway, at the rate the government is selling it off.


I live in Alberta so I demand an apology right now. Your opinion is invalid on so many levels its not even funny.


Tough... It is a true statement and you know it. Oh I forgot "ALL HAIL QUEEN REFORD!!!!". :bow:

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Postby NorthEast Alliance » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:21 pm

United Federation of Canada wrote:
NorthEast Alliance wrote:
I know what reactionary means thank you, and I disagree with your opinion. He doesn't want Canada to return to some previous way of thinking nor is he an extremist. He simply wants what is best for Canada.


You mean kissing Obama's ass, and selling Canada to China? Thought so.


Wow contradict yourself even more. I also want an apology for your comment about Alberta voters because I am Albertan.
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Postby United Federation of Canada » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:22 pm

NorthEast Alliance wrote:
United Federation of Canada wrote:
You mean kissing Obama's ass, and selling Canada to China? Thought so.


Wow contradict yourself even more. I also want an apology for your comment about Alberta voters because I am Albertan.


Nope... I am an Albertan too, and the statement stands.

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Postby New Nassrau » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:22 pm

I'm loving Canada under the conservatives!
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:23 pm

Seitonjin wrote:
Thurask wrote:RB Bennett and/or Arthur Meighen.

BENNETT

That dick.

Again, if I wasn't ignored on NSG, and people were less ignorant, they would know that Bennett was just an unlucky bastard. He actually sent his own money around to people during the great depression. But oh, right, he caused it. Of course, he was a conservative, how could he. Disgusting.

New Nassrau wrote:I'm loving Canada under the conservatives!

Thank you. <3
Last edited by Transoxthraxia on Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby United Federation of Canada » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:23 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:Actually, if you were educated, you would know that Harper refused Obama's demands for access to Canadian fresh water, but whatever, ignorance is bliss.


But negotiating a closed door deal that threatens our sovereignty is ok I suppose?

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Postby Huntmar » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:24 pm

Nah, have you seen the approval ratings of the Liberals? I know two people who support Harper; the rest of my friends are Liberals. So am I. The Tories are long overdue to leave and the NDP is batshit crazy (No offense Tom).
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Postby Luveria » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:24 pm

Ainin wrote:
NorthEast Alliance wrote:Stephen Harper is very moderate

Yeah, right. He's as reactionary as a Canadian politician gets.


You have never seen these fundies?

The Christian Heritage Party seeks to avoid a narrow platform, but rather implements the policy that "civil government is to ensure freedom and justice for a nation's citizens by upholding law and order in accordance with Biblical principles."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Heritage_Party_of_Canada

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Postby NorthEast Alliance » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:24 pm

United Federation of Canada wrote:
NorthEast Alliance wrote:
Wow contradict yourself even more. I also want an apology for your comment about Alberta voters because I am Albertan.


Nope... I am an Albertan too, and the statement stands.


You should be ashamed of yourself then. Look man I have no problem with your political beliefs I really don't but calling people "retarded" is not how you debate respectfully. And for the record I do not worship Redford at all in fact I dislike her immensely.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:24 pm

United Federation of Canada wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Actually, if you were educated, you would know that Harper refused Obama's demands for access to Canadian fresh water, but whatever, ignorance is bliss.


But negotiating a closed door deal that threatens our sovereignty is ok I suppose?

Can you source which deal this is?
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Ainin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:25 pm

Seitonjin wrote:
Ainin wrote:Yeah, right. He's as reactionary as a Canadian politician gets.

There have been worse.

Who was that dude before McKenzie King?

Rephrase: He's as reactionary as a modern and mainstream Canadian politician gets.
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Postby Greater Istanistan » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:25 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Greater Istanistan wrote:Although I don't agree with his politics, he's not an extremist.

However, I dislike:

-His authoritarian style

-The repeated scandals that seem to show violations of democracy and always lead up to his office

-His political murder of Nigel Wright to cover his own ass

-His partisan leanings

-The Economic Action Plan fund which he set up. It's a slush fund for payoffs.

-His "won't take no for an answer" speech in the USA

-His lack of basic politeness

-His annoying lack of etiquette or common decency in his campaigns



This, and more, irks me about Harper. And I hope he goes the way of Rob Ford. He's made several errors too many and I have no reason to trust anything he says.

