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Postby Rocopurr » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:43 pm

Dutch Afrika wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:You really make friendship out to be an awful thing. Yeah, it sucks to get rejected, but you'll most likely get over it and then just be happy friends. Even if you don't, wouldn't you rather be friends than enemies or nothing at all?

1) Waaaat. I make friendship look awful?

2) Of course it does. Friendzone is just the slower form. I would rather be told straight-forward.

3) I would rather be friends. But friendzone is a different thing.

1. You sound like you're whining about being friends.

2. How is it slower?

3. How so? Getting 'friendzoned' is just being told they only want to be friends. I don't see the difference.
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Postby Dutch Afrika » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:47 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Dutch Afrika wrote:1) Waaaat. I make friendship look awful?

2) Of course it does. Friendzone is just the slower form. I would rather be told straight-forward.

3) I would rather be friends. But friendzone is a different thing.

1. You sound like you're whining about being friends.

2. How is it slower?

3. How so? Getting 'friendzoned' is just being told they only want to be friends. I don't see the difference.

1) Oh, well, guess I do. But I am not. I am just whining about the whole friendzone thing. Will explain later.

3) Oh, friendzone is the state where said female knows you like her, but instead of rejecting you in the preferable straight way, tells you you want to be friends. When you don't want that in the first place.

2) Basically, it leaves you a small window of hope open. And when you are friendzoned for the first few times, you can't really get it. My experience and perception.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:50 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:He is saying that he is owed a relationship because he's not an obvious douche. Whether or not he is actually a douche is immaterial. On a number of occasions I've been interested in a girl that wasn't interested in me, I have never been "friend-zoned" though because I've never felt I was owed a relationship.

They never said anyone owed them anything.

How did you reach that conclusion?

Because if they didn't expect the object of their desire to be obligated to have a relationship with them they'd just move on rather than complaining about how it's totally unfair that the person they're interested in doesn't feel the same way about them (i.e. friend-zoned).
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Postby TheSwayingForrest » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:50 pm

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Postby Rocopurr » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:51 pm

Dutch Afrika wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:1. You sound like you're whining about being friends.

2. How is it slower?

3. How so? Getting 'friendzoned' is just being told they only want to be friends. I don't see the difference.

1) Oh, well, guess I do. But I am not. I am just whining about the whole friendzone thing. Will explain later.

3) Oh, friendzone is the state where said female knows you like her, but instead of rejecting you in the preferable straight way, tells you you want to be friends. When you don't want that in the first place.

2) Basically, it leaves you a small window of hope open. And when you are friendzoned for the first few times, you can't really get it. My experience and perception.

2. That is rejection in a straight way. "I just want to be friends." You were their friend first, made a move, they say they want to be just friends. I don't see what's wrong with that.
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Postby Condunum » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:53 pm

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Condunum wrote:Yeah, no. Unrequited love is unrequited love.


Good thing that's not all I said. Quote, "The status of unrequited love from someone who wishes to be friends with you is a real status. Hence, friend zone."


The friend zone is a term that implies being confined to a specific type of relationship, regardless of feelings. It's an attempt to make the lack of a relationship the fault of the person who doesn't want the relationship, and not just how it is.


Bollocks. Instead of projecting what you want it to be, how about you actually pay attention to how people use it? More people than not use the term simple to mean "friends with someone you want to date", without any intention of acuusing the other party of having done something wrong.


The friend-zone is just a recent concept to explain away the inability to get with a single individual, instead of maturing and moving on.


"Maturing and moving on". As if it's that simple. And people say I'm dismissive of emotions.

I've already made repeated explanations of my operating definition of friend zone. The key modifier int he term is the use of the word zone.

I am not dismissive of emotions, but go ahead and just to whatever assumptions you want off of a single post.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:53 pm

Dutch Afrika wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:You really make friendship out to be an awful thing. Yeah, it sucks to get rejected, but you'll most likely get over it and then just be happy friends. Even if you don't, wouldn't you rather be friends than enemies or nothing at all?

1) Waaaat. I make friendship look awful?.

Everyone who complains about "the friend-zone" is making friendship out to be an awful thing.
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Postby Dutch Afrika » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:54 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Dutch Afrika wrote:1) Oh, well, guess I do. But I am not. I am just whining about the whole friendzone thing. Will explain later.

3) Oh, friendzone is the state where said female knows you like her, but instead of rejecting you in the preferable straight way, tells you you want to be friends. When you don't want that in the first place.

2) Basically, it leaves you a small window of hope open. And when you are friendzoned for the first few times, you can't really get it. My experience and perception.

2. That is rejection in a straight way. "I just want to be friends." You were their friend first, made a move, they say they want to be just friends. I don't see what's wrong with that.

2) It's the WAY! I know it might sound stupid, but that's it. Friendzone happens after some time, when you haven't been rejected, yet. And it's not straightforward. It's more like "I like you as a friend" rather than "I just want to be friends".
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Postby Dutch Afrika » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:55 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Dutch Afrika wrote:1) Waaaat. I make friendship look awful?.

