White History Month.

[Ethel mermania]

Oh please, the main reason Europeans have come to be as powerful as they are now is because a particularly assholish one got lost, stumbled upon a different continent and set the tone for centuries of filthy invaders from Europe crippling nations

The United States didn't amount to much until WWII and had little impact on the rest of the world till WWI.

By which time the European civilization has long been dominant.

And if America hadn't been discovered, the modern equivalent of United States would simply be elsewhere.

james monroe, commodore perry, and teddy roosevelt would like a word.

clearly you need to study up on your white history

[Mkuki]

Oh please, the main reason Europeans have come to be as powerful as they are now is because a particularly assholish one got lost, stumbled upon a different continent and set the tone for centuries of filthy invaders from Europe crippling nations

The United States didn't amount to much until WWII and had little impact on the rest of the world till WWI.

By which time the European civilization has long been dominant.

And if America hadn't been discovered, the modern equivalent of United States would simply be elsewhere.

You must've missed the part where the United States dominated the majority of the world's industry for a ninety-year (or so) timespan.

[The USOT]

well....

i areas where whites are not the predominate culture, like asia, africa, or south america, it might make some sense.

but in europe. austrtalia, or the US, no point.

Why would a month where non euro-american history is brought to the masses be irrelevant from white predominate countries? Did we stop having culture influenced through international relations all of a sudden?

[Ethel mermania]

well....

i areas where whites are not the predominate culture, like asia, africa, or south america, it might make some sense.

but in europe. austrtalia, or the US, no point.

Why would a month where non euro-american history is brought to the masses be irrelevant from white predominate countries? Did we stop having culture influenced through international relations all of a sudden?

I do not understand your point. could you rephrase it?

[Byzantium Imperial]

Why would a month where non euro-american history is brought to the masses be irrelevant from white predominate countries? Did we stop having culture influenced through international relations all of a sudden?

I do not understand your point. could you rephrase it?

He means in a world where white culture and non white culture mix on a daily basis, how could white culture be irrelevant to those in non white areas? We are all globally connected at this point.

[Olthar]

Every month is whire history month.

Whire history? What is the history of these whires?

I'm on a phone. Hitting the right keys is difficult.

[Vault 1]

james monroe, commodore perry, and teddy roosevelt would like a word.
clearly you need to study up on your white history

I have - which is why I wrote what I did.
The United States had little impact on the rest of the world till WWI.

It took WWI for US to become a key global political and military force, and it held a position of dominance between WWII and end of the century, which has since been on a slow but steady decline.

Far far later than it took for the White civilization to establish its dominance over the world.

[Byzantium Imperial]

james monroe, commodore perry, and teddy roosevelt would like a word.
clearly you need to study up on your white history

I have - which is why I wrote what I did.
The United States had little impact on the rest of the world till WWI.

Stopping you right there. The United States was already the biggest economy in the world by 1900, and in 1905 was more then influential enough to broker a piece between the Japanese and the Russians, in addition to wielding the most influence in the Americas.

[Vault 1]

Stopping you right there. The United States was already the biggest economy in the world by 1900, and in 1905 was more then influential enough to broker a piece between the Japanese and the Russians, in addition to wielding the most influence in the Americas.

In the Americas, where there wasn't much competition, but not in Eurasia.

The US did involve itself in a few affairs - as did everyone else - but remained relatively isolationist, with almost none of its power projected at the Eurasian continent. Involvement in WWI changed that and turned US from "these ex-colonies are doing really well" into Western World's go-to country. Until then this position still rested with old powers.

[The USOT]

Why would a month where non euro-american history is brought to the masses be irrelevant from white predominate countries? Did we stop having culture influenced through international relations all of a sudden?

I do not understand your point. could you rephrase it?

White culture is not homogenous. Bearing that in mind and considering the euro-american historical bias strongly prevelant in society, why should we not have events/occasions to bring public awareness to the non euro-american part of our history?

[Ethel mermania]

I do not understand your point. could you rephrase it?

White culture is not homogenous. Bearing that in mind and considering the euro-american historical bias strongly prevelant in society, why should we not have events/occasions to bring public awareness to the non euro-american part of our history?

i think you missed my point, i have no problem with black history month, hispanic history, african history month, asian history month. I think it would be broading for american kids. White history month in the states is pointless.

I was reffering to non white area's of the world, that would benifet from learning something about european and american history in stead of just seeing coca cola and big macs as what is america

[Ethel mermania]

james monroe, commodore perry, and teddy roosevelt would like a word.
clearly you need to study up on your white history

I have - which is why I wrote what I did.
The United States had little impact on the rest of the world till WWI.

It took WWI for US to become a key global political and military force, and it held a position of dominance between WWII and end of the century, which has since been on a slow but steady decline.

Far far later than it took for the White civilization to establish its dominance over the world.

again you havent, tell that to the japanese when perry went there, are you saying his arrival in japan had no direct consequences for the japanese people?

tell that to the philopeano's when the spanish american war ended, and they became an american protectorate?

[The USOT]

White culture is not homogenous. Bearing that in mind and considering the euro-american historical bias strongly prevelant in society, why should we not have events/occasions to bring public awareness to the non euro-american part of our history?

i think you missed my point, i have no problem with black history month, hispanic history, african history month, asian history month. I think it would be broading for american kids. White history month in the states is pointless.

I was reffering to non white area's of the world, that would benifet from learning something about european and american history in stead of just seeing coca cola and big macs as what is america

Ah my apologies I must have misread.

And also I strongly agree!

[Olthar]

I was reffering to non white area's of the world, that would benifet from learning something about european and american history in stead of just seeing coca cola and big macs as what is america

Well of course America isn't just Coca-cola and Big Macs. It's also apple pies, baseball, and ruthlessly exterminating brown people. Duh.

