NATION

PASSWORD

Abortion Denied

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

Did the Nebraska Supreme Court make the right decision here or not?

Yes
132
27%
No
327
67%
Myrth
30
6%
 
Total votes : 489

User avatar
Riiser-Larsen
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1117
Founded: Jun 22, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Riiser-Larsen » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:06 pm

Need a name wrote:
Benuty wrote:Not really the state authorities deprivation of a woman's right is hardly something to be in approval of.

I don't think anyone should play God.


You call abortion playing god? Well then what are we doing when we go to war, playing god's bigger angrier brother?
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/home
Fun Quotes:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I'm pretty tired of discussing serious issues in a serious manner with people who are so divorced from reality that the marriage was not only annulled, any historical records or witnesses to the original marriage were drawn, quartered, burnt, and then boiled in acid and served to hogs.

Thafoo wrote:So I guess leaving a negative environmental footprint now makes you a killer?

This just in: all cows are Hitlers. McDonald's releases the Heilburger.

User avatar
Need a Name
Senator
 
Posts: 3594
Founded: Oct 22, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Need a Name » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:07 pm

Riiser-Larsen wrote:
Need a name wrote:I don't think anyone should play God.


You call abortion playing god? Well then what are we doing when we go to war, playing god's bigger angrier brother?

Um, war has nothing to do with this. But I can't debate any longer, I have to leave. Fair well!
I'm a Christian and a Patriot
“Right is Right even if nobody does it. Wrong is wrong even if everybody is wrong about it.”― G.K. Chesterton

"Better to fight for something than live for nothing." -- George S. Patton Jr.

"Do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Let the day's own trouble be sufficient for the day." -- Jesus Christ

For: Christianity, America, NATO, EU, Israel, Effective Education Reform, The US Military, Social Capital, and Compromise
Against: Radical fundamentalism, Militant Atheism, Current US Congress, Ignorance, and ISIS (obviously).

User avatar
Benuty
Post Czar
 
Posts: 36764
Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Benuty » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:08 pm

Riiser-Larsen wrote:
Benuty wrote:Well not entirely as the vanguard of the opposition have yet to appear.


No, he appeared, you just missed him. It was Vazdania.

Vaz is among the lower ranks of the opposition, there are far worse on this site.
Last edited by Hashem 13.8 billion years ago
King of Madness in the Right Wing Discussion Thread. Winner of 2016 Posters Award for Insanity.
Please be aware my posts in NSG, and P2TM are separate.

User avatar
Sun Wukong
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9798
Founded: Oct 16, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:09 pm

Need a name wrote:
Benuty wrote:Not really the state authorities deprivation of a woman's right is hardly something to be in approval of.

I don't think anyone should play God. And that's what America is doing with baby's lives.

Indeed.

And who do we think we are coming up with drugs that selectively kill bacteria? The hubris.
Great Sage, Equal of Heaven.

User avatar
Riiser-Larsen
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1117
Founded: Jun 22, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Riiser-Larsen » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:09 pm

Benuty wrote:
Riiser-Larsen wrote:
No, he appeared, you just missed him. It was Vazdania.

Vaz is among the lower ranks of the opposition, there are far worse on this site.


Well, if there was a vanguard he was it. Besides that, there wasn't anything too impressive.

Let's hope those guys don't come out to play.
Last edited by Riiser-Larsen on Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/home
Fun Quotes:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I'm pretty tired of discussing serious issues in a serious manner with people who are so divorced from reality that the marriage was not only annulled, any historical records or witnesses to the original marriage were drawn, quartered, burnt, and then boiled in acid and served to hogs.

Thafoo wrote:So I guess leaving a negative environmental footprint now makes you a killer?

This just in: all cows are Hitlers. McDonald's releases the Heilburger.

User avatar
Hallistar
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6144
Founded: Nov 21, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Hallistar » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:12 pm

Need a name wrote:
Riiser-Larsen wrote:
You call abortion playing god? Well then what are we doing when we go to war, playing god's bigger angrier brother?

Um, war has nothing to do with this. But I can't debate any longer, I have to leave. Fair well!

War was mentioned because alot of things humans already do could be seen as 'playing god'.

User avatar
Mewtinigrad
Envoy
 
Posts: 350
Founded: Sep 10, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Mewtinigrad » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:13 pm

Riiser-Larsen wrote:My god, this is still alive? I would have thought this thread would self-destruct by now.