Perhaps you are not aware that the Liberals were caught in the province of Ontario basically stealing 1.1 Billion dollars of taxpayer money. And yet, people seem more concerned about a mayor smoking crack than their own money.


Oh, the GAS PLANTS...

I see.

I am aware of that. It wasn't theft. It was political maneuvering. It looked rather dirty, but then again, it's a step below the full-out contempt for democracy that Harper has shown and will continue to show.

And besides, the procurement process for our fighter jets has cost us far more than that, has been entirely the Conservative government's fault, and has still availed us nothing on a product fulfilling a role we don't need. Helicopter and naval contracts go the same. So yes, I am concerned with my own money - which is being flushed down the toilet and cheerfully spat upon.

I said I want him to go the way of Ford. My mayor deserves impeachment, or at least electoral defeat.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:25 pm

Luveria wrote:
Ainin wrote:Yeah, right. He's as reactionary as a Canadian politician gets.


You have never seen these fundies?

The Christian Heritage Party seeks to avoid a narrow platform, but rather implements the policy that "civil government is to ensure freedom and justice for a nation's citizens by upholding law and order in accordance with Biblical principles."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Heritage_Party_of_Canada

I find it funny when people call Harper reactionary, because then we can look at the Quebec government at most points in history, especially during the Pre-WW2 era, and then compare it to his moderate-right point of view.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby New Nassrau » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:25 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:BENNETT

That dick.

Again, if I wasn't ignored on NSG, and people were less ignorant, they would know that Bennett was just an unlucky bastard. He actually sent his own money around to people during the great depression. But oh, right, he caused it. Of course, he was a conservative, how could he. Disgusting.

New Nassrau wrote:I'm loving Canada under the conservatives!

Thank you. <3

I mean, Canada is becoming a strong American ally, actually utilizing its international influence, actually doing stuff with its military
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Postby Ainin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:25 pm

Huntmar wrote:the NDP is batshit crazy (No offense Tom).

An example of such craziness would be?
"And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you — where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?"

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Postby Marcurix » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:25 pm

United Federation of Canada wrote:
NorthEast Alliance wrote:
Wow contradict yourself even more. I also want an apology for your comment about Alberta voters because I am Albertan.


Nope... I am an Albertan too, and the statement stands.


That doesn't make your statement any less false.
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Postby NorthEast Alliance » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:26 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
United Federation of Canada wrote:
But negotiating a closed door deal that threatens our sovereignty is ok I suppose?

Can you source which deal this is?


He does not have a source because one does not exist. Just typical irrational and short sighted tory hating.
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Postby United Federation of Canada » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:26 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
United Federation of Canada wrote:
But negotiating a closed door deal that threatens our sovereignty is ok I suppose?

Can you source which deal this is?


The border security agreement..... The one that would require Canadians to clear their departure with Canadian Customs, much like Americans have to do.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/police-sta ... ta/5321860
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:27 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:BENNETT

That dick.

Again, if I wasn't ignored on NSG, and people were less ignorant, they would know that Bennett was just an unlucky bastard. He actually sent his own money around to people during the great depression. But oh, right, he caused it. Of course, he was a conservative, how could he. Disgusting.

New Nassrau wrote:I'm loving Canada under the conservatives!

Thank you. <3

Not that he was a conservative or anything. Just flipped flopped in the end. Flippity floppity people are not trustworthy, though how far that statement goes isn't too far, whatever.

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:27 pm

Me and 10 million of my American friends are crossing the border to vote for Harper.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:27 pm

United Federation of Canada wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Can you source which deal this is?


The border security agreement..... The one that would require Canadians to clear their departure with Canadian Customs, much like Americans have to do.

So please, elaborate, you most-likely-12-year-old with a keyboard, spouting his parent's political views, how exactly does this threaten our sovereignty?

Also, find a more credible source than the laughably biased one you have now.
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Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:27 pm

Ainin wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:There have been worse.

Who was that dude before McKenzie King?

Rephrase: He's as reactionary as a modern and mainstream Canadian politician gets.

Thanks fo the clarification.
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Postby Luveria » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:28 pm

Ainin wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:There have been worse.

Who was that dude before McKenzie King?

Rephrase: He's as reactionary as a modern and mainstream Canadian politician gets.


You're wrong again. Harper isn't one of the anti-abortionist MPs in the Conservative Party.

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