[Vault 1]

again you havent, tell that to the japanese when perry went there, are you saying his arrival in japan had no direct consequences for the japanese people?

It had consequences for the Japanese people, which at the time were barely even considered a people by the rest of the world.


I'll repeat the argument I was debunking:

Oh please, the main reason Europeans have come to be as powerful as they are now is because a particularly assholish one got lost, stumbled upon a different continent ...

While the fact is, US only became a key part of the Western Civilization around WWI, by which time Europeans were already as powerful as it gets in world politics. It was not required for Western Civilization's dominance.

[Olivaero]

I have - which is why I wrote what I did.
The United States had little impact on the rest of the world till WWI.

It took WWI for US to become a key global political and military force, and it held a position of dominance between WWII and end of the century, which has since been on a slow but steady decline.

Far far later than it took for the White civilization to establish its dominance over the world.

again you havent, tell that to the japanese when perry went there, are you saying his arrival in japan had no direct consequences for the japanese people?

tell that to the philopeano's when the spanish american war ended, and they became an american protectorate?

I think it would of been better phrased "relatively little impact on the world before WW2 compared to the super power of the era" the US had influence in specific places and was more powerful than some European countries but compared to the likes of France and Britain it was less influential.

[The Tundra]

I was reffering to non white area's of the world, that would benifet from learning something about european and american history in stead of just seeing coca cola and big macs as what is america

Well of course America isn't just Coca-cola and Big Macs. It's also apple pies, baseball, and ruthlessly exterminating brown people. Duh.

apple pie and exterminating brown people was done first and better by the Europeans

[Ayreonia]

I was reffering to non white area's of the world, that would benifet from learning something about european and american history in stead of just seeing coca cola and big macs as what is america

Well of course America isn't just Coca-cola and Big Macs. It's also apple pies, baseball, and ruthlessly exterminating brown people. Duh.

Don't forget gerns.

[Olivaero]

I was reffering to non white area's of the world, that would benifet from learning something about european and american history in stead of just seeing coca cola and big macs as what is america

Well of course America isn't just Coca-cola and Big Macs. It's also apple pies, baseball, and ruthlessly exterminating brown people. Duh.

Yeah those are absolutely America's only contributions to the world.

[Tlaceceyaya]

If teachers are not teaching properly, you replace the teacher. You don't have "x history month".

Further more, the complaint about "eurocentrism" I find to be a silly complaint. As most history classes either are (1) the history of your own nation, or (2) global history, of course it's going to be eurocentric. What else would you expect it to be? They're teaching history on a grand scale. European cultue and philosophy has had more of a global political impact than any other culture. Further more, just like how they have in-depth studies for your own country of origin, taking foreign language classes often coincide with cultural studies as well. It's not as if they don't teach this stuff. They just force what they think is important, and leave open what might interest you.

Oh please, the main reason Europeans have come to be as powerful as they are now is because a particularly assholish one got lost, stumbled upon a different continent and set the tone for centuries of filthy invaders from Europe crippling nations with diseases enabling them to plunder their wealth, this plunder gave them the edge to then subjugate Africa and the rest of the world. Still, African, Asian and Native American cultures have comparable marks to that of Europe, and Europe would be much worse off without them.

The assholish one wasn't some miraculous man.
He was just a total dickhead who happened to be first. Others would have been first had he not been.

[Vazdania]

Whire history? What is the history of these whires?

I'm on a phone. Hitting the right keys is difficult.

I know that feel.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

I would like to get everyones opionon on creating a White History Month.

I think we should have one, I mean Black people have Black History Month.


Why doesnt Whitey get there own History month? I think we should, I mean Blacks got there own History Month.

Why doesnt Whitey get there own college fund? Blacks got a college fund, why not whites?

Were are the good White Historical Colleges? Any advice anyone? It would be nice to go to a histrocially white college.

When will whitey get in on Affirmitive action? We have been discriminated against to. Why cant we get the afrimitive action?

When will people stop feeding the trolls? *** Warned *** for said trolling.

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[Wind in the Willows]

Were are the good White Historical Colleges? Any advice anyone? It would be nice to go to a histrocially white college.

I don't believe there should any white or black colleges, blacks are always complaining about segregation, why the fuck do they want their own colleges? They are segregating themselves.

When will whitey get in on Affirmitive action? We have been discriminated against to. Why cant we get the afrimitive action?

I think it should be abolished completely, they should hire by skill and qualification level, not ethnic origin or religion, or anything like that.

Why doesnt Whitey get there own college fund? Blacks got a college fund, why not whites?

Everyone should pay for there own college funds themselves, nobody should have it provided to them just because they are black or white, or whatever.

[Aurora Novus]

If teachers are not teaching properly, you replace the teacher. You don't have "x history month".

Further more, the complaint about "eurocentrism" I find to be a silly complaint. As most history classes either are (1) the history of your own nation, or (2) global history, of course it's going to be eurocentric. What else would you expect it to be? They're teaching history on a grand scale. European cultue and philosophy has had more of a global political impact than any other culture. Further more, just like how they have in-depth studies for your own country of origin, taking foreign language classes often coincide with cultural studies as well. It's not as if they don't teach this stuff. They just force what they think is important, and leave open what might interest you.

Oh please, the main reason Europeans have come to be as powerful as they are now is because a particularly assholish one got lost, stumbled upon a different continent and set the tone for centuries of filthy invaders from Europe crippling nations with diseases enabling them to plunder their wealth, this plunder gave them the edge to then subjugate Africa and the rest of the world. Still, African, Asian and Native American cultures have comparable marks to that of Europe, and Europe would be much worse off without them.

The fact that European culture spread through largely underhanded means does nothing to refute my claim. I don't give a toss how sad or unfortunate it may be, it's still reality.