Abortion Denied

[Liriena]

Because it's true love, That's why

But you know what is going to happen it is no misstery.

Not really.

[Yes Im Biop]

Learn to spell.


And O really? Why would that be? Remember love, Condoms aren't perfect, so no, ya really don't.

Oh no I misspelled a word I must not know English

Correct, ANd the fact you failed to say anything in your own defense proves you really are just here to annoy, Please leave.

[Kepler-22]

Because it's true love, That's why

But you know what is going to happen it is no misstery.

Actually, no one can know for certain what will happen when you enter into a sexual encounter with another person. Condoms sure are not perfect. That and some people might not even know if they are sterile or not. So no, there is a level of mystery in sexual encounters.

[The Tovian Way]

1. I deny that it is bullshit.
2. This is tautologous; nothing which can qualify as an opinion can be factual, and vice versa.
3. I deny this, and maintain that all rights are absolute. The consequences are secondary.
4. My cognition is quite harmonious, but I thank you for the concern.

1. That's all you've done for the past couple of ours: deny. Not argue, not propose any alternative. Only deny. Deny medical and legal definitions of terms you want to use for your own emotionally manipulative means. Deny legal and ethical conventions to falsely validate your philosophy.
2. Perhaps, but for a moment I thought it required clarification, seeing how you insist on expressing opinions that are factually untrue.
3. Read (1)
4. That seems unlikely, given that you deny the existence of positive rights, despite them being recognized as such by both international organizations and dozens of countries, yet you claim your views are well acquainted with reality.

1. I have indeed proposed an alternative: Respecting the absolute rights of all human beings in allowing them to exercise those rights in any way they see fit that does not infringe upon another's. I have not denied the legal definition, I have argued that the legal definition is improper and should be changed, hence changing the law.
2. No one may express any opinion that is factually untrue. If it is an opinion, it is neither factually true nor untrue. If it is factually true or untrue, it is not an opinion.
3. This is a primary source of contention, in that you do not believe that rights are absolute, whereas I do.
4. I do indeed deny the existence of positive rights. I'm well aware that they are recognized by international organizations and the governments of countries; these bodies are just as liable to be wrong as any individual is. The mere recognition of a right by a person or persons does not entail the existence of a right any more than the recognition of an entity by a person or persons entails the existence of that entity.

[Vindex Nation]

But you know what is going to happen it is no misstery.

Actually, no one can know for certain what will happen when you enter into a sexual encounter with another person. Condoms sure are not perfect. That and some people might not even know if they are sterile or not. So no, there is a level of mystery in sexual encounters.

Ya well they should still take in the consequences and know the risk

[Yes Im Biop]

Actually, no one can know for certain what will happen when you enter into a sexual encounter with another person. Condoms sure are not perfect. That and some people might not even know if they are sterile or not. So no, there is a level of mystery in sexual encounters.

Ya well they should still take in the consequences and know the risk

Consensuses: 18 years of debt, Wasted time, Extreme pain, Emotional Trauma
Action: Condom broke


Punishment to fit the crime right? People like ya make me sic k

[Zottistan]

Actually, no one can know for certain what will happen when you enter into a sexual encounter with another person. Condoms sure are not perfect. That and some people might not even know if they are sterile or not. So no, there is a level of mystery in sexual encounters.

Ya well they should still take in the consequences and know the risk

And if they mess up, why should they not be able to correct their mistake?

[Vindex Nation]

Ya well they should still take in the consequences and know the risk

Consensuses: 18 years of debt, Wasted time, Extreme pain, Emotional Trauma
Action: Condom broke


Punishment to fit the crime right? People like ya make me sic k

So how is abortion going to help anything?

[Hurdegaryp]

Ya well they should still take in the consequences and know the risk

Consensuses: 18 years of debt, Wasted time, Extreme pain, Emotional Trauma
Action: Condom broke


Punishment to fit the crime right? People like ya make me sic k

They claim it's all about the protection of unborn life, when in reality it is just a borderline sociopathic lack of empathy and blunt misogynistic tendencies.

[Vindex Nation]

Ya well they should still take in the consequences and know the risk

And if they mess up, why should they not be able to correct their mistake?

Correct there mistake by what? Killing another human? That's a mistake in itself

[Vindex Nation]

Consensuses: 18 years of debt, Wasted time, Extreme pain, Emotional Trauma
Action: Condom broke


Punishment to fit the crime right? People like ya make me sic k

They claim it's all about the protection of unborn life, when in reality it is just a borderline sociopathic lack of empathy and blunt misogynistic tendencies.

You don't seem to understand that there is always more than one solution besides killing the child

[Kepler-22]

1. That's all you've done for the past couple of ours: deny. Not argue, not propose any alternative. Only deny. Deny medical and legal definitions of terms you want to use for your own emotionally manipulative means. Deny legal and ethical conventions to falsely validate your philosophy.
2. Perhaps, but for a moment I thought it required clarification, seeing how you insist on expressing opinions that are factually untrue.
3. Read (1)
4. That seems unlikely, given that you deny the existence of positive rights, despite them being recognized as such by both international organizations and dozens of countries, yet you claim your views are well acquainted with reality.

