What is the Perfect Form of Government?

[Alyekra]

Yes. You can always trust the people with the power to regulate themselves. Do you know how long the US constitution kept our government in check?

It's kept them well enough in check to this very day.

Try ten years.

[United Dependencies]

It's kept them well enough in check to this very day.

Try ten years.

It's kept them well enough in check to this very day.

[Alyekra]

Try ten years.

It's kept them well enough in check to this very day.

Well now that's hardly fair.



It might be well enough for you, but people being thrown in jail for their political beliefs doesn't seem acceptable to me.

[United Dependencies]

Well now that's hardly fair.



It might be well enough for you, but people being thrown in jail for their political beliefs doesn't seem acceptable to me.

It's an unfortunate part of this nations history. One of many

I would note that the judiciary has since improved in its ability to regulate the other branches. Also the laws in question have since expired.

[Shnercropolis]

Well now that's hardly fair.



It might be well enough for you, but people being thrown in jail for their political beliefs doesn't seem acceptable to me.

It's an unfortunate part of this nations history. One of many

I would note that the judiciary has since improved in its ability to regulate the other branches. Also the laws in question have since expired.

Nuh uh! If something supports my preconceived notions, it must be true and/or representative of something that is true!

[Alyekra]

It's an unfortunate part of this nations history. One of many

I would note that the judiciary has since improved in its ability to regulate the other branches. Also the laws in question have since expired.

Nuh uh! If something supports my preconceived notions, it must be true and/or representative of something that is true!

I can't understand your post in the least, but it seems like I should be able to. That's probably a sign that I should try again in the morning.

Seeya.

[Shnercropolis]

Nuh uh! If something supports my preconceived notions, it must be true and/or representative of something that is true!

I can't understand your post in the least, but it seems like I should be able to. That's probably a sign that I should try again in the morning.

Seeya.

hint: It's a joke.

[Alyekra]

I can't understand your post in the least, but it seems like I should be able to. That's probably a sign that I should try again in the morning.

Seeya.

hint: It's a joke.

I got that far. I can't tell in reference to what.

This time I'm going to bed for real. I promise

[Weed]

The last few entries in this poll are not really government types but rather economic types and then Anarchy meaning the lack of a government.

From an economic standpoint democracy is far from the perfect form of government. Getting the necessary information to voters for them to make a decision takes resources that could be used elsewhere, like giving people food, water, and shelter. The perfect form of government would therefore be a monarchy or dictator that is not elected, but looks out for the people as if he were. That is difficult to achieve out of the ideal world so that would be why most societies tend to choose democratic systems once their economy provides a decent standard of living on the average (because before then, the resources should be used elsewhere).

[Nationalist State of Knox]

One that does not exist.

I know we are both anarchists, but i made an essay against AnCaps(Anarcho-Capitalists). http://www.booksie.com/editorial_and_op ... delusional

In what world does that constitute an "essay"?

[Immoren]

I know we are both anarchists, but i made an essay against AnCaps(Anarcho-Capitalists). http://www.booksie.com/editorial_and_op ... delusional

In what world does that constitute an "essay"?

Entry level upper-secondary school classes?

[Alyekra]

One that does not exist.

I know we are both anarchists, but i made an essay against AnCaps(Anarcho-Capitalists). http://www.booksie.com/editorial_and_op ... delusional

Awwww, aren't you adorable.

AnCaps are Anarcho-Capitalists. That means they want everything owned by corporations. Corporate Dictatorship. This is bad. Why? Because it would never work! Why? Lets use an example:

Wrong. Anarcho-Capitalists want everything to be owned by people rather than monopolies on violence.

Your house is on fire. Your kids are burnt to the highest degree. Your spouse is bleeding heavily. Your poor.

My poor what?

In our society, even though it has major problems, they would still get help. But in Ancaplandia, no one would care.

Newsflash: compassion doesn't magically vanish in the absence of a monopoly on violence.

They might even be happy that a "Deadbeat, pathetic, idiotic junkie" was killed. The corporations wouldnt care. They would just get someone else.

'Cause that never happens already.

Guesz^[SP] what else? Free press, votes, assembly, privacy, etc. depends on the corporations' mercy. And they are maximising profits, which means they would cut that out.

