What is the Perfect Form of Government?

[Pandeeria]

... And giving it complete power.

Fine lets do that get rid of government, anarchy, the purge everywhere. Actually that's not that bad as long as the moral people band together then the survivors (Well most of them) will be good people. That will one day form another government for this to start all over again.

Let's not go into Anarchy. The state needs some power, but not too much.

[Nazi Greece]

There is no perfect form of government, however every form of government has their advantages. Anarchy is great on paper, but isn't very good in practice. A representative democracy of some kind is probably the best form of government right now.

[Threlizdun]

... And giving it complete power.

Fine lets do that get rid of government, anarchy, the purge everywhere. Actually that's not that bad as long as the moral people band together then the survivors (Well most of them) will be good people. That will one day form another government for this to start all over again.

That is not anarchy, but anomie. You really need to begin rethinking your ethical beliefs if you presume those who kill best are the most moral.

[Alyekra]

Fine lets do that get rid of government, anarchy, the purge everywhere. Actually that's not that bad as long as the moral people band together then the survivors (Well most of them) will be good people. That will one day form another government for this to start all over again.

Let's not go into Anarchy. The state needs some power, but not too much.

Insofar as the state is a monopoly on violence in a geographical area, I say chuck it.

[Pandeeria]

Let's not go into Anarchy. The state needs some power, but not too much.

Insofar as the state is a monopoly on violence in a geographical area, I say chuck it.

Perhaps it stops being so violent then? Let's take fund from defence and impose stricter regulations and checks within the government-military system.

[United Dependencies]

Let's not go into Anarchy. The state needs some power, but not too much.

Insofar as the state is a monopoly on violence in a geographical area, I say chuck it.

yeah man. We're not part of your system.

[United States of Natan]

When I have looked at the perfect government, I have always imagined a nearly all-powerful monarch that has a set of Common Laws that he can only change one thing in his reign on. He would be elected by 10 Great Elector-Nobles who decide on who will be the next King. In addition to these limitations, the monarch only reigns for 20 years, but CAN be re-elected.

I think the best is a center-left wing consitutional presidential Democratic Republic.

[Nuverikstan]

Fine lets do that get rid of government, anarchy, the purge everywhere. Actually that's not that bad as long as the moral people band together then the survivors (Well most of them) will be good people. That will one day form another government for this to start all over again.

No, what will happen is that people will realize that they don't need a monopoly on violence to run everything.

History always repeats its self so another government will rises sorry to say. It is human nature to rebel but humans always want to control other humans and eventually (after who knows how many years) there will be another government.

[Threlizdun]

Insofar as the state is a monopoly on violence in a geographical area, I say chuck it.

Perhaps it stops being so violent then? Let's take fund from defence and impose stricter regulations and checks within the government-military system.

The state is an inherently violent institution. One can make it less violent, but it can never cease to be violent unless it ceases to exist.

[United Dependencies]

Fine lets do that get rid of government, anarchy, the purge everywhere. Actually that's not that bad as long as the moral people band together then the survivors (Well most of them) will be good people. That will one day form another government for this to start all over again.

No, what will happen is that people will realize that they don't need a monopoly on violence to run everything.

As evidenced by?

[Nuverikstan]

Fine lets do that get rid of government, anarchy, the purge everywhere. Actually that's not that bad as long as the moral people band together then the survivors (Well most of them) will be good people. That will one day form another government for this to start all over again.

That is not anarchy, but anomie. You really need to begin rethinking your ethical beliefs if you presume those who kill best are the most moral.

No I mean the moral people will usually go off and hide somewhere and when they emerge will be alive.

[Alyekra]

Insofar as the state is a monopoly on violence in a geographical area, I say chuck it.

Perhaps it stops being so violent then? Let's take fund from defence and impose stricter regulations and checks within the government-military system.

Yes. You can always trust the people with the power to regulate themselves. Do you know how long the US constitution kept our government in check?

[Threlizdun]

No, what will happen is that people will realize that they don't need a monopoly on violence to run everything.

History always repeats its self so another government will rises sorry to say. It is human nature to rebel but humans always want to control other humans and eventually (after who knows how many years) there will be another government.

