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What is the Best Realistic Form of Government?

Absolute Monarchy
21
5%
Constitutional Monarchy
32
8%
Ogliarchy
5
1%
Fascist State
34
9%
Right-Wing Democracy
47
12%
Moderate Democracy
67
17%
Left-Wing Democracy
68
17%
Socialism
40
10%
Communism
44
11%
Anarchy
42
11%
 
Total votes : 400

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Sociobiology
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Postby Sociobiology » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:42 pm

at OP
there isn't one

the best we have seen however is a mixed economy, pluralistic, representative democracy.
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Postby Belique » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:45 pm

Lamplight Caverns wrote:
Belique wrote:
No way, we would destroy ourselves and civilization.


And we aren't doing that now?


So true, therefore we need a strong leader, the divine right, a streamlined government, and the education of the Dauphin/Crown Prince/Heir Apparent from birth. You can get all of these with an Absolute Monarchy!
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Postby Divair » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:47 pm

Belique wrote:
Lamplight Caverns wrote:
And we aren't doing that now?


So true, therefore we need a strong leader, the divine right, a streamlined government, and the education of the Dauphin/Crown Prince/Heir Apparent from birth. You can get all of these with an Absolute Monarchy!

I thought summer ended months ago.

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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:52 pm

Divair wrote:
Belique wrote:
So true, therefore we need a strong leader, the divine right, a streamlined government, and the education of the Dauphin/Crown Prince/Heir Apparent from birth. You can get all of these with an Absolute Monarchy!

I thought summer ended months ago.


A new age of summer is already upon us. There is no way to stop it.
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In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Dangelia » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:53 pm

I say, the best government is a semi-socialist semi-federal executive constitutional monarchy.

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Postby Divair » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:53 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Divair wrote:I thought summer ended months ago.


A new age of summer is already upon us. There is no way to stop it.

Been here for almost five years. I'm aware.

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Postby Empire of Narnia » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:01 pm

Totalitarian Theocracy. I made it up and it is the perfect form of government.

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Postby Zebulor » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:26 pm

How about an authoritarian democracy in which all districts and their boundaries are determined by long-standing tradition, making gerrymandering impossible?

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Threlizdun » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:28 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:Totalitarian Theocracy. I made it up and it is the perfect form of government.
You didn't make it up and we know that is always atrocious
Zebulor wrote:How about an authoritarian democracy in which all districts and their boundaries are determined by long-standing tradition, making gerrymandering impossible?
Seriously, is no one able to read the title?
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Postby Zebulor » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:30 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Totalitarian Theocracy. I made it up and it is the perfect form of government.
You didn't make it up and we know that is always atrocious
Zebulor wrote:How about an authoritarian democracy in which all districts and their boundaries are determined by long-standing tradition, making gerrymandering impossible?
Seriously, is no one able to read the title?

I prefer to interpret it as a hyperbole rather than wanting a literally perfect government, which is of course absurd. Since perfection is a completely artificial concept and we would have no objective way of knowing we are in its presence even if it shat in our mouths and pissed in our eyes.

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Postby New haven america » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:30 pm

A perfect mixture of Marxism and Capitalist Democracy.
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Postby Threlizdun » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:32 pm

Zebulor wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:You didn't make it up and we know that is always atrocious
Seriously, is no one able to read the title?

I prefer to interpret it as a hyperbole rather than wanting a literally perfect government, which is of course absurd. Since perfection is a completely artificial concept and we would have no objective way of knowing we are in its presence even if it shat in our mouths and pissed in our eyes.
It is irrelevant how it is taken when "authoritarian" is in the answer.
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Postby Zebulor » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:41 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Zebulor wrote:I prefer to interpret it as a hyperbole rather than wanting a literally perfect government, which is of course absurd. Since perfection is a completely artificial concept and we would have no objective way of knowing we are in its presence even if it shat in our mouths and pissed in our eyes.
It is irrelevant how it is taken when "authoritarian" is in the answer.

Ah you are one of those folks. Ok.

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Postby Duckstown » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:43 pm

Everyone rules themselves.

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Dangelia
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Postby Dangelia » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:45 pm

I say, the best government is a semi-socialist semi-federal executive constitutional monarchy.

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Postby Mkuki » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:12 am

None. All forms of government have flaws.
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:51 am

Belique wrote:
Lamplight Caverns wrote:
And we aren't doing that now?


So true, therefore we need a strong leader, the divine right, a streamlined government, and the education of the Dauphin/Crown Prince/Heir Apparent from birth. You can get all of these with an Absolute Monarchy!

And the National Razor for when that inevitably doesn't work out.
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Postby Mkuki » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:52 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Belique wrote:
So true, therefore we need a strong leader, the divine right, a streamlined government, and the education of the Dauphin/Crown Prince/Heir Apparent from birth. You can get all of these with an Absolute Monarchy!

And the National Razor for when that inevitably doesn't work out.

This is no time for decrees by crazy Tsars. ;)
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10

Political Test (Results)
Who Do I Side With?
Vision of the Justice Party - Justice Party Platform
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.
HAVE FUN BURNING IN HELL!

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Postby Mkuki » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:54 am

I'd like to demand a change in the thread title. Mostly because it and the poll question imply two very different things.
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10

Political Test (Results)
Who Do I Side With?
Vision of the Justice Party - Justice Party Platform
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.
HAVE FUN BURNING IN HELL!

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:08 am

Mkuki wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:And the National Razor for when that inevitably doesn't work out.

This is no time for decrees by crazy Tsars. ;)

Let me just tell you that I am increasingly finding the French Revolution fascinating. We should all emulate it by not wearing socks or hose.
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And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
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Postby Belique » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:25 am

Mkuki wrote:I'd like to demand a change in the thread title. Mostly because it and the poll question imply two very different things.


No it's not.
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Postby Belique » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:29 am

Mkuki wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:And the National Razor for when that inevitably doesn't work out.

This is no time for decrees by crazy Tsars. ;)


I actually LOVE the Tsars!
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Postby Pandeeria » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:38 am

Duckstown wrote:Everyone rules themselves.


Wouldn't work.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Mkuki » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:34 am

Belique wrote:
Mkuki wrote:I'd like to demand a change in the thread title. Mostly because it and the poll question imply two very different things.


No it's not.

Yes, they do.

Perfect implies different things from best. Perfect means no flaws while best usually means that flaws are at a minimal.
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10

Political Test (Results)
Who Do I Side With?
Vision of the Justice Party - Justice Party Platform
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.
HAVE FUN BURNING IN HELL!

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Postby Belique » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:36 pm

Mkuki wrote:
Belique wrote:
No it's not.

Yes, they do.

Perfect implies different things from best. Perfect means no flaws while best usually means that flaws are at a minimal.


Close enough, it wouldn't really matter, as nothing is perfect besides Jesus Christ. I just wish everyone could think beyond a small error and get on with the topic. Don't be a stick-in-the-mud and technical. :)
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