Hmm, let's see. Group A throws people in jail who disagree with them, and spies on people phone calls (Sound familiar?). Group B does not. Who are you going to purchase goods from?

No privacy, your friends are chosen, dissent=death, thought police, etc.

How would any of that be profitable.

And where does the money come from?

Voluntary transactions that necessarily benefit both parties.

You cant trust a corporation, as they would make sure they get most of it, and inflate the economy.

You can't trust the state, as they do make sure they get most of it, and inflate the economy.

Hackers would hack electronics.

As they already do.

In conclusion, AnCaps are delusional, idiotic, self righteous pieces of ass.

In conclusion, learn2debate.

[Imperial Nilfgaard]

The best government would be a secular authoritarian state run by a philosopher-king.
This government will implement the norms of societal predeterminism. Furthermore such a society will work towards world domination so as to fulfill the global ideals of the ComPart ideology.

All of this is for the purpose of making the human race immortal and as powerful as possible. With an iron government which weeds out the sheep and the weaker instincts of humankind, we will push forward to the technological singularity. We will achieve perfection and eternal life through technology and observance to the proper authority.

[Danhanjeedh]

There is no best gouverment. It all depends on the people and culture. Based on that you can look what the best option is.

[Alyekra]

The best government would be a secular authoritarian state run by a philosopher-king.
This government will implement the norms of societal predeterminism. Furthermore such a society will work towards world domination so as to fulfill the global ideals of the ComPart ideology.

All of this is for the purpose of making the human race immortal and as powerful as possible. With an iron government which weeds out the sheep and the weaker instincts of humankind, we will push forward to the technological singularity. We will achieve perfection and eternal life through technology and observance to the proper authority.

Neo-Platoism?

[Imperial Nilfgaard]

The best government would be a secular authoritarian state run by a philosopher-king.
This government will implement the norms of societal predeterminism. Furthermore such a society will work towards world domination so as to fulfill the global ideals of the ComPart ideology.

All of this is for the purpose of making the human race immortal and as powerful as possible. With an iron government which weeds out the sheep and the weaker instincts of humankind, we will push forward to the technological singularity. We will achieve perfection and eternal life through technology and observance to the proper authority.

Neo-Platoism?

Plato is an important influence, yes.

[Albul]

Aw... there's no spot for a liberal secular democratic socialist republic...

[The New Lowlands]

The perfect form of government would be an absolute monarchy led by an omniscient and absolutely good leader. Such a government, of course, cannot be found.

The best practical form of government we have so far is a democracy with protection of minority rights.

[Alyekra]

Neo-Platoism?

Plato is an important influence, yes.

Yeah, well adding Neo- to the beginning of anything makes it sound cooler.

[Albul]

The perfect form of government would be an absolute monarchy led by an omniscient and absolutely good leader.

What is to say that the perfect government requires a leader?

[The New Lowlands]

The perfect form of government would be an absolute monarchy led by an omniscient and absolutely good leader.

What is to say that the perfect government requires a leader?

Do you know any governments that don't have a leader or leader(s)?

[Alyekra]

What is to say that the perfect government requires a leader?

Do you know any governments that don't have a leader or leader(s)?

I know plenty that do, and none of them are perfect.

[Imperial Nilfgaard]

Plato is an important influence, yes.

Yeah, well adding Neo- to the beginning of anything makes it sound cooler.

Absolutely.
We think that the ideal government is based in a Platonic understanding of society and the division of labor.
In terms of the ideal philosopher-king, Aristotle is a major influence with his concept of the "Great Souled Man"
And then in terms of vision, Kurzweil is very important, as the ultimate goal of this government and society is to help prepare us for the coming technological singularity.

So in essence,
Socially we are Platonic,
Leadership is Aristotelian
Vision is Kurzweilian

[Benuty]

A government where we all leave each other the hell alone (except in times of communal decision making on the affairs of the state) and the financial contributions to help pay for state sponsored services.

[Nervium]

Aw... there's no spot for a liberal secular democratic socialist republic...

What do you mean there's no spot for Reality Disconnectment Zone, it's right there.
Kidding ofcourse...