As it happens, threads on abortion rank number 3 on Top Bait Topics
Ayreonia wrote:I just knew nobody would say they like Fox News without serious incentive.

Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.92
If your name ends with in, time to get out

User avatar
Nervium
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6513
Founded: Jan 23, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Nervium » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:14 pm

Stupid Nebraska, poor girl.

All I have to say.
I've retired from the forums.

User avatar
Pandeeria
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15269
Founded: Jun 12, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Pandeeria » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:21 pm

Mewtinigrad wrote:
Riiser-Larsen wrote:My god, this is still alive? I would have thought this thread would self-destruct by now.

As it happens, threads on abortion rank number 3 on Top Bait Topics


What's number one?
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

User avatar
Geilinor
Post Czar
 
Posts: 41328
Founded: Feb 20, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Geilinor » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:26 pm

Hallistar wrote:
Need a name wrote:Um, war has nothing to do with this. But I can't debate any longer, I have to leave. Fair well!

War was mentioned because alot of things humans already do could be seen as 'playing god'.

Including inventing life-saving medicines, which a small lunatic fringe group does believe we shouldn't do.
Member of the Free Democratic Party. Not left. Not right. Forward.
Economic Left/Right: -1.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

User avatar
Geilinor
Post Czar
 
Posts: 41328
Founded: Feb 20, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Geilinor » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:27 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Mewtinigrad wrote:As it happens, threads on abortion rank number 3 on Top Bait Topics


What's number one?

I'd say transgender equality.
Member of the Free Democratic Party. Not left. Not right. Forward.
Economic Left/Right: -1.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

User avatar
Nervium
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6513
Founded: Jan 23, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Nervium » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:31 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Mewtinigrad wrote:As it happens, threads on abortion rank number 3 on Top Bait Topics


What's number one?


Anything ranging from "Why Ron Paul is right", "Why you should vote for Ron Paul", "Ron Paul sells used undies to raise funds, 5 bucks each", "Anarcho-capitalism, best system eva?", "Why Stalin wasn't such a bad guy after all", "Is religious fundamentalism really that bad?", "Proof that white people are superior to anyone else!" to "Obama filthy marxist-Kenyan teks guns awey, impeach him!!!1"

Geilinor wrote:I'd say transgender equality.


And this too probably.
Last edited by Nervium on Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I've retired from the forums.

User avatar
Mewtinigrad
Envoy
 
Posts: 350
Founded: Sep 10, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Mewtinigrad » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:36 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Mewtinigrad wrote:As it happens, threads on abortion rank number 3 on Top Bait Topics


What's number one?

Religion, most of the time. Though at times arguments on bestiality take first prize as well, religious debates are the most consistent perfect jimmy rustlers.

Nervium wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
What's number one?


Anything ranging from "Why Ron Paul is right", "Why you should vote for Ron Paul", "Ron Paul sells used undies to raise funds, 5 bucks each", "Anarcho-capitalism, best system eva?", "Why Stalin wasn't such a bad guy after all", "Is religious fundamentalism really that bad?", "Proof that white people are superior to anyone else!" to "Obama filthy marxist-Kenyan teks guns awey, impeach him!!!1"

Geilinor wrote:I'd say transgender equality.


And this too probably.

Transgender equality I think ranks a solid number 2. Most of the others you listed are really dependent on how easy the people there fall for bait. If one were to try the Ron Paul or Obama lines on a more sensible or simply less trollable website, particularly most image boards, one would find that they would fail quite quickly unless worded subtly enough. However, if one were to try it on /pol/, you'd be guaranteed 100+ replies.
Last edited by Mewtinigrad on Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Ayreonia wrote:I just knew nobody would say they like Fox News without serious incentive.

Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.92
If your name ends with in, time to get out

User avatar
Kylistan
Diplomat
 
Posts: 530
Founded: Jan 09, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Kylistan » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:39 pm

You guys can say whatever you want, but as far as I'm concerned this Nebraska court did the world a great justice by saving a life today. That child will be given an opportunity to pursue happiness unlike the 50 million babies that have had their lives cut short by Roe v. Wade. If the girl feels she isn't ready to raise the child, then it seems as if putting it up for adoption or giving it to her foster parents would be a more logical choice than just killing it.
Left/Right: 4.36
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -.62

Join me in The Great American Union!

