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Did the Nebraska Supreme Court make the right decision here or not?

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Postby Olthar » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:06 pm

Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I'm sure you can prove she didn't use a condom.


You don't get pregnant if you use a condom.

Because condoms are perfect and flawless and never break. :roll:
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Postby Marquette of Pacific » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:06 pm

Benuty wrote:
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You don't get pregnant if you use a condom.

Source?


Are you kidding me? How can sperm get through layers of latex preventing it from getting into a vagina?
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Postby Dakini » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:06 pm

Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I'm sure you can prove she didn't use a condom.


You don't get pregnant if you use a condom.

Except when you don't use the condom correctly or if it breaks.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:06 pm

Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I'm sure you can prove she didn't use a condom.


You don't get pregnant if you use a condom.

Um..what?
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:06 pm

Kylistan wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:I don't get why you don't address the topic at hand.

why should this 16 year old be denied the medical rights every other woman in America has?


Because its a law in Nebraska that you must obtain parental consent and she was unable to obtain that therefore she should not be allowed to have an abortion. The court was just abiding by state laws.

no

the court acts as a workaround to make sure that the girl both wants an abortion and is not being coerced into it. instead the judges decided that she didn't have the right to make the decision at all.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:07 pm

You probably shouldn't use a condom if it was made in China.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:07 pm

Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Benuty wrote:Source?


Are you kidding me? How can sperm get through layers of latex preventing it from getting into a vagina?

It's called sex.

Perhaps you should try it.
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Postby Marquette of Pacific » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:07 pm

Dakini wrote:
Marquette of Pacific wrote:
You don't get pregnant if you use a condom.

Except when you don't use the condom correctly or if it breaks.


Well that brings us to another issue, that one shouldn't be having sex until they are married anyway. Then it is ok to have a kid and no one cares if you get pregnant because a condom broke.
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Postby Republic of Greater America » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:08 pm

...QWERTY. In all seriousness, the girl should not be forced to raise the baby, but in accordance to the law, she should give birth, but then put it up for adoption. A better is why the hell was she sleeping around as a 15 year old, with ultra-religious parents in addition to that?

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:08 pm

Marquette of Pacific wrote:Well that brings us to another issue, that one shouldn't be having sex until they are married anyway.

No thanks.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:08 pm

Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Benuty wrote:Source?


Are you kidding me? How can sperm get through layers of latex preventing it from getting into a vagina?

Improperly made condoms, broken condoms, and ineffective condoms are a way of causing such events.
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Postby Olthar » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:08 pm

Gauthier wrote:You probably shouldn't use a condom if it was made in China.

I'm sure the lead powder acts as a great spermicide. *nods*
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Postby Benuty » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:09 pm

Gauthier wrote:You probably shouldn't use a condom if it was made in China.

Or take a vitamin pill from a Chinese medicinal company.
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:09 pm

Republic of Greater America wrote:...QWERTY. In all seriousness, the girl should not be forced to raise the baby, but in accordance to the law, she should give birth, but then put it up for adoption. A better is why the hell was she sleeping around as a 15 year old, with ultra-religious parents in addition to that?

Sleeping around?
You might want to google that, because you clearly don't know what it means.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:09 pm

Republic of Greater America wrote:...QWERTY. In all seriousness, the girl should not be forced to raise the baby, but in accordance to the law, she should give birth, but then put it up for adoption. A better is why the hell was she sleeping around as a 15 year old, with ultra-religious parents in addition to that?

Because ultra-religious parents make this sort of thing statistically more likely.

Look it up.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:09 pm

Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Dakini wrote:Except when you don't use the condom correctly or if it breaks.


Well that brings us to another issue, that one shouldn't be having sex until they are married anyway. Then it is ok to have a kid and no one cares if you get pregnant because a condom broke.

married people have unwanted pregnancies too
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:10 pm

Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Dakini wrote:Except when you don't use the condom correctly or if it breaks.


Well that brings us to another issue, that one shouldn't be having sex until they are married anyway. Then it is ok to have a kid and no one cares if you get pregnant because a condom broke.

Yeah, because all married couples want children right?

Right?
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Postby Benuty » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:11 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Republic of Greater America wrote:...QWERTY. In all seriousness, the girl should not be forced to raise the baby, but in accordance to the law, she should give birth, but then put it up for adoption. A better is why the hell was she sleeping around as a 15 year old, with ultra-religious parents in addition to that?

Because ultra-religious parents make this sort of thing statistically more likely.

Look it up.

If you had said "ultra religious parents who do not properly educate their child about the sexual world properly" then it would have been correct.
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Postby Dakini » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:12 pm

Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Dakini wrote:Except when you don't use the condom correctly or if it breaks.


Well that brings us to another issue, that one shouldn't be having sex until they are married anyway. Then it is ok to have a kid and no one cares if you get pregnant because a condom broke.

lol

It's like you think that married couples only have sex to make babies or that all married couples are ready and willing to become parents (or become parents to additional children).

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Postby Saiwania » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:13 pm

Assuming that no abortion has taken place, it is a bit too late for an abortion. She is going to give birth soon if she hasn't already. I think this Nebraska court made the wrong decision. She ought to have gotten a waiver early enough to where the fetus wasn't yet developed into a full baby.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:13 pm

Benuty wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Because ultra-religious parents make this sort of thing statistically more likely.

Look it up.

If you had said "ultra religious parents who do not properly educate their child about the sexual world properly" then it would have been correct.

Brevity is an underrated virtue. And what I said is statistically accurate.
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Postby Rocopurr » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:14 pm

Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Dakini wrote:Except when you don't use the condom correctly or if it breaks.


Well that brings us to another issue, that one shouldn't be having sex until they are married anyway. Then it is ok to have a kid and no one cares if you get pregnant because a condom broke.

If you want to wait until marriage that's cool, but you shouldn't have to wait.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:15 pm

Saiwania wrote:Assuming that no abortion has taken place, it is a bit too late for an abortion. She is going to give birth soon if she hasn't already. I think this Nebraska court made the wrong decision. She ought to have gotten a waiver early enough to where the fetus wasn't yet developed into a full baby.

yeah. sigh. she should have been able to get an abortion as soon as she decided she wanted one.
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Postby Olthar » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:16 pm

Dakini wrote:
Marquette of Pacific wrote:
Well that brings us to another issue, that one shouldn't be having sex until they are married anyway. Then it is ok to have a kid and no one cares if you get pregnant because a condom broke.

lol

It's like you think that married couples only have sex to make babies or that all married couples are ready and willing to become parents (or become parents to additional children).

I have a thoery that everyone who claims sex is only for reproduction is just being resentful that they can't get any. *nods*
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Postby Benuty » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:16 pm

Olthar wrote:
Dakini wrote:lol

It's like you think that married couples only have sex to make babies or that all married couples are ready and willing to become parents (or become parents to additional children).

I have a thoery that everyone who claims sex is only for reproduction is just being resentful that they can't get any. *nods*

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