What is the Perfect Form of Government?

[Pridnestrovie Transnistria]

Green Book Communism.

What? How is Communism, a system that has failed time to time again, considered evil by meany, and goes against back human nature good?

Failed? More like sabotaged by Capitalist-Imperialistic "containment" at every single bloody turn.

[Belique]

What? How is Communism, a system that has failed time to time again, considered evil by meany, and goes against back human nature good?

Failed? More like sabotaged by Capitalist-Imperialistic "containment" at every single bloody turn.

That is completely false! If Communism was missing one thing (which was it being unattainable) I would be a MASSIVE advocate of Communism, and I think so would everyone else, but the idea is corrupted by human greed. Look at all Communist countries: the idea was to create less government result = more government-control than ever before, even in Nazi Germany! That is haut one example of how COMMUNISM IS A FAILURE, AND, it always results in the deaths of millions, even in tiny countries!

[Masophia]

Constitutional Representative Democracy.

Also, I'd like to point out, if I may, that anarchism cannot be the perfect form of gov't because it necessitates dismantling the state.

[Cameroi]

one which is not usurped by economics, but otherwise stays out of the way as best it can, while justifying its existence to the fullest extent of the cost of that existence. there is no one magic ideology, policy or formula.

[Nuverikstan]

Failed? More like sabotaged by Capitalist-Imperialistic "containment" at every single bloody turn.

That is completely false! If Communism was missing one thing (which was it being unattainable) I would be a MASSIVE advocate of Communism, and I think so would everyone else, but the idea is corrupted by human greed. Look at all Communist countries: the idea was to create less government result = more government-control than ever before, even in Nazi Germany! That is haut one example of how COMMUNISM IS A FAILURE, AND, it always results in the deaths of millions, even in tiny countries!

I am going to agree with Belique of course. Also I see this man is a die hard Leninist or Marxist because he isn't Stalinist. Stalinist are more authoritarian even the other 2 fail too.

[Pandeeria]

What? How is Communism, a system that has failed time to time again, considered evil by meany, and goes against back human nature good?

Failed? More like sabotaged by Capitalist-Imperialistic "containment" at every single bloody turn.

The USSR wasn't sabatoged. Communism is an extremist ideology that just doesn't take basic human nature into account. It's a classical case of something that is beautiful in theory, but is broken in practice.

I think Socialism is a lot more of a viable option.

[Blasveck]

Failed? More like sabotaged by Capitalist-Imperialistic "containment" at every single bloody turn.

The USSR wasn't sabatoged. Communism is an extremist ideology that just doesn't take basic human nature into account. It's a classical case of something that is beautiful in theory, but is broken in practice.

I think Socialism is a lot more of a viable option.

Which aspect of human nature are you referring to?

I'm sure you're well-informed on the subject, yes?

[Alyekra]

What's the perfect form of a Mafia?

[Blasveck]

Constitutional Representative Democracy.

Also, I'd like to point out, if I may, that anarchism cannot be the perfect form of gov't because it necessitates dismantling the state.

The state however =/= Governments

Depending on the anarchist you talk to, some are not opposed to certain forms of governments, but most, AFAIK, are opposed to the state.

[Masophia]

Constitutional Representative Democracy.

Also, I'd like to point out, if I may, that anarchism cannot be the perfect form of gov't because it necessitates dismantling the state.

The state however =/= Governments

Depending on the anarchist you talk to, some are not opposed to certain forms of governments, but most, AFAIK, are opposed to the state.

Fair enough, fair enough.

[Alyekra]

Constitutional Representative Democracy.

Also, I'd like to point out, if I may, that anarchism cannot be the perfect form of gov't because it necessitates dismantling the state.

The state however =/= Governments

Depending on the anarchist you talk to, some are not opposed to certain forms of governments, but most, AFAIK, are opposed to the state.

Hmm. Yes, Panarchism. A rather more obscure term.

[Pandeeria]

The USSR wasn't sabatoged. Communism is an extremist ideology that just doesn't take basic human nature into account. It's a classical case of something that is beautiful in theory, but is broken in practice.

I think Socialism is a lot more of a viable option.

Which aspect of human nature are you referring to?

I'm sure you're well-informed on the subject, yes?

I'm referring to the aspect of greed and power-hunger (for a lack of better word).

To a degree yes I am.

[Nuverikstan]

I still think a small government Fascist State is the best. Fascism is right in the sense peace is impossible and war is good but I don't believe in all the authoritarian-totalitarianism so I go with a small government Fascist State. Anyone have anything against this (besides pacifists).

[Pandeeria]

I still think a small government Fascist State is the best. Fascism is right in the sense peace is impossible and war is good but I don't believe in all the authoritarian-totalitarianism so I go with a small government Fascist State. Anyone have anything against this (besides pacifists).

War isn't good. I'm not a pacifist, but mindless militarism and nationalism isn't good. Combine that with Xenopboia and Right-Wing Totalitarianism and you got a recipe for disaster.

