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Zavea
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Postby Zavea » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:43 pm

they're not going to outfox me
is it pronounced zay-vee-uh or zuh-vay-uh? i can't decide

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Postby Risottia » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:20 am

Bezombia wrote:http://gawker.com/can-you-spot-a-fake-fox-news-commenter-1449129935

Fox News, like its president Roger Ailes, is sensitive about its reputation. So sensitive, according to NPR’s David Folkenflik, that in the late aughts, as part of a new, more muscular PR strategy, the channel instructed its staff to write thousands of pro-Fox comments on websites large and small, wherever anything slightly anti-Fox bubbled up. In his new book Murdoch’s World, about the Australian media titan Rupert Murdoch, Folkenflik reports:

Fox PR staffers were expected to counter not just negative and even neutral blog postings but the anti-Fox comments beneath them. One former staffer recalled using twenty different aliases to post pro-Fox rants. Another had one hundred. [...] Old laptops were distributed for these cyber operations.

One of the targeted sites, we are reliably told, was Gawker itself, along with niche industry sites like TVNewser, Inside Cable News, and FishbowlDC. “Even blogs with minor followings were reviewed to ensure no claim went unchecked,” Folkenflik later explains.


The channel’s painstaking management of online criticism tracks closely with its executives’ efforts to clean up their own Internet presences. For example, Irena Briganti, the network’s senior vice president of media relations, hired a shady Google-gaming company in order to bury negative stories about her brutal PR tactics.

We’re curious, though: What were these fake commenters writing, exactly? Under so much pressure to blanket the Internet with pro-Fox propaganda, they couldn’t have been that intelligent or effective.


This is one of the strangest articles I've ever seen.
So apparently Fox set up an "anti-anti-fox campaign" across the internet, literally paying people to argue. Can anyone here from 2007-2010 attest to a rather large number of seemingly pro-Fox people?
Anyway, what do you think of this, NSG? It seems like this might backfire rather hard, what with them tarnishing their reputation by trying to improve their reputation.

Also, inb4foxnewsagentsITT


I wonder if I can get paid by Fox to be an anti-anti-Fox and be so much vehemently anti-anti-Fox that the effect would actually be anti-anti-anti-Fox.
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Postby Luveria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:22 am

Risottia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:http://gawker.com/can-you-spot-a-fake-fox-news-commenter-1449129935



This is one of the strangest articles I've ever seen.
So apparently Fox set up an "anti-anti-fox campaign" across the internet, literally paying people to argue. Can anyone here from 2007-2010 attest to a rather large number of seemingly pro-Fox people?
Anyway, what do you think of this, NSG? It seems like this might backfire rather hard, what with them tarnishing their reputation by trying to improve their reputation.

Also, inb4foxnewsagentsITT


I wonder if I can get paid by Fox to be an anti-anti-Fox and be so much vehemently anti-anti-Fox that the effect would actually be anti-anti-anti-Fox.


Yes, but then you might get fired.

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Postby Risottia » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:24 am

Luveria wrote:
Risottia wrote:
I wonder if I can get paid by Fox to be an anti-anti-Fox and be so much vehemently anti-anti-Fox that the effect would actually be anti-anti-anti-Fox.


Yes, but then you might get fired.


I bet that having a "got fired by Faux News for not licking their boots enough" would be a nice bonus if I asked for a job from some other TV channels.
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Postby Luveria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:25 am

Really, I'd love to be an online anti-anti-Fox propagandist. It's a dream job. I would get to work from home, post on NS constantly, listen to black metal all day and night, and all I have to do is post on various news websites and forums whenever someone starts saying untrue things about Fox.

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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:31 am

Luveria wrote:Really, I'd love to be an online anti-anti-Fox propagandist. It's a dream job. I would get to work from home, post on NS constantly, listen to black metal all day and night, and all I have to do is post on various news websites and forums whenever someone starts saying untrue things about Fox.


No black metal, you would have to watch Fox News 24/7.
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Postby Luveria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:32 am

L Ron Cupboard wrote:
Luveria wrote:Really, I'd love to be an online anti-anti-Fox propagandist. It's a dream job. I would get to work from home, post on NS constantly, listen to black metal all day and night, and all I have to do is post on various news websites and forums whenever someone starts saying untrue things about Fox.


No black metal, you would have to watch Fox News 24/7.


Nuh. I only have to watch forums and then puppetspam with my twenty deep-cover puppets to counter anti-Fox posts.

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Postby Luveria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:37 am

Zavea wrote:they're not going to outfox me


They did outfox you. You didn't know until now that fox had deep-cover anti-anti-Fox operatives active in every corner of the internet.

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Postby Tyriece » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:42 am

SPOILER ALERT every company dose this. This is not really news and I dout they would even try to hide this. Seriously if anyone did not know about this... I do not know what to tell them. This is like those ad's that say McDonald's is bad for you, leaving out the part that so is every other fast food corporation.
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Postby Luveria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:45 am

Tyriece wrote:SPOILER ALERT every company dose this. This is not really news and I dout they would even try to hide this. Seriously if anyone did not know about this... I do not know what to tell them. This is like those ad's that say McDonald's is bad for you, leaving out the part that so is every other fast food corporation.


Every corporation has a legion of anti-antis?

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Postby Zavea » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:46 am

Luveria wrote:
Zavea wrote:they're not going to outfox me


They did outfox you. You didn't know until now that fox had deep-cover anti-anti-Fox operatives active in every corner of the internet.


can you give me any reason to believe that you're not an anti-anti-fox operator running disinfo?
is it pronounced zay-vee-uh or zuh-vay-uh? i can't decide

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Postby Tyriece » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:47 am

Luveria wrote:
Tyriece wrote:SPOILER ALERT every company dose this. This is not really news and I dout they would even try to hide this. Seriously if anyone did not know about this... I do not know what to tell them. This is like those ad's that say McDonald's is bad for you, leaving out the part that so is every other fast food corporation.


