Abortion Denied

[Kylistan]

Well obviously if the girl is having unprotected sex at 16 her future was probably pretty limited to begin with...

How do you know it was unprotected sex?

Even if it was protected 16 year olds shouldn't be having sex at all!

[Oneracon]

How do you know it was unprotected sex?

Even if it was protected 16 year olds shouldn't be having sex at all!

That is beside the point.

[Nervium]

Actually no, they didn't, they destroyed a girl's life and future.

Well obviously if the girl is having unprotected sex at 16 her future was probably pretty limited to begin with...

Well, that's a horrible thing to say.

[Blakk Metal]

My god, this is still alive? I would have thought this thread would self-destruct by now.

As it happens, threads on abortion rank number 3 on Top Bait Topics

What the first two?

[Republic of Greater America]

...QWERTY. In all seriousness, the girl should not be forced to raise the baby, but in accordance to the law, she should give birth, but then put it up for adoption. A better is why the hell was she sleeping around as a 15 year old, with ultra-religious parents in addition to that?

Sleeping around?
You might want to google that, because you clearly don't know what it means.

Urban Dictionary is your friend, and well, silly me. What I meant was that she is a whore and must be stoned, and then burned with her ashes being fed to pigs she is well...promiscuous.

[Kylistan]

Well obviously if the girl is having unprotected sex at 16 her future was probably pretty limited to begin with...

Well, that's a horrible thing to say.

Why is it a horrible thing to say? Some people spend their high school years studying as they're supposed to and others are off doing other things as was this girl. Clearly if she had a bright future ahead she would have be studying for her science test rather than having sex.

[Kylistan]

Even if it was protected 16 year olds shouldn't be having sex at all!

That is beside the point.

Why is it beside the point?

[The Shia Califate]

Even if it was protected 16 year olds shouldn't be having sex at all!

That is beside the point.

Actually, I think that *is* the point. The girl was too stupid to realize that sex is how you get pregnant.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Sleeping around?
You might want to google that, because you clearly don't know what it means.

Urban Dictionary is your friend, and well, silly me. What I meant was that she is a whore and must be stoned, and then burned with her ashes being fed to pigs she is well...promiscuous.

Why is she promiscuous? What did she do, but not practice safe sex after being raised by "ultra-religious parents", practice safe sex and get pregnant regardless or be coerced into one of the two other options?

[Pandeeria]

Well, that's a horrible thing to say.

Why is it a horrible thing to say? Some people spend their high school years studying as they're supposed to and others are off doing other things as was this girl. Clearly if she had a bright future ahead she would have be studying for her science test rather than having sex.

Everyone makes mistakes. Should I think you would have a horrible future because you spent time with your friends instead of studying?

[Federation of the Seed of Japheth]

"You have to wonder about the logic here... She isn't mature enough enough to choose to have an abortion, but she is mature to be forced into parenthood...
Frankly, I'd say that the reasoning she provides for why she wishes to get an abortion indicate that she is mature enough to make the decision."

I might say the same for the above. I got the impression that the states refusal to grant the girl's wish for an abortion and implied motherhood was not based on 'her' maturity, but as a minor is under the jurisdiction of her foster parents. According to law she had to get their permission for an abortion which she admitted she would not get. So given that she is a minor, and under Nebraska state law she needs here parents (foster parents) permission the state only acceded to the proper authorities (her foster parents). This also begs a further question if she is not mature enough to be a mother, she is obviously not mature enough to engage in an activity that would necessarily result in motherhood. You cannot say she is unqualified to be a mother, but qualified to be perform the preliminary act. If one is too immature to do the time don't do the crime.

[Republic of Greater America]

Urban Dictionary is your friend, and well, silly me. What I meant was that she is a whore and must be stoned, and then burned with her ashes being fed to pigs she is well...promiscuous.

Why is she promiscuous? What did she do, but not practice safe sex after being raised by "ultra-religious parents", practice safe sex and get pregnant regardless or be coerced into one of the two other options?

Maybe she could listen to her parents, keep her legs closed, and as someone else said, study for her science test or something.

[Kylistan]

And you don't seem to care that you are taking away the life of another human being.

A human being that isn't technically even a citizen, likely not even self-aware, and is really just a small chunk of cells.

Believe what you would like but you know as well as I do that those cells are the foundation of human life and when you destroy them you are "taking away a life". And guess what... it isn't a coincidence that murder is "taking away a life".

