Stephen Harper: Tory Convention in Calgary

[Arkiasis]

Stephen Harper is very moderate

Yeah, right. He's as reactionary as a Canadian politician gets.

Well he would be considered a moderate on the US Political Spectrum.

[Oneracon]

With any luck, Canada just needs two ideological wars, a baby boom, economic serendipity and a load of other fun things to drive it down America's dark, totalitarian, self-destructive path.
I am an American Liberal. Thus I, in full sarcasm, declare:

Go Stephen Harper and Canadian Conservatives 2013!!!!!

These things may depend on your definition of "liberal", given that the Conservative Party of Canada is roughly equivalent (actually slightly to the left according to some metrics) to the US Democratic Party.

[NorthEast Alliance]

Harper is not extreme at all, just some members of his party who were Reform Party members.

Edit: You have to remember the Conservative Party is a merger of the PC's and the Canadian Alliance, the old populist party out west formerly called the Reform Party. The Unite the Right movement united the two.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

With any luck, Canada just needs two ideological wars, a baby boom, economic serendipity and a load of other fun things to drive it down America's dark, totalitarian, self-destructive path.
I am an American Liberal. Thus I, in full sarcasm, declare:

Go Stephen Harper and Canadian Conservatives 2013!!!!!

These things may depend on your definition of "liberal", given that the Conservative Party of Canada is roughly equivalent (actually slightly to the left according to some metrics) to the US Democratic Party.

This is true, right? If it is...
I need to find out about Harper. And if it is, well, with full sleepiness I declare with trepidation

Go Stephen Harper and Canadian Conservatives 2013!!!!!

and

Go Justin Trudeau and Canadian Liberals 2013!!!!!

[Marcurix]

"I am not a crook!"

Harper is doing that right now with the EU and well China. But back in the Cold War era trade with our southern friends was vital. As for 2013 Libya would make a better trading partner. (Sorry Americans your economy sucks right now.)

Free trade is not always good trade. It'll hurt local industries, and we don't have much to export to Europe. It might help a couple business owners, but really Europe doesn't need our goods. We don't need theirs.

This is just because Harper wants a deal before the Americans and a couple votes.

Last I checked (Globe and Mail), this would cost the Ontario cheese ministry 8.7 billion or so.

Funny thing - that's about 8x the size of the Gas Plant thing.

Canada has raw resources, fertilizers, wood pulp, timber, crude petroleum, natural gas, aluminium and so forth. The EU as a whole is Canada's second largest export market (led by the UK) and third largest source of imports. So clearly both sides have something for each other.

The agreement hopes to boost this trade further.

[Marcurix]

Stephen Harper is Canada's equivalent to Bush, just without the whole war bit. He hates freedom and as such should have his taken away. I hope for anything but a Tory led government.

Source.

[Saint-Thor]

Conservatives are going to win.
Purely because most people who vote are conservative.

No. If he wins, it is due to that outaded disproportional representation system inherited from the British.

Although I don't agree with his politics, he's not an extremist.

However, I dislike:

-His authoritarian style

-The repeated scandals that seem to show violations of democracy and always lead up to his office

-His political murder of Nigel Wright to cover his own ass

-His partisan leanings

-The Economic Action Plan fund which he set up. It's a slush fund for payoffs.

-His "won't take no for an answer" speech in the USA

-His lack of basic politeness

-His annoying lack of etiquette or common decency in his campaigns



This, and more, irks me about Harper. And I hope he goes the way of Rob Ford. He's made several errors too many and I have no reason to trust anything he says.

You might add:
- The muzzling of our scientists

- Bill C-4

Why are people wanting a bloody French biscuit (Trudeau) who's reputation was built off a legacy of a greater man (Pierre) in power?

Trudeau speak with an English accent. Techically, he's one of yours. His FATHER, though, had no accent at all. Nice racial touch here btw.

You have never seen these fundies?

The Christian Heritage Party seeks to avoid a narrow platform, but rather implements the policy that "civil government is to ensure freedom and justice for a nation's citizens by upholding law and order in accordance with Biblical principles."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Heritage_Party_of_Canada

I find it funny when people call Harper reactionary, because then we can look at the Quebec government at most points in history, especially during the Pre-WW2 era, and then compare it to his moderate-right point of view.

Good point.

What? Him cozying up to leftist dictators and the NEP don't exactly make me think fondly of him.