[Alyekra]

I still think a small government Fascist State is the best. Fascism is right in the sense peace is impossible and war is good but I don't believe in all the authoritarian-totalitarianism so I go with a small government Fascist State. Anyone have anything against this (besides pacifists).

ooooh boy.

Let's start with the obvious.

How can Fascism possibly have a small government?

[Pridnestrovie Transnistria]

Failed? More like sabotaged by Capitalist-Imperialistic "containment" at every single bloody turn.

The USSR wasn't sabatoged. Communism is an extremist ideology that just doesn't take basic human nature into account. It's a classical case of something that is beautiful in theory, but is broken in practice.

I think Socialism is a lot more of a viable option.

Tell me?

You have never heard about "containment", neo-colonialism, under-development, the IMF, the World Bank, economic sanctions, the contras amongst other death squads, covert operations, anti-Communist purges, coup d'états, five decade+ long embargoes on Communist nations such as Cuba or Best Korea, amongst other manners Capitalist-Imperialist governments have destabilised or attempted to squash Communist, or Communist-derived countries I suppose?

[Nuverikstan]

I still think a small government Fascist State is the best. Fascism is right in the sense peace is impossible and war is good but I don't believe in all the authoritarian-totalitarianism so I go with a small government Fascist State. Anyone have anything against this (besides pacifists).

ooooh boy.

Let's start with the obvious.

How can Fascism possibly have a small government?

That I have not figured out yet but when I do I will tell you.

[Pandeeria]

The USSR wasn't sabatoged. Communism is an extremist ideology that just doesn't take basic human nature into account. It's a classical case of something that is beautiful in theory, but is broken in practice.

I think Socialism is a lot more of a viable option.

Tell me?

You have never heard about "containment", neo-colonialism, under-development, the IMF, the World Bank, economic sanctions, the contras amongst other death squads, covert operations, anti-Communist purges, coup d'états, five decade+ long embargoes on Communist nations such as Cuba or Best Korea, amongst other manners Capitalist-Imperialist governments have destabilised or attempted to squash Communist, or Communist-derived countries I suppose?

The Cold War? How the US along with other countries would prop up dictator ships to stop the spread of communism?

[Threlizdun]

The USSR wasn't sabatoged. Communism is an extremist ideology that just doesn't take basic human nature into account. It's a classical case of something that is beautiful in theory, but is broken in practice.

I think Socialism is a lot more of a viable option.

Tell me?

You have never heard about "containment", neo-colonialism, under-development, the IMF, the World Bank, economic sanctions, the contras amongst other death squads, covert operations, anti-Communist purges, coup d'états, five decade+ long embargoes on Communist nations such as Cuba or Best Korea, amongst other manners Capitalist-Imperialist governments have destabilised or attempted to squash Communist, or Communist-derived countries I suppose?

Cuba and North Korea were not communist.

[Alyekra]

ooooh boy.

Let's start with the obvious.

How can Fascism possibly have a small government?

That I have not figured out yet but when I do I will tell you.

It's probably a bad idea to advocate a form of government you know nothing about then, right?

[Nuverikstan]

But if you have the nation focused on war and the like the people won't argue about non important things like welfare and tobacco smokers. They will be focused on the war along with the government, so the people and the government won't be focusing on ruining each others life.

[Nuverikstan]

That I have not figured out yet but when I do I will tell you.

It's probably a bad idea to advocate a form of government you know nothing about then, right?

Look I will work this out in the morning because in idea it sounds good and might just work just look at my last post.

[Pridnestrovie Transnistria]

Tell me?

You have never heard about "containment", neo-colonialism, under-development, the IMF, the World Bank, economic sanctions, the contras amongst other death squads, covert operations, anti-Communist purges, coup d'états, five decade+ long embargoes on Communist nations such as Cuba or Best Korea, amongst other manners Capitalist-Imperialist governments have destabilised or attempted to squash Communist, or Communist-derived countries I suppose?

The Cold War? How the US along with other countries would prop up dictator ships to stop the spread of communism?

Yes. Its also the time that saw bloody wars against Communist countries, saw the utilisation of brutalising death squads such as UNITA or the contras to "stop Communism", or ruthless economic sanctions draining the life out of Communist countries. I apologise, however the truth is, our Capitalist governments are criminals that want to put the blame for their actions on their victims.

[Threlizdun]

ooooh boy.

Let's start with the obvious.

How can Fascism possibly have a small government?

That I have not figured out yet but when I do I will tell you.

Authoritarianism is a fundamental aspect of fascism. What you are describing is more along the lines of militaristic neo-tribalism, though why the hell you would ever find such a nightmarish condition ideal is beyond me.

[Blasveck]

But if you have the nation focused on war and the like the people won't argue about non important things like welfare and tobacco smokers. They will be focused on the war along with the government, so the people and the government won't be focusing on ruining each others life.

Because goin to war is better than arguing about tobacco.

Clearly.