Governments would exist within anarchy. To believe otherwise is absolutely nonsensical. Anarchism is a society devoid of social hierarchies, most notably the state, not one devoid of government.

[United Dependencies]

That is not anarchy, but anomie. You really need to begin rethinking your ethical beliefs if you presume those who kill best are the most moral.

No I mean the moral people will usually go off and hide somewhere and when they emerge will be alive.

Are you serious?

[Nuverikstan]

History always repeats its self so another government will rises sorry to say. It is human nature to rebel but humans always want to control other humans and eventually (after who knows how many years) there will be another government.

Governments would exist within anarchy. To believe otherwise is absolutely nonsensical. Anarchism is a society devoid of social hierarchies, most notably the state, not one devoid of government.

No I also said The Purge a governmentless society so if that came around we would all be dead.

[The First Moffinate Imperium]

When I have looked at the perfect government, I have always imagined a nearly all-powerful monarch that has a set of Common Laws that he can only change one thing in his reign on. He would be elected by 10 Great Elector-Nobles who decide on who will be the next King. In addition to these limitations, the monarch only reigns for 20 years, but CAN be re-elected.

I think a Democrat Socialist would be good. With the people being provided for basic necessities, and everythiog else ( like luxury goods) running capitalistically.

[Threlizdun]

That is not anarchy, but anomie. You really need to begin rethinking your ethical beliefs if you presume those who kill best are the most moral.

No I mean the moral people will usually go off and hide somewhere and when they emerge will be alive.

Were you not just arguing moments ago that pacifism was foolish and that society should ignore everything but war?

[Pandeeria]

Perhaps it stops being so violent then? Let's take fund from defence and impose stricter regulations and checks within the government-military system.

The state is an inherently violent institution. One can make it less violent, but it can never cease to be violent unless it ceases to exist.

I'm not totally against violence. Just needless violence. And IMO, there always has to be some form of a State.

Perhaps it stops being so violent then? Let's take fund from defence and impose stricter regulations and checks within the government-military system.

Yes. You can always trust the people with the power to regulate themselves. Do you know how long the US constitution kept our government in check?

Wait, are you being sarcastic right now?

Information on accounts, funding, and a right to know what out government is doing should be a must. You don't want the state getting too powerful in the first place.

[Nuverikstan]

No I mean the moral people will usually go off and hide somewhere and when they emerge will be alive.

Are you serious?

Nah just posting a quick answer. My real one is the moral if they band will survive together and being moral will only kill for defense not to just kill (I hope). So after the world Purge the moral people will be alive.

[Pandeeria]

Are you serious?

Nah just posting a quick answer. My real one is the moral if they band will survive together and being moral will only kill for defense not to just kill (I hope). So after the world Purge the moral people will be alive.

This is so hypothetical and lacks so many uncountable factors. A purge is a horrible thing, social and political reform is needed, not violence and blood shed.

[United Dependencies]

Are you serious?

Nah just posting a quick answer. My real one is the moral if they band will survive together and being moral will only kill for defense not to just kill (I hope). So after the world Purge the moral people will be alive.

You understand that having to include the phrase "I hope" when you discuss an ideal society doesn't exactly make for sound theory?

[Threlizdun]

Are you serious?

Nah just posting a quick answer. My real one is the moral if they band will survive together and being moral will only kill for defense not to just kill (I hope). So after the world Purge the moral people will be alive.

So far you have been telling us that we should all kill each other and that you never actually bothered to think about what results of creating a society with perpetual war would be. You have then proceded to make shit up as you went along.

[Shnercropolis]

I think the perfect form of government is something akin to the deified monarchy of Persia.

[Alyekra]

Are you serious?

Nah just posting a quick answer. My real one is the moral if they band will survive together and being moral will only kill for defense not to just kill (I hope). So after the world Purge the moral people will be alive.

Are you referencing what happened in the Purge movie?

[United Dependencies]

Yes. You can always trust the people with the power to regulate themselves. Do you know how long the US constitution kept our government in check?

It's kept them well enough in check to this very day.