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What is the Best Realistic Form of Government?

Absolute Monarchy
21
5%
Constitutional Monarchy
32
8%
Ogliarchy
5
1%
Fascist State
34
9%
Right-Wing Democracy
47
12%
Moderate Democracy
67
17%
Left-Wing Democracy
68
17%
Socialism
40
10%
Communism
44
11%
Anarchy
42
11%
 
Total votes : 400

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Euronion
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Postby Euronion » Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:54 pm

The one in which I rule as absolute monarch :p

In all seriousness though, republicanism is the best form of government, specifically federal republicanism. It gives its member states a large degree of autonomy to decide what is best for their own area while allowing the Federal Government to focus on National problems and to handle out of state affairs.
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Akoz
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Postby Akoz » Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:03 pm

A fascist state oooooh yes indeed :)
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Duvniask
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Postby Duvniask » Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:05 pm

Akoz wrote:A fascist state oooooh yes indeed :)

How about no?
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The Klishi Islands
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Postby The Klishi Islands » Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:43 pm

The best would be what the US has now except smaller, and put term limits on the House (3 terms of two years) and Senate (two terms of six years).
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Postby Belique » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:28 pm

The Great University of Planet wrote:Personally, I think the best kind of government is one that adapts its policies to suit the current situation. Obsessing over ideologies is counterproductive.


But what if that government stresses an unmoralistic ideology, or something that could get the people hurt?
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Postby Belique » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:29 pm

Euronion wrote:The one in which I rule as absolute monarch :p

In all seriousness though, republicanism is the best form of government, specifically federal republicanism. It gives its member states a large degree of autonomy to decide what is best for their own area while allowing the Federal Government to focus on National problems and to handle out of state affairs.


I agree with your ideology to a certain extent, and your signature ALL THE WAY!
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Postby Divair » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:30 pm

Kumrann wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:I would like some sort of a midway between a parliamentary republic and a Roman-style republic. MPs are elected by the masses, two PMs/presidents serve simultaneously, and positions like aediles, praetors, and quasetors (all officials from the Roman Republic) are appointed by their fellow MPs.


What's the benefit of having 2 PMs/Presidents serving at the same time?

I imagine the idea is to add another level of checks & balances. Switzerland, for example, doesn't have one leader, it has a council of seven.

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Belique
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Postby Belique » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:30 pm

Akoz wrote:A fascist state oooooh yes indeed :)


I like that too!
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Postby Duvniask » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:33 pm

Belique wrote:
Akoz wrote:A fascist state oooooh yes indeed :)


I like that too!

What is the appeal?
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Postby Nervium » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:37 pm

Duvniask wrote:
Belique wrote:
I like that too!

What is the appeal?


Most internet fascists assume they'd be the ones in charge, I think.
Or they believe Mussolini was competent in some shape.
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Belique
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Postby Belique » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:38 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Belique wrote:I like that too!

Because totalitarianism is a good thing. :palm:


Heck yes!
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Postby Divair » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:39 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Belique wrote:I like that too!

Because totalitarianism is a good thing. :palm:

If you're a kid, it might seem like it.

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Postby Duvniask » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:41 pm

Divair wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Because totalitarianism is a good thing. :palm:

If you're a kid, it might seem like it.

Or if you have delusions of grandeur, and subsequently believe you'll be in charge.
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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:47 pm

It's seriously disturbing that 8% of the people responded that they thought fascist state would by ideal. Honestly, what the hell, NSG, what the hell.
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Nervium
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Postby Nervium » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:17 pm

Uieurnthlaal wrote:It's seriously disturbing that 8% of the people responded that they thought fascist state would by ideal. Honestly, what the hell, NSG, what the hell.


Teenagers.
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Sol Nascente
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Postby Sol Nascente » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:23 pm

I would choose National Syndicalist but since that option isn't there I voted for Fascist state .

All for the Nation nothing against the Nation .

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Belique
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Postby Belique » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:16 pm

Sol Nascente wrote:I would choose National Syndicalist but since that option isn't there I voted for Fascist state .

All for the Nation nothing against the Nation .


Why?
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Divair
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Postby Divair » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:39 pm

Nervium wrote:
Uieurnthlaal wrote:It's seriously disturbing that 8% of the people responded that they thought fascist state would by ideal. Honestly, what the hell, NSG, what the hell.


Teenagers.

The only explanation.

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Postby Wind in the Willows » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:43 pm

Somewhere in the middle of right-wing and left-wing.

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Kumrann
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Postby Kumrann » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:22 pm

Nervium wrote:
Uieurnthlaal wrote:It's seriously disturbing that 8% of the people responded that they thought fascist state would by ideal. Honestly, what the hell, NSG, what the hell.


Teenagers.


Must also be accounting for the high levels of Communists and Anarchists :)
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Sol Nascente
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Postby Sol Nascente » Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:22 am

Belique wrote:
Sol Nascente wrote:I would choose National Syndicalist but since that option isn't there I voted for Fascist state .

All for the Nation nothing against the Nation .


Why?


Because I think it was the balance between Economic " Leftism " and the Social " Rightism " .

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Postby Estado Paulista » Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:42 am

Kumrann wrote:
Nervium wrote:
Teenagers.


Must also be accounting for the high levels of Communists and Anarchists :)


This. :hug:
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:26 am

inb4 republican elective theocracy
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