PROUD AMERICAN

User avatar
Tlaceceyaya
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9932
Founded: Oct 17, 2011
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:40 pm

Kylistan wrote:You guys can say whatever you want, but as far as I'm concerned this Nebraska court did the world a great justice by saving a life today. That child will be given an opportunity to pursue happiness unlike the 50 million babies that have had their lives cut short by Roe v. Wade. If the girl feels she isn't ready to raise the child, then it seems as if putting it up for adoption or giving it to her foster parents would be a more logical choice than just killing it.

And unlike the countless babies that have had their lives cut short before they even began by masturbation or condoms or infertility or not having sex when one could be having sex, am I right?
Economic Left/Right -9.75, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -8.87
Also, Bonobos.
I am a market socialist, atheist, more to come maybe at some point
Dimitri Tsafendas wrote:You are guilty not only when you commit a crime, but also when you do nothing to prevent it when you have the chance.

User avatar
Nervium
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6513
Founded: Jan 23, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Nervium » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:42 pm

Kylistan wrote:You guys can say whatever you want, but as far as I'm concerned this Nebraska court did the world a great justice by saving a life today. That child will be given an opportunity to pursue happiness unlike the 50 million babies that have had their lives cut short by Roe v. Wade. If the girl feels she isn't ready to raise the child, then it seems as if putting it up for adoption or giving it to her foster parents would be a more logical choice than just killing it.


Actually no, they didn't, they destroyed a girl's life and future.
I've retired from the forums.

User avatar
The Shia Califate
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 499
Founded: Sep 28, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Shia Califate » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:44 pm

If a teenage girl decides to be a slut and have sex with everyone in the neighborhood and she gets pregnant, it is completely her fault.
Likes: Religion, Iran, Capitalism, Business, Democracy, Theocracy
Dislikes: Anarchy, Atheism, Polytheism, Kurds, Unions
Neuhausen wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Hell, in most Islamic countries, male homosexuality is punishable by death, while female homosexuality is legal.


Don't worry. I'm equally (lesbians also) against same-sex marriage.

I apologize for my strange sense of grammar; I type like Charles Dickens fell down the stairs and suffered a traumatic injury

User avatar
Kylistan
Diplomat
 
Posts: 530
Founded: Jan 09, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Kylistan » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:44 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Kylistan wrote:You guys can say whatever you want, but as far as I'm concerned this Nebraska court did the world a great justice by saving a life today. That child will be given an opportunity to pursue happiness unlike the 50 million babies that have had their lives cut short by Roe v. Wade. If the girl feels she isn't ready to raise the child, then it seems as if putting it up for adoption or giving it to her foster parents would be a more logical choice than just killing it.

And unlike the countless babies that have had their lives cut short before they even began by masturbation or condoms or infertility or not having sex when one could be having sex, am I right?


That is an invalid argument as life has not been formed in any of those cases.
Left/Right: 4.36
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -.62

Join me in The Great American Union!

PROUD AMERICAN

User avatar
The Grey Wolf
Post Czar
 
Posts: 32675
Founded: May 19, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Grey Wolf » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:44 pm

Eaglleia wrote:Hmmm...No, no they didn't.


One time I got to agree. Most people can't even handle things like sex at that age, much less giving birth.

User avatar
Pandeeria
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15269
Founded: Jun 12, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Pandeeria » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:45 pm

Kylistan wrote:You guys can say whatever you want, but as far as I'm concerned this Nebraska court did the world a great justice by saving a life today. That child will be given an opportunity to pursue happiness unlike the 50 million babies that have had their lives cut short by Roe v. Wade. If the girl feels she isn't ready to raise the child, then it seems as if putting it up for adoption or giving it to her foster parents would be a more logical choice than just killing it.


> Doesn't seem to care about all the physical, social, and psychological pain the women will go through

> doesn't seem to care that the kid might have psychological problems with no actual biological parents, and possible abuse

> doesn't seem to care about the actual physical complications of pregnancy

> doesn't seem to care about the basic human right of bodily sovereignty
Last edited by Pandeeria on Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

User avatar
Kylistan
Diplomat
 
Posts: 530
Founded: Jan 09, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Kylistan » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:45 pm

Nervium wrote:
Kylistan wrote:You guys can say whatever you want, but as far as I'm concerned this Nebraska court did the world a great justice by saving a life today. That child will be given an opportunity to pursue happiness unlike the 50 million babies that have had their lives cut short by Roe v. Wade. If the girl feels she isn't ready to raise the child, then it seems as if putting it up for adoption or giving it to her foster parents would be a more logical choice than just killing it.