Well he did keep Quebec in line.

Things like that remind me why I want to get the fuck out of this country.

Justin can ride on all the legacy he wants, his father was a terrible prime minister and that "legacy" will get him no where out west were he needs those votes.

This "terrible prime minister" happened to codify your rights and freedoms.

He had violated them severals times during the October Crisis. And he was applauded for it coast to coast.

[God Kefka]

I just googled Harper's face...

He doesn't look very trustworthy... if I could vote I wouldn't pick his party cause he looks dodgy...

[Arglorand]

Food for thought: the word "Tory" came from an Irish term meaning "bandit".

[Divair]

Anybody who claims the Tories have it in the bag are kidding themselves. It's going to be a very close race with three competitors. I'm hoping for the NDP to win, and I'll be doing my part to help them when I move in June 2015.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/one-poin ... -1.1521349

[Ainin]

This "terrible prime minister" happened to codify your rights and freedoms.

He had violated them severals times during the October Crisis. And he was applauded for it coast to coast.

He was allowed to do so under the War Measures Act by declaring a state of apprehended insurrection, which, note, was done at the request of the Governments of Montreal and Quebec, and not just Trudeau's unilateral decision.

The War Measures Act, by 1980, had been severely watered down, and subject to checks from Parliament, and enjoyed considerable support across the board, which your linked document actually states on page 13.

[Ainin]

I just googled Harper's face...

He doesn't look very trustworthy... if I could vote I wouldn't pick his party cause he looks dodgy...

Heh.

[The Serbian Empire]

I just googled Harper's face...

He doesn't look very trustworthy... if I could vote I wouldn't pick his party cause he looks dodgy...

It's almost as shifty as Richard Nixon's. Almost...

[Greater Istanistan]

And even Nixon didn't stoop so low as to use his wife's kittens to boost his appeal.

[The Serbian Empire]

And even Nixon didn't stoop so low as to use his wife's kittens to boost his appeal.

But Nixon did order burglary to get in front of George McGovern in 1972.

[Benuty]

And even Nixon didn't stoop so low as to use his wife's kittens to boost his appeal.

But Nixon did order burglary to get in front of George McGovern in 1972.

Even though good old McGovern was on his way to loosing the election (his campaign was begin to collapse). Nixon however keen on knee jerking decided that wasn't good enough.

[The Serbian Empire]

But Nixon did order burglary to get in front of George McGovern in 1972.

Even though good old McGovern was on his way to loosing the election (his campaign was begin to collapse). Nixon however keen on knee jerking decided that wasn't good enough.

That shows how shifty Nixon was. He couldn't see the campaign collapsing or lied to himself that McGovern wasn't in decline. Even Harper wouldn't stop that low as to lie from both sides of his mouth and then lie about the truth as well.

[Vicswampia]

I hope the New Democrats win.

[Divair]

I hope the New Democrats win.

There's a good chance they will. Once the Trudeau hype disappears, hopefully enough people will remember that the Liberals lost badly in 2011 for a reason.

[Greater Istanistan]

Chaos, anarchy, and a lack of support.

They have support now - did I mention earlier how they have more individual donors and gross donations than the Conservaatives?

They're sorting themselves out on the other two fronts. I'd be fine with either Liberals or New Democrats. But no way would I ever want Conservatives back in power.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

I hope the New Democrats win.

There's a good chance they will. Once the Trudeau hype disappears, hopefully enough people will remember that the Liberals lost badly in 2011 for a reason.

I don't think they will. Jack Layton is gone, and they cannot ride his coattails indefinitely, unless they try to build a "cult of personality" around his memory (which they won't). Their seats in Quebec may well evaporate in favour of Justin, and let's face it, Mr. Mulcair is no Jack Layton. What may help is an outstanding performance by Mulcair in televised debates, otherwise if Justin goes out and does well in debates as well, and receives largely positive media coverage (the media love him it seems), the NDP may go back down to third.

[Vamtrl]

What types of values, socially and financially, do the NDP represent? I only know of Jack Layton, but he died.

[Ainin]

What types of values, socially and financially, do the NDP represent? I only know of Jack Layton, but he died.

The NDP are mixed-market social democrats.

[Agritum]

I'm loving Canada under the conservatives!

Thank you. <3[/quote]

How masochistic.

[The Scientific States]

If we want to ensure Canada's future, Harper cannot win in 2015.