Every corporation has a legion of anti-antis?


Yes
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Postby Luveria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:49 am

Zavea wrote:
Luveria wrote:
They did outfox you. You didn't know until now that fox had deep-cover anti-anti-Fox operatives active in every corner of the internet.


can you give me any reason to believe that you're not an anti-anti-fox operator running disinfo?


I could give you many reasons. Why would an anti-anti-Fox operative be pro-LGBT, hmm?

Tyriece wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Every corporation has a legion of anti-antis?


Yes


To this extent? No.
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Postby Zavea » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:51 am

Luveria wrote:
Zavea wrote:
can you give me any reason to believe that you're not an anti-anti-fox operator running disinfo?


I could give you many reasons. Why would an anti-anti-Fox operative be pro-LGBT, hmm?


because fox is the opposite... AND PEOPLE WOULD NEVER EXPECT THE OPPOSITE

the pieces of the puzzle are falling into place
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Postby Tyriece » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:52 am

Luveria wrote:
Zavea wrote:
can you give me any reason to believe that you're not an anti-anti-fox operator running disinfo?


I could give you many reasons. Why would an anti-anti-Fox operative be pro-LGBT, hmm?

Tyriece wrote:
Yes


To this extent? No.


Look it up, it is big thing especially among video game company's.
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Postby Luveria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:53 am

Zavea wrote:
Luveria wrote:
I could give you many reasons. Why would an anti-anti-Fox operative be pro-LGBT, hmm?


because fox is the opposite... AND PEOPLE WOULD NEVER EXPECT THE OPPOSITE

the pieces of the puzzle are falling into place


Would an anti-anti-Fox operative be a liberal? :eyebrow:

Eventually you're going to have to accept that I'm doing this by my own free will and not because anyone is paying me to do it. There is no way Fox would associate with their ideological enemy such as me, especially not paying me to say nice things about them.
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Postby Luveria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:53 am

Tyriece wrote:
Luveria wrote:
I could give you many reasons. Why would an anti-anti-Fox operative be pro-LGBT, hmm?



To this extent? No.


Look it up, it is big thing especially among video game company's.


EA. :p

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Postby Zavea » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:57 am

Luveria wrote:
Zavea wrote:
because fox is the opposite... AND PEOPLE WOULD NEVER EXPECT THE OPPOSITE

the pieces of the puzzle are falling into place


Would an anti-anti-Fox operative be a liberal? :eyebrow:

Eventually you're going to have to accept that I'm doing this by my own free will and not because anyone is paying me to do it. There is no way Fox would associate with their ideological enemy such as me, especially not paying me to say nice things about them.


but you can't prove that

thus the court finds the defendant guilty on the charge of high treason against the internet
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Postby Tyriece » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:59 am

Luveria wrote:
Tyriece wrote:
Look it up, it is big thing especially among video game company's.


EA. :p


EA and Blizzard are one of the biggest ones to start doing this, along with Google and Verizon
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Postby Luveria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:00 am

Zavea wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Would an anti-anti-Fox operative be a liberal? :eyebrow:

Eventually you're going to have to accept that I'm doing this by my own free will and not because anyone is paying me to do it. There is no way Fox would associate with their ideological enemy such as me, especially not paying me to say nice things about them.


but you can't prove that

thus the court finds the defendant guilty on the charge of high treason against the internet


Fox wouldn't hire Canadians for this job. Why would they do that?

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Postby Luveria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:00 am

Tyriece wrote:
Luveria wrote:
EA. :p


EA and Blizzard are one of the biggest ones to start doing this, along with Google and Verizon


I've read Blizzard is bad about it too, but not as much as EA.

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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:12 am

Well this begs the question...
Emporer Pudu wrote:So where are the pro-Fox accounts on NationStates?

The witch hunt begins. Bring your pitchforks and finest flaring torches.

New Octopucta wrote:I've never understood this. Why is the default reaction to criticism in the corporate world to try to suppress it rather than trying to use it to improve the company?

Well I think Max barry could help you out there in regard to corporate function. I'm not that well read up on it myself, I mean I've read some of Max's books but that was over 6 months ago or something I just have a vague memory of how horrible those places are described.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:14 am

Risottia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:http://gawker.com/can-you-spot-a-fake-fox-news-commenter-1449129935



This is one of the strangest articles I've ever seen.
So apparently Fox set up an "anti-anti-fox campaign" across the internet, literally paying people to argue. Can anyone here from 2007-2010 attest to a rather large number of seemingly pro-Fox people?
Anyway, what do you think of this, NSG? It seems like this might backfire rather hard, what with them tarnishing their reputation by trying to improve their reputation.

Also, inb4foxnewsagentsITT


I wonder if I can get paid by Fox to be an anti-anti-Fox and be so much vehemently anti-anti-Fox that the effect would actually be anti-anti-anti-Fox.

I suppose it's possible there's other media outlets who have their own drones who spout "copy-pasted anti-other station rants" if Fox has them to support it's own weird sort of groupthink.
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Postby Luveria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:18 am

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Well this begs the question...
Emporer Pudu wrote:So where are the pro-Fox accounts on NationStates?

The witch hunt begins. Bring your pitchforks and finest flaring torches.


Let the Witch Fox Hunt begin.

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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:31 am

Explains Hippo then.
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