[The Shia Califate]

Urban Dictionary is your friend, and well, silly me. What I meant was that she is a whore and must be stoned, and then burned with her ashes being fed to pigs she is well...promiscuous.

Why is she promiscuous? What did she do, but not practice safe sex after being raised by "ultra-religious parents", practice safe sex and get pregnant regardless or be coerced into one of the two other options?

Or she could not have had sex. But, you know, that's not a cool thing to do I guess.

[The Shia Califate]

Why is she promiscuous? What did she do, but not practice safe sex after being raised by "ultra-religious parents", practice safe sex and get pregnant regardless or be coerced into one of the two other options?

Maybe she could listen to her parents, keep her legs closed, and as someone else said, study for her science test or something.

Maybe if she had studied her biology this never would've happened.

ha

[Vamtrl]

Yea, all females should wait till they are married to have sex and preferably with a husband chosen by their parents.

[Oneracon]

Why is she promiscuous? What did she do, but not practice safe sex after being raised by "ultra-religious parents", practice safe sex and get pregnant regardless or be coerced into one of the two other options?

Maybe she could listen to her parents, keep her legs closed, and as someone else said, study for her science test or something.

What right do you have to comment on her life like that?!

You don't know her, or what she's been through.

[Kylistan]

Why is it a horrible thing to say? Some people spend their high school years studying as they're supposed to and others are off doing other things as was this girl. Clearly if she had a bright future ahead she would have be studying for her science test rather than having sex.

Everyone makes mistakes. Should I think you would have a horrible future because you spent time with your friends instead of studying?

I agree that everyone makes mistakes, but it is unethical to correct your mistakes through ending the life of another. Every decision has consequences and she should have to deal with the consequences of her mistake without murdering a baby.

[Nervium]

Well, that's a horrible thing to say.

Why is it a horrible thing to say? Some people spend their high school years studying as they're supposed to and others are off doing other things as was this girl. Clearly if she had a bright future ahead she would have be studying for her science test rather than having sex.

Wich is the exact reason why she should have been able to have an abortion in first place.

What kind of world do we live in if we judge people because they may or may not have made a bad dicision.

[Pandeeria]

A human being that isn't technically even a citizen, likely not even self-aware, and is really just a small chunk of cells.

Believe what you would like but you know as well as I do that those cells are the foundation of human life and when you destroy them you are "taking away a life". And guess what... it isn't a coincidence that murder is "taking away a life".

Murder is unlawful killing. Abortion isn't unlawful depending on where you are located.

Also sperm and eggs are the foundation of life. Should we ban masturbation?

[Tlaceceyaya]

Why is she promiscuous? What did she do, but not practice safe sex after being raised by "ultra-religious parents", practice safe sex and get pregnant regardless or be coerced into one of the two other options?

Maybe she could listen to her parents, keep her legs closed, and as someone else said, study for her science test or something.

Maybe you could keep your legs closed, then.
After all, if teenagers can't do things which are enjoyable without your express permission, why are you excused from that?
Everyone knows that all work and no play makes for well-adjusted, mentally stable adults with no problems of any kind.

[Geilinor]

Why is she promiscuous? What did she do, but not practice safe sex after being raised by "ultra-religious parents", practice safe sex and get pregnant regardless or be coerced into one of the two other options?

Or she could not have had sex.

Everyone makes mistakes. Maybe if those right-wing zealots we're calling "parents" allowed the practice of safe sex?

[Geilinor]

Everyone makes mistakes. Should I think you would have a horrible future because you spent time with your friends instead of studying?

I agree that everyone makes mistakes, but it is unethical to correct your mistakes through ending the life of another. Every decision has consequences and she should have to deal with the consequences of her mistake without murdering a baby.

Murder is unlawful killing. Abortion is fully legal.

[The Shia Califate]

Or she could not have had sex.

Everyone makes mistakes. Maybe if those right-wing zealots we're calling "parents" allowed the practice of safe sex?

or she could not have had sex. Why is that so difficult?

[Oneracon]

Everyone makes mistakes. Should I think you would have a horrible future because you spent time with your friends instead of studying?

I agree that everyone makes mistakes, but it is unethical to correct your mistakes through ending the life of another. Every decision has consequences and she should have to deal with the consequences of her mistake without murdering a baby.

Great, because there is no murdering of babies involved in a termination of a pregnancy.