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Should gay marriage be allowed?

Yes- It is essential to human rights
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63%
Yes- Why not?
57
20%
No- A marriage is between a man and a woman
31
11%
No- God disapproves of this
6
2%
Indifferent
13
4%
 
Total votes : 290

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The Godly Nations
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Postby The Godly Nations » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:34 pm

Divair wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Hitler?

Was not an atheist. Officially Catholic, but obsessed with German paganism.


There is rumors floating around that Adolph Hitler was gay, and that sending gays, Jews, and Poles to the camp are a result of his sexual confusion.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:34 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Liriena wrote:*sigh*

Let's see... civil marriage is a worldwide recognized human right. Same sex couples and their children exist, yet civil marriage often excludes them due to the sugarcoated "man+woman" tautology. Civil marriage is not "for eternity".

That being said, congratulations for a hilariously silly analogy.


Then you must not be married.

I've been married several times. My last wife passed from cancer. By the sheer fact that 'dying' and 'divorce' are both things, marriage is not for eternity.
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Postby Light-Crown » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:34 pm

Wow, looks like we got way off topic, haha.
Well, I'm sorry if I upset anybody with my beliefs, please forgive me. This has developed into to big of an argument that will get no where honestly. We're obviously not going to change eachother's minds about our philosophies.
I wish the best to all of you, sincerely. Have a good rest of your day/night where-ever you are.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:35 pm

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Liriena wrote:Yay for nuclear genocide over the recognition of LGBT people's civil rights!

To be fair humanity in "Planet of the apes" had it coming to them when they enslaved several sapient species of great apes to serve them.

That is why we should never create sapience in other beings and we should do like Japan and try to exterminate cetaceans, they are a bigger risk to us than the Sun's ever-increasing brightness or asteroids. *nods*
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Postby The Godly Nations » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:35 pm

Light-Crown wrote:I can tell because you must not understand what it feels like to be married to your significant other.
But, thats alright, there's always someone out there for each person.


And that person out there may be the same sex as yourself.

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Postby Benuty » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:35 pm

The Godly Nations wrote:
Divair wrote:Was not an atheist. Officially Catholic, but obsessed with German paganism.


There is rumors floating around that Adolph Hitler was gay, and that sending gays, Jews, and Poles to the camp are a result of his sexual confusion.

Well he did have a doctor who basically kept him knocked up on a drug cocktail for much of the war.
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Postby Light-Crown » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:35 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:
Then you must not be married.

I've been married several times. My last wife passed from cancer. By the sheer fact that 'dying' and 'divorce' are both things, marriage is not for eternity.


I'm sorry to hear :( I will pray for you, sir.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:36 pm

Light-Crown wrote:Wow, looks like we got way off topic, haha.
Well, I'm sorry if I upset anybody with my beliefs, please forgive me. This has developed into to big of an argument that will get no where honestly. We're obviously not going to change eachother's minds about our philosophies.
I wish the best to all of you, sincerely. Have a good rest of your day/night where-ever you are.

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Postby Divair » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:36 pm

The Godly Nations wrote:
Divair wrote:Was not an atheist. Officially Catholic, but obsessed with German paganism.


There is rumors floating around that Adolph Hitler was gay, and that sending gays, Jews, and Poles to the camp are a result of his sexual confusion.

Or maybe he was just fucking nuts.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:36 pm

Light-Crown wrote:Wow, looks like we got way off topic, haha.
Well, I'm sorry if I upset anybody with my beliefs, please forgive me. This has developed into to big of an argument that will get no where honestly. We're obviously not going to change eachother's minds about our philosophies.
I wish the best to all of you, sincerely. Have a good rest of your day/night where-ever you are.

"Hey, I know I didn't present any evidence to back up my homophobic claptrap, so maybe saying something nice will distract you all from me running away with my tail between my legs!"
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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:36 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
Liriena wrote:Because...?


I can tell because you must not understand what it feels like to be married to your significant other.
But, thats alright, there's always someone out there for each person.

I am not married, but I do want to get married and have children. However, I fail to see how this is in any way relevant to your hilariously poor argument against same-sex marriage.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:37 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:I've been married several times. My last wife passed from cancer. By the sheer fact that 'dying' and 'divorce' are both things, marriage is not for eternity.


I'm sorry to hear :( I will pray for you, sir.

Do yourself a favour and save your breath.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:37 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:I've been married several times. My last wife passed from cancer. By the sheer fact that 'dying' and 'divorce' are both things, marriage is not for eternity.

I'm sorry to hear :( I will pray for you, sir.

I think that for atheists who had losts... prayers sound quite, how can I put it....
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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:38 pm

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Liriena wrote:Yay for nuclear genocide over the recognition of LGBT people's civil rights!


