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What is the Best Realistic Form of Government?

Absolute Monarchy
21
5%
Constitutional Monarchy
32
8%
Ogliarchy
5
1%
Fascist State
34
9%
Right-Wing Democracy
47
12%
Moderate Democracy
67
17%
Left-Wing Democracy
68
17%
Socialism
40
10%
Communism
44
11%
Anarchy
42
11%
 
Total votes : 400

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Postby United States of White America » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:35 am

Fascism.
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Postby Hodor Hodor » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:45 am

I think any form of government would be perfect if it operated under ideal conditions that could never happen in real life, for example a monarchy ran by the perfect ruler who invariably makes the right decisions and is immune to all corruption.

If we want to keep this in the realm of what could exist I think a democracy free of political parties in which terms aren't given a hard limit so much as the people are free to change their vote whenever they want thus allowing politicians to be removed from office as soon as they fall from favor.
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Postby Boston and Surrounding Provinces » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:49 am

The best government?

A government that enforces it's laws, laws that keep someone from hurting another's property or body. The government doesn't wiretap it's citizens, or spy on them otherwise. A government that doesn't have it's nose up everyone elses ass, and doesn't feel the need to liberate every backward hell-hole in existence. A government that focuses on it's people, not it's political parties.

THAT'S a perfect government
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Postby Swanderfeld » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:53 am

Warped Aggression wrote:People are not perfect thus no government is perfect.

A hypothetical solution would appear to be removing the unstable factor from government.
Ideal government would therefore be one which does not have humans governing it, but an artificial intelligence which functions based solely on logic. It makes policy decisions based on hard facts, instead of emotions or public appeal. It will obviously require a base code to prevent it going rouge but apart from that, that would be ideal form of government.

Until we can achieve that however, I guess it depends on the nations itself.
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Postby Soled » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:56 am

Socialism. That's what i think. But not the bad kind of socialism, the good kind of socialism.
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:57 am

There isn't one, every system has its critical flaws
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Postby Hodor Hodor » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:15 am

Swanderfeld wrote:
Warped Aggression wrote:People are not perfect thus no government is perfect.

A hypothetical solution would appear to be removing the unstable factor from government.
Ideal government would therefore be one which does not have humans governing it, but an artificial intelligence which functions based solely on logic. It makes policy decisions based on hard facts, instead of emotions or public appeal. It will obviously require a base code to prevent it going rouge but apart from that, that would be ideal form of government.

Until we can achieve that however, I guess it depends on the nations itself.


Logic but no emotions? And what is the goal? If you want the government to operate on maximum efficiency, the logical thing is to drop as many government services as possible. If you want to keep as many people happy as possible, the logical thing is to provide lots of government service and to regularly cave into popular opinion, in other words make emotional decisions. Maximize GDP? Would you be fine with the AI implementing slavery or starting wars for the sake of military spending?
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Postby Azaflaza » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:19 am

There's no such thing as perfection, only the best system that works at the time for the people who live within it.

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Postby Senyek » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:22 am

A government that stays away from my paycheck and my phonecalls.
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Postby Wheeled States of Bifid » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:22 am

One that allows its citizens to live completely as they wish as long as they don't cause harm to others, in other words nothing that will ever actually exist.
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:25 am

The smallest kind. Private, localised welfare, very light regulation and low-to-non-existent income tax rates.

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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:26 am

Soled wrote:Socialism. That's what i think. But not the bad kind of socialism, the good kind of socialism.

That's like saying "I'd rather be robbed by my neighbours than by the government".

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Postby Lux Invicta » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:33 am

A decentralised goverment with a market/voluntary economy
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Postby Belique » Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:45 pm

Hodor Hodor wrote:
Swanderfeld wrote:A hypothetical solution would appear to be removing the unstable factor from government.
Ideal government would therefore be one which does not have humans governing it, but an artificial intelligence which functions based solely on logic. It makes policy decisions based on hard facts, instead of emotions or public appeal. It will obviously require a base code to prevent it going rouge but apart from that, that would be ideal form of government.

Until we can achieve that however, I guess it depends on the nations itself.


Logic but no emotions? And what is the goal? If you want the government to operate on maximum efficiency, the logical thing is to drop as many government services as possible. If you want to keep as many people happy as possible, the logical thing is to provide lots of government service and to regularly cave into popular opinion, in other words make emotional decisions. Maximize GDP? Would you be fine with the AI implementing slavery or starting wars for the sake of military spending?


Replace the computer with a King, and you've got a nice government...
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Postby Belique » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:12 pm

http://americanabsolutistparty.weebly.com/ that outlines my ideas perfectly
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Postby Madenia » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:21 pm

None of the above:

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Postby Belique » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:22 am

Conscentia wrote:
Soled wrote:Socialism. That's what i think. But not the bad kind of socialism, the good kind of socialism.

:palm: Socialism is not a form of government. It's a business model.


What the heck are you talking about? Yes, it involves business, but it isn't a business model! Socialism is when the GOVERNMENT draws its strength and power from controlling business.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:39 am

Belique wrote:http://americanabsolutistparty.weebly.com/ that outlines my ideas perfectly

What a terrible system.
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Postby UED » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:45 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Belique wrote:http://americanabsolutistparty.weebly.com/ that outlines my ideas perfectly

What a terrible system.


lol

go socialism and left wing democracy!
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Postby The Outer Isles » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:02 am

There is no perfect form of government.

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Postby Nuverikstan » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:17 am

It is amazing how everyone went for Left-Wing Democracy as the best, but that is America right now and we are doing terrible.
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Postby Cameroi » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:22 am

there is no perfect form, because form alone, guarantees nothing.
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Postby Cameroi » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:25 am

Nuverikstan wrote:It is amazing how everyone went for Left-Wing Democracy as the best, but that is America right now and we are doing terrible.

but america is neither all that left nor all that democratic. not as long as we have a.l.e.c. writing our state laws. we do have a shameful mess about a lot of things because of THAT though.
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Postby Nuverikstan » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:31 am

Cameroi wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:It is amazing how everyone went for Left-Wing Democracy as the best, but that is America right now and we are doing terrible.

but america is neither all that left nor all that democratic. not as long as we have a.l.e.c. writing our state laws. we do have a shameful mess about a lot of things because of THAT though.


I know how everyone loves Democracy and the freedom to vote for a leader, but it is a terrible system. Reason 1 it is choosing the better of 2 evils if you know what I mean (if not well it means when you go to vote you are just choosing the best worst person most of the time). Reason 2 if a good idea for a good law or to get rid of a bad law it never works because too many don't want that bad law gone or good law in. Reason 3 it is too confusing and less people every year care about who they vote and just right it down on a ballot. With all these reasons it shows Democracy is a terrible system that needs to be fixed.
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