1. I have indeed proposed an alternative: Respecting the absolute rights of all human beings in allowing them to exercise those rights in any way they see fit that does not infringe upon another's. I have not denied the legal definition, I have argued that the legal definition is improper and should be changed, hence changing the law.
2. No one may express any opinion that is factually untrue. If it is an opinion, it is neither factually true nor untrue. If it is factually true or untrue, it is not an opinion.
3. This is a primary source of contention, in that you do not believe that rights are absolute, whereas I do.
4. I do indeed deny the existence of positive rights. I'm well aware that they are recognized by international organizations and the governments of countries; these bodies are just as liable to be wrong as any individual is. The mere recognition of a right by a person or persons does not entail the existence of a right any more than the recognition of an entity by a person or persons entails the existence of that entity.

1. What is a human beings' absolute rights? Are those not derived from bodies of people and organizations which, reading number 4, "are just as liable to be wrong as any individual is"?
2. The part in blue is a lie, people express opinions that are factually untrue all the time. As for the last part, here is an opinion that is factually true: I believe gravity exists and there are other solar systems.
3. You are right, it is contested.
4. What gives a human being negative rights, if they are not the opposite of positive rights that are granted by bodies of human beings?

[Yes Im Biop]

Consensuses: 18 years of debt, Wasted time, Extreme pain, Emotional Trauma
Action: Condom broke


Punishment to fit the crime right? People like ya make me sic k

So how is abortion going to help anything?

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I'm not gonna say what I wanna cause you aren't worth is. SO I will say this instead


Fucking really? You really have no fucking clue what you are talking about

[Bottle]

Actually, no one can know for certain what will happen when you enter into a sexual encounter with another person. Condoms sure are not perfect. That and some people might not even know if they are sterile or not. So no, there is a level of mystery in sexual encounters.

Ya well they should still take in the consequences and know the risk

The majority of women who get abortions already have at least one child.

Pretty sure they're aware of where babies come from.

[Vindex Nation]

So how is abortion going to help anything?

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I'm not gonna say what I wanna cause you aren't worth is. SO I will say this instead


Fucking really? You really have no fucking clue what you are talking about

The real reason you say that is because you are defenseless

[Vindex Nation]

Ya well they should still take in the consequences and know the risk

The majority of women who get abortions already have at least one child.

Pretty sure they're aware of where babies come from.

Then why are they getting it

[Zottistan]

And if they mess up, why should they not be able to correct their mistake?

Correct there mistake by what? Killing another human? That's a mistake in itself

And screwing up their own lives, their interpersonal relationships, the life of the child they give birth to, causing a buttload of expenses, etc... to force them into allowing a person inhabit them that they don't even want inside them aren't mistakes?

You should not be entitled to exist at the expense of another person.

[Vindex Nation]

Correct there mistake by what? Killing another human? That's a mistake in itself

And screwing up their own lives, their interpersonal relationships, the life of the child they give birth to, causing a buttload of expenses, etc... to force them into allowing a person inhabit them that they don't even want inside them aren't mistakes?

You should not be entitled to exist at the expense of another person.

Adoption is the answer to that

[Kepler-22]

Consensuses: 18 years of debt, Wasted time, Extreme pain, Emotional Trauma
Action: Condom broke


Punishment to fit the crime right? People like ya make me sic k

So how is abortion going to help anything?

Well, abortion will remove 18 years of possible debt from a person, remove nine months of wasted time when that carrier could be doing more beneficial things for society, the pain of pregnancy and carrying the fetus will be dissolved, and the emotional trauma of having to worry how the child will grow up and if you will be able to truly take care of it as it should be will be removed. It seems abortion solves all four of the problems listed.

[Bottle]

The majority of women who get abortions already have at least one child.

Pretty sure they're aware of where babies come from.

Then why are they getting it

Because they are unwilling to carry a pregnancy to term.

[Zottistan]

The majority of women who get abortions already have at least one child.

Pretty sure they're aware of where babies come from.

Then why are they getting it

Because unwanted babies are expensive, stressful and often harmful to family and personal life.

This really isn't rocket science.

[Immoren]

They claim it's all about the protection of unborn life, when in reality it is just a borderline sociopathic lack of empathy and blunt misogynistic tendencies.

You don't seem to understand that there is always more than one solution besides killing the child

Why not spare them both from further suffering?

[Yes Im Biop]

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I'm not gonna say what I wanna cause you aren't worth is. SO I will say this instead


Fucking really? You really have no fucking clue what you are talking about

The real reason you say that is because you are defenseless

NO, It's because I won't be baited by you love, I'm better than that so I will reside to let you wallow in your perfect little delusion, stay out of our world.

[Bottle]

You don't seem to understand that there is always more than one solution besides killing the child

Why not spare them both from further suffering?

Women who choose to have sex deserve suffering. Haven't you heard? They have to be taught a lesson!

[Kepler-22]

And screwing up their own lives, their interpersonal relationships, the life of the child they give birth to, causing a buttload of expenses, etc... to force them into allowing a person inhabit them that they don't even want inside them aren't mistakes?

You should not be entitled to exist at the expense of another person.

Adoption is the answer to that

Adoption does not remove the fact that a fetus is growing inside a human being and the resources of that human being are leeched away.