Actually no, they didn't, they destroyed a girl's life and future.


Well obviously if the girl is having unprotected sex at 16 her future was probably pretty limited to begin with...
Left/Right: 4.36
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -.62

Join me in The Great American Union!

PROUD AMERICAN

User avatar
Oneracon
Senator
 
Posts: 4735
Founded: Jul 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Oneracon » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:46 pm

Kylistan wrote:You guys can say whatever you want, but as far as I'm concerned this Nebraska court did the world a great justice by saving a life today. That child will be given an opportunity to pursue happiness unlike the 50 million babies that have had their lives cut short by Roe v. Wade. If the girl feels she isn't ready to raise the child, then it seems as if putting it up for adoption or giving it to her foster parents would be a more logical choice than just killing it.


So you're glad that this court ruled to put a 16-year-old girl (a child!) through the trauma of childbirth just so that another child can be added to the adoption/foster-care system and then hopefully find a family before they become "too old to adopt"?

Disgusting.
Compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72
Oneracon IC Links
Factbook
Embassies

"The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power"
Pro:LGBTQ+ rights, basic income, secularism, gun control, internet freedom, civic nationalism, non-military national service, independent Scotland, antifa
Anti: Social conservatism, laissez-faire capitalism, NuAtheism, PETA, capital punishment, Putin, SWERF, TERF, GamerGate, "Alt-right" & neo-Nazism, Drumpf, ethnic nationalism, "anti-PC", pineapple on pizza

Your resident Canadian neutral good socdem graduate student.

*Here, queer, and not a prop for your right-wing nonsense.*

User avatar
Tlaceceyaya
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9932
Founded: Oct 17, 2011
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:47 pm

Kylistan wrote:
Nervium wrote:
Actually no, they didn't, they destroyed a girl's life and future.


Well obviously if the girl is having unprotected sex at 16 her future was probably pretty limited to begin with...

How do you know it was unprotected sex?
Economic Left/Right -9.75, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -8.87
Also, Bonobos.
I am a market socialist, atheist, more to come maybe at some point
Dimitri Tsafendas wrote:You are guilty not only when you commit a crime, but also when you do nothing to prevent it when you have the chance.

User avatar
Kylistan
Diplomat
 
Posts: 530
Founded: Jan 09, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Kylistan » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:47 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Kylistan wrote:You guys can say whatever you want, but as far as I'm concerned this Nebraska court did the world a great justice by saving a life today. That child will be given an opportunity to pursue happiness unlike the 50 million babies that have had their lives cut short by Roe v. Wade. If the girl feels she isn't ready to raise the child, then it seems as if putting it up for adoption or giving it to her foster parents would be a more logical choice than just killing it.


> Doesn't seem to care about all the physical, social, and psychological pain the women will go through

> doesn't seem to care that the kid might have psychological problems with no actual biological parents, and possible abuse

> doesn't seem to care about the actual physical complications of pregnancy

> doesn't seem to care about the basic human right of bodily sovereignty


And you don't seem to care that you are taking away the life of another human being.
Left/Right: 4.36
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -.62

Join me in The Great American Union!

PROUD AMERICAN

User avatar
Pandeeria
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15269
Founded: Jun 12, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Pandeeria » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:48 pm

Kylistan wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
> Doesn't seem to care about all the physical, social, and psychological pain the women will go through

> doesn't seem to care that the kid might have psychological problems with no actual biological parents, and possible abuse

> doesn't seem to care about the actual physical complications of pregnancy

> doesn't seem to care about the basic human right of bodily sovereignty


And you don't seem to care that you are taking away the life of another human being.


A human being that isn't technically even a citizen, likely not even self-aware, and is really just a small chunk of cells.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Aerlanica, Aggicificicerous, American Legionaries, Anglaunia, Aquarii, Des-Bal, Fractalnavel, Grinning Dragon, Hollibourn, Myrensis, Necroghastia, Ostroeuropa, Port Caverton, Shrillland, Tarsonis, The Sherpa Empire, Umeria, Valyxias, Washington Resistance Army, Wrekstaat, Xind, Zurkerx

Advertisement

Remove ads