You know, it's amazing how much of a difference the word "the" can make. I mean, it's just an indicative article, something that a lot of languages leave out altogether. But in English, it's all-powerful. It can literally reverse the meaning of a word. Take the word "shit," for example. If I say, "that's shit," then it's awful, unpleasant, not something I want to be associated with--it's, well, shit. But if I add just one small word, and say, "that's the shit," then all of a sudden it's awesome, enthralling, the most amazing thing since sliced bread--it's the shit!

Is this good or bad? :unsure:
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Postby Light-Crown » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:38 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:Wow, looks like we got way off topic, haha.
Well, I'm sorry if I upset anybody with my beliefs, please forgive me. This has developed into to big of an argument that will get no where honestly. We're obviously not going to change eachother's minds about our philosophies.
I wish the best to all of you, sincerely. Have a good rest of your day/night where-ever you are.

"Hey, I know I didn't present any evidence to back up my homophobic claptrap, so maybe saying something nice will distract you all from me running away with my tail between my legs!"


Well, I'm not homophobic. I have a few homosexual friends. But as for gay marriage, that's a whole other topic.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:38 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:I'm sorry to hear :( I will pray for you, sir.

I think that for atheists who had losts... prayers sound quite, how can I put it....

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:39 pm

Light-Crown wrote:Wow, looks like we got way off topic, haha.
Well, I'm sorry if I upset anybody with my beliefs, please forgive me. This has developed into to big of an argument that will get no where honestly. We're obviously not going to change eachother's minds about our philosophies.
I wish the best to all of you, sincerely. Have a good rest of your day/night where-ever you are.

So because you don't have any good arguments and can't defend your position you're gonna cop out and run?
Why the fuck are you even on a debate forum if you're not willing to DEBATE???

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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:39 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:Wow, looks like we got way off topic, haha.
Well, I'm sorry if I upset anybody with my beliefs, please forgive me. This has developed into to big of an argument that will get no where honestly. We're obviously not going to change eachother's minds about our philosophies.
I wish the best to all of you, sincerely. Have a good rest of your day/night where-ever you are.

"Hey, I know I didn't present any evidence to back up my homophobic claptrap, so maybe saying something nice will distract you all from me running away with my tail between my legs!"

Ah, so you noticed as well?
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:39 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:"Hey, I know I didn't present any evidence to back up my homophobic claptrap, so maybe saying something nice will distract you all from me running away with my tail between my legs!"


Well, I'm not homophobic. I have a few homosexual friends. But as for gay marriage, that's a whole other topic.
:?


You've contradicted yourself. Opposition to same-sex marriage is an inherently homophobic position, regardless of who your friends you are.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:40 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:"Hey, I know I didn't present any evidence to back up my homophobic claptrap, so maybe saying something nice will distract you all from me running away with my tail between my legs!"


Well, I'm not homophobic. I have a few homosexual friends. But as for gay marriage, that's a whole other topic.
:?

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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:40 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:"Hey, I know I didn't present any evidence to back up my homophobic claptrap, so maybe saying something nice will distract you all from me running away with my tail between my legs!"


Well, I'm not homophobic. I have a few homosexual friends. But as for gay marriage, that's a whole other topic.
:?


Do you dispise homosexuality?
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:40 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:Wow, looks like we got way off topic, haha.
Well, I'm sorry if I upset anybody with my beliefs, please forgive me. This has developed into to big of an argument that will get no where honestly. We're obviously not going to change eachother's minds about our philosophies.
I wish the best to all of you, sincerely. Have a good rest of your day/night where-ever you are.

So because you don't have any good arguments and can't defend your position you're gonna cop out and run?
Why the fuck are you even on a debate forum if you're not willing to DEBATE???


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Postby The Godly Nations » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:40 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:"Hey, I know I didn't present any evidence to back up my homophobic claptrap, so maybe saying something nice will distract you all from me running away with my tail between my legs!"


Well, I'm not homophobic. I have a few homosexual friends. But as for gay marriage, that's a whole other topic.
:?


I am not racist, I have black friends, but I don't believe that black people should mix with white people as it would muddy the blood of the pure Aryans.

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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:40 pm

Light-Crown wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:"Hey, I know I didn't present any evidence to back up my homophobic claptrap, so maybe saying something nice will distract you all from me running away with my tail between my legs!"


Well, I'm not homophobic. I have a few homosexual friends. But as for gay marriage, that's a whole other topic.
:?


Remind me why being opposed to more rights for LGBT people isn't homophobic. It's like saying "I'm not racist, but blacks shouldn't vote"
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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Light-Crown wrote:I'm sorry to hear :( I will pray for you, sir.

I think that for atheists who've* lost people*... prayers sound quite, how can I put it....

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