Everyone who complains about "the friend-zone" is making friendship out to be an awful thing.

Nooo?
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:55 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Dutch Afrika wrote:1) Oh, well, guess I do. But I am not. I am just whining about the whole friendzone thing. Will explain later.

3) Oh, friendzone is the state where said female knows you like her, but instead of rejecting you in the preferable straight way, tells you you want to be friends. When you don't want that in the first place.

2) Basically, it leaves you a small window of hope open. And when you are friendzoned for the first few times, you can't really get it. My experience and perception.

2. That is rejection in a straight way. "I just want to be friends." You were their friend first, made a move, they say they want to be just friends. I don't see what's wrong with that.

Because he's owed a relationship.
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Postby Dutch Afrika » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:55 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:2. That is rejection in a straight way. "I just want to be friends." You were their friend first, made a move, they say they want to be just friends. I don't see what's wrong with that.

Because he's owed a relationship.
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I never said that.......
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Postby Republic of Ignus » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:56 pm

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Postby Rocopurr » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:56 pm

Dutch Afrika wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:2. That is rejection in a straight way. "I just want to be friends." You were their friend first, made a move, they say they want to be just friends. I don't see what's wrong with that.

2) It's the WAY! I know it might sound stupid, but that's it. Friendzone happens after some time, when you haven't been rejected, yet. And it's not straightforward. It's more like "I like you as a friend" rather than "I just want to be friends".

I don't see what you're saying. I like you as a friend and I just want to be friends mean the same thing: They want to be friends, not partners. It's straightforward.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:58 pm

Dutch Afrika wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Because he's owed a relationship.
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I never said that.......

Not in those specific words, but yeah you really have.
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Postby Rocopurr » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:59 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:2. That is rejection in a straight way. "I just want to be friends." You were their friend first, made a move, they say they want to be just friends. I don't see what's wrong with that.

Because he's owed a relationship.
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Postby Dutch Afrika » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:00 pm

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Dutch Afrika wrote:I never said that.......

Not in those specific words, but yeah you really have.

No. I said that the in the state of the friendzone, lets say "Boy 1" isn't much interested in being friends with "Girl 2" but doesn't want to break the nice relations they have. Or at least, I tried to.
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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:10 pm

The Friend Zone exists for men, women, non-genders, all genders, and bigenders, and straight and gay.

I have been on both ends of the Friend Zone, too, and the social stigma that goes with it is completely stupid.

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Postby Duvniask » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:11 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Duvniask wrote:They never said anyone owed them anything.

How did you reach that conclusion?

Because if they didn't expect the object of their desire to be obligated to have a relationship with them they'd just move on rather than complaining about how it's totally unfair that the person they're interested in doesn't feel the same way about them (i.e. friend-zoned).

I fail to see how they "complained about it being totally unfair".

They only said this, nothing more. It's merely recognizing that they were experiencing unrequited love.
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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:14 pm

Rocopurr wrote:2. That is rejection in a straight way. "I just want to be friends." You were their friend first, made a move, they say they want to be just friends. I don't see what's wrong with that.

There is nothing wrong with it, though it can hurt. Right now, I am clarifying that I do not think anybody is entitled to a relationship. Going on, though.

Sometimes, you legitimately love someobody and they don't feel that way towards you and it sucks, but they still enjoy your company, thus creating the zone where they wish to maintain friendship, AKA, the "Friend Zone". This place can and will hurt if it is with someone you thought you loved/actually loved.

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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:15 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Duvniask wrote:They never said anyone owed them anything.

How did you reach that conclusion?

Because if they didn't expect the object of their desire to be obligated to have a relationship with them they'd just move on rather than complaining about how it's totally unfair that the person they're interested in doesn't feel the same way about them (i.e. friend-zoned).

So it is bad not to be happy about feeling for someone and not having that feeling returned?

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Postby The Merchant Republics » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:33 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Because if they didn't expect the object of their desire to be obligated to have a relationship with them they'd just move on rather than complaining about how it's totally unfair that the person they're interested in doesn't feel the same way about them (i.e. friend-zoned).

So it is bad not to be happy about feeling for someone and not having that feeling returned?


It's bad at the very least to obsess over it.
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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:34 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:So it is bad not to be happy about feeling for someone and not having that feeling returned?


It's bad at the very least to obsess over it.

Yes, but the occasional "God damn this sucks" isn't bad.

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Postby Zottistan » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:06 pm

Of course the friend zone exists, although it's irritating as fuck when people use it as an excuse to whine about being alone.
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Postby Anollasia » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:15 pm

It exists.

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Postby The Democratic States of Khazakia » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:18 pm

The "friend zone" is a Femalian term for "the place where a perfectly fine guy is nicely rejected into after asking a girl to be his girlfriend"
The "friend zone" is an Male term for a mythical hangout in SoCal.
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