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Should gay marriage be allowed?

Yes- It is essential to human rights
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63%
Yes- Why not?
57
20%
No- A marriage is between a man and a woman
31
11%
No- God disapproves of this
6
2%
Indifferent
13
4%
 
Total votes : 290

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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:47 pm

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The Carlisle wrote:If you truly have gay friends, then you would support their struggle to legalize gay marriage. Friends don't let friends be unhappy and oppressed.


They do not wish to marry their significant other.


Yes, yes they do.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:47 pm

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Light-Crown wrote:Well, I'm not homophobic. I have a few homosexual friends. But as for gay marriage, that's a whole other topic.
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Postby Liberatia » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:47 pm

good. it is also good to know that he was accepting of a state referendum.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:00 pm

About time.

14 down, 36 to go.
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Postby Leningrad Union » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:33 am

I have to say, I was surprised that it was NJ. I thought it would be Illinois.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:41 am

Excellent work NJ, by jove.

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Postby Kvatchdom » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:06 am

I don't know about human rights, but yea, why not?

And Finland is still going slower than the dreaded USA with this. :palm:
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Postby Flaming Soul Forces » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:00 am

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:23 am

Glorious Work New Jersey. Definitely a step in the right direction.
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Postby Risottia » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:25 am

Divair wrote:14 states down. 36 to go.


I am disappointed. If things continue this way, chances are that even Alabama will get equal marriage before Italy does.

WHERE'S MY EUROPEAN SUPREMACY ON HUMAN RIGHTS DAMMIT! WHERE'S MY STEREOTYPE OF AMERICA AS A BACKWARDS FUNDIE HELLHOLE! THIS IS NOT HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO GO!
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Postby Risottia » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:29 am

Light-Crown wrote:
The Carlisle wrote:If you truly have gay friends, then you would support their struggle to legalize gay marriage. Friends don't let friends be unhappy and oppressed.


They do not wish to marry their significant other.


I'm sure your gay friends aren't the totality of the gay couples of all the world, neither do they represent all the gay couples of the world.

Some people (straight and gay) want to get married. Some people (straight and gay) don't.
Is this a reason NOT to recognise people who want to get married the right to do so?
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Postby Vault 1 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:40 am

Leningrad Union wrote:So what do you think NS? A step in the right or wrong direction?

About damn time. Whatever their gays are like, it can't be as bad as [you know].

I'd go further and outright ban straight marriage in NJ.

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:46 am

Vault 1 wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:So what do you think NS? A step in the right or wrong direction?

About damn time. Whatever their gays are like, it can't be as bad as [you know].

I'd go further and outright ban straight marriage in NJ.

The fuck did I just read. [/Divair]
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Postby IamJohnGalt » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:52 am

The government should not be in the marriage business. The only right anyone has is the right to his or her life. His freedom to act by his own judgement for his own goals without coercion.

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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:19 am

Ah, yes, the evil gay agenda is making progress. Good, good. Just as planned.
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:24 am

IamJohnGalt wrote:The government should not be in the marriage business.


What a completely trite, objectively meaningless, and critical-thought-free statement.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:29 am

Risottia wrote:
Divair wrote:14 states down. 36 to go.


I am disappointed. If things continue this way, chances are that even Alabama will get equal marriage before Italy does.

WHERE'S MY EUROPEAN SUPREMACY ON HUMAN RIGHTS DAMMIT! WHERE'S MY STEREOTYPE OF AMERICA AS A BACKWARDS FUNDIE HELLHOLE! THIS IS NOT HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO GO!


Perhaps the best thing is that most Americans will think all of Europe already has it. We'll beat you to the punch fully thinking we were the last to the party. :p

IamJohnGalt wrote:The government should not be in the marriage business. The only right anyone has is the right to his or her life. His freedom to act by his own judgement for his own goals without coercion.


Except, it does. Marriage guarantees certain benefits that committed couples NEED. Things like hospital visitation, medical decisions, funeral planning, inheritance, etc. And the cheapest, simplest solution to guaranteeing these necessities is this thing we call the institution of marriage. Every other alternative involves shitloads of time, money, and paperwork (and at least one lawyer) that only a rich person could afford (and even then, the benefits aren't necessarily guaranteed).

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:01 am

IamJohnGalt wrote:The government should not be in the marriage business. The only right anyone has is the right to his or her life. His freedom to act by his own judgement for his own goals without coercion.

Which is exactly what the New Jersey government guaranteed with this.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:02 am

IamJohnGalt wrote:The government should not be in the marriage business. The only right anyone has is the right to his or her life. His freedom to act by his own judgement for his own goals without coercion.

Yeah that's cute, but it's kind of a requirement when knowing who's related to who.
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IamJohnGalt wrote:The only right anyone has is the right to his or her life.

So... there is no right to freedom of the press, bodily sovereignity, privacy, vote or equality under the law?
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:09 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:About time.

14 down, 36 to go.

Good luck with getting Idaho and Utah to allow gay marriage. Just........I'll pray for you.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:10 am

Vazdania wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:About time.

14 down, 36 to go.

Good luck with getting Idaho and Utah to allow gay marriage. Just........I'll pray for you.

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