Best Presidents of the U.S.

by **Agymnum** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:36 pm

Genesis Fifteen wrote:FDR, Teddy, and Eisenhower.

I think the better question here was:

Teddy, the Bear Wrestler, or FDR, American Badass?

Who was better?

by **Americanada** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:37 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:While I have no fucking idea of who Grant was, and Nixon was presented to me in a very negative light, if what I learned in school makes some sense I totally approve of the Democratic list.

Richard Nixon was something of a mixed bag in terms of Presidents. There was racism, corruption, and lengthening the Vietnam War. However, I learned in college that he was rather good at foreign policy in terms of manipulation by intentionally making the communist powers think he was insane and turning China into a relatively friendly partner who could cause problems for the Soviet Union. He also had some good regulatory law, doing something nice by signing OSHA into law and creating the EPA.

He was definitely nowhere close to being one of our best presidents, but he was not a bad one either, however horrible a person he was and what it says about the Presidency that a President's quality is not directly related to how good a person he was.

Hippostania wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Nixon was presented to me in a very negative light

And for a good reason: He was one of the worst American presidents of the 20th century.

A good rule of thumb is that a condemnation of something by Hippostania means it is worth consideration.

by **Potenco** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:48 pm

1) Abraham Lincoln
2) William Mckinley
3) Dwight D. Eisenhower
4) George H.W. Bush
5) Richard Nixon

Democrat:
1) Franklin Delano Roosevelt
2) Lyndon Baines Johnson
3) Barack Obama
4) Harry S. Truman
5) Grover Clevland

by **Thafoo** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:52 pm

Potenco wrote:5) Richard Nixon

look you made a funny

by **Bottle** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:54 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Genesis Fifteen wrote:FDR, Teddy, and Eisenhower.

I think the better question here was:

Teddy, the Bear Wrestler, or FDR, American Badass?

Who was better?

Tough call:

by **Lesbia** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:01 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Densaner wrote:I'm sick of these. Regardless of party labels, term of office or any other categorisation that can be thought of, all American Presidents were utterly appalling.

Too edgy for me.

Hey Joe, who's your pick for 2016?

by **Lesbia** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:01 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Potenco wrote:5) Richard Nixon

look you made a funny

Potenco wrote:3) Barack Obama

And even funnier.

by **Thafoo** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:02 pm

Lesbia wrote:
Thafoo wrote:look you made a funny

Potenco wrote:3) Barack Obama

And even funnier.

Indeed. Let's grab popcorn and watch.

by **Arumdaum** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:18 pm

FDR and Teddy were relatively nice in comparison to their contemporaries.

by **Arkinesia** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:55 pm

New Corenea wrote:Allen West are also hard descisions

Allan West? You mean the guy who claimed voter fraud because he lost, and said that the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated Washington, DC? That nutcase?

by **IshCong** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:20 pm

Uieurnthlaal wrote:
IshCong wrote:
So, pretty much all of the Presidents are great Presidents then.

Just look at Helicorp's sig. There's no point bothering to discuss with him.

*Shrugs*
Call me a masochist. Besides, some people on this forum have the opinions they do because they're young and haven't really experienced anything else. Some people can eventually learn.

by **Lesbia** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:32 pm

More on the topic, my top two Democrats for 2016 are Evan Bayh and Andrew Cuomo, Republicans are Rand Paul and Paul Ryan.

by **Meryuma** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:39 pm

Hippostania wrote:1) Andrew Jackson

One of the worst in history. Color me unsurprised you chose him.

by **TaQud** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:46 pm

Meryuma wrote:
Hippostania wrote:1) Andrew Jackson

One of the worst in history. Color me unsurprised you chose him.

choosing him in the top 5 or number 1 of the 5?

by **Yumyumsuppertime** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:49 pm

Why does Kennedy get a place in so many lists? He was charming enough, sure, but he dragged his feet on civil rights despite giving it lip service, and started the American involvement in Vietnam

by **Page** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:52 pm

New Corenea wrote:Marco Rubio and Allen West are also hard descisions

May I ask, out of curiosity, what is so hard about making a decision in regards to a man who is such a virulent homophobe that he'd sabatoge immigration reform if undocumented people with same-sex partners were extended similar protections as a married people, and a paranoid war criminal?

by **Occupied Deutschland** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:53 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Why does Kennedy get a place in so many lists? He was charming enough, sure, but he dragged his feet on civil rights despite giving it lip service, and started the American involvement in Vietnam

Because magic bullets also cast spells of fame.

Also, he shagged Marilyn Monroe.

by **Zurkerx** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:56 pm

Republican Presidents:
1. Abraham Lincoln
2. Calvin Coolidge
3. Ronald Reagan
4. Dwight D Eisenhower

Democratic Presidents:
1. John F. Kennedy
2. James Knox Polk
3. Harry S. Truman
4.Grover Cleveland

I really can't find a fifth one I like.

by **Thafoo** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:57 pm

Adam West > Allen West

by **America Libertaria** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:03 pm

Republican:
1. Ronald Reagan (he is my man)
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. Richard Nixon
4. Dwight D. Eisenhower
5. Calvin Coolidge

Democrat:
1. Bill Clinton
2. JFK
3. N/A
4. N/A
5. N/A

by **TaQud** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:23 pm

Zurkerx wrote:I really can't find a fifth one I like.

not even Andrew Jackson or FDR?

by **Yumyumsuppertime** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:27 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Why does Kennedy get a place in so many lists? He was charming enough, sure, but he dragged his feet on civil rights despite giving it lip service, and started the American involvement in Vietnam

Because magic bullets also cast spells of fame.

Also, he shagged Marilyn Monroe.

So did the cameraman on "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes", and he didn't get any points for it.

by **Yumyumsuppertime** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:28 pm

Thafoo wrote:Adam West > Allen West

Adam West > Kanye West
Adam West > Mae West
Adam West > How The West Was Won

by **New Corenea** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:29 pm

Delete that immediately! People report this sicko

by **New Corenea** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:35 pm

How does one remove this sick content???

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