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Should gay marriage be allowed?

Yes- It is essential to human rights
183
63%
Yes- Why not?
57
20%
No- A marriage is between a man and a woman
31
11%
No- God disapproves of this
6
2%
Indifferent
13
4%
 
Total votes : 290

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Pandeeria
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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:20 pm

At least we are chugging along in social progress.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:21 pm

Why do five people oppose this? :eyebrow:

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Postby Menassa » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:22 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Why do five people oppose this? :eyebrow:

Shock value.

Pandeeria wrote:At least we are chugging along in social progress.

That's a bit subjective, I think.
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:22 pm

Liriena wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:Well according to the OT, it was.

Sorry, lad. You got gomorrah.

Actually yeah. It sounds like genital warts up to eleven. /pukes

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:22 pm

Liriena wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:Well according to the OT, it was.

Sorry, lad. You got gomorrah.

Gommora: symptoms include burning, death, and sodium poisoning.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby Blasveck » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:23 pm

Chris Christie tried to block it?

That's not going to help him come 2016.

And YAY!
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Postby Menassa » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:24 pm

Blasveck wrote:Chris Christie tried to block it?
[...]

Was there a reason for it?
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby The Godly Nations » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:24 pm

Blasveck wrote:Chris Christie tried to block it?

That's not going to help him come 2016.

And YAY!


It is with the Southern States...

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Postby Orcoa » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:24 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Liriena wrote:Sorry, lad. You got gomorrah.

Gommora: symptoms include burning, death, and sodium poisoning.

Also leads to devil worship, murderous rages, intense fear of anything holy, and blood orgies. :p
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:24 pm

WHOO!!! The gays, get more and more happy, and some of the Religious, get more and more angry. :clap: :D :lol2: :)
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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:25 pm

Menassa wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:At least we are chugging along in social progress.

That's a bit subjective, I think.


I guess, but all I really did was state my opinion.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby ALMF » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:25 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Why do five people oppose this? :eyebrow:

because faith exists and therefor evil.
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Left over right: 5.99
Libertarian over authoritarian: 4.2,
non-interventionist over neo-con: 5.14
Cultural liberal over cultural conservative: 7.6

You are a cosmopolitan Social Democrat. 16 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 5 percent are more extremist than you.

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Postby Menassa » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:25 pm

NEO Rome Republic wrote:WHOO!!! The gays, get more and more happy, and the Religious, get more and more angry. :clap: :D :lol2: :)

Some religious, I wouldn't say 'the' religious.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Orcoa » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:26 pm

NEO Rome Republic wrote:WHOO!!! The gays, get more and more happy, and the Religious, get more and more angry. :clap: :D :lol2: :)

Ummmm...

I'm not really angry at all, in fact happy that people in this state are allowed to marry their partners, and I'm religious...
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Postby The Godly Nations » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:26 pm

NEO Rome Republic wrote:WHOO!!! The gays, get more and more happy, and the Religious, get more and more angry. :clap: :D :lol2: :)


It is impossible to be happy and be in New Jersey.

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:26 pm

NEO Rome Republic wrote:WHOO!!! The gays, get more and more happy, and the Religious, get more and more angry. :clap: :D :lol2: :)

...What about religious homosexuals?

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:26 pm

Orcoa wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Gommora: symptoms include burning, death, and sodium poisoning.

Also leads to devil worship, murderous rages, intense fear of anything holy, and blood orgies. :p

"How I Beat Gommorah and You Can Too"

-By Big Jim P
Founder of the Church of Ass.

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Neo Art wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:27 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:WHOO!!! The gays, get more and more happy, and the Religious, get more and more angry. :clap: :D :lol2: :)

...What about religious homosexuals?

They are already bound for hell, they don't count.
Founder of the Church of Ass.

No Homo.
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Neo Art wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:27 pm

Orcoa wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:WHOO!!! The gays, get more and more happy, and the Religious, get more and more angry. :clap: :D :lol2: :)

Ummmm...

I'm not really angry at all, in fact happy that people in this state are allowed to marry their partners, and I'm religious...


It wasn't meant to be a statement about all Religious people, in any case, I edited the post.
Last edited by Neo Rome Republic on Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:27 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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This nation DOES(for most part) represent my OOC views.
''A rich man complaining about regulation and taxes, is like the drunkard at a party, complaining about not having enough to drink.'',

"An empty mind is a mind without a filter, the mind of a gullible fool. A closed mind is the mind unwilling to look at the reality outside its bubble. An open mind is one that is cautious, flexible yet balanced; looking at both the reality and the possibility."
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:27 pm

NEO Rome Republic wrote:WHOO!!! The gays, get more and more happy, and the Religious, get more and more angry. :clap: :D :lol2: :)

>Erases religious anti-heterosexists
>Implies heterosexists can't be secular or irreligious
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:28 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:WHOO!!! The gays, get more and more happy, and the Religious, get more and more angry. :clap: :D :lol2: :)

>Erases religious anti-heterosexists
>Implies heterosexists can't be secular or irreligious


No it doesn't. I'm hetero.
Last edited by Neo Rome Republic on Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Ethical and Metaphysical: (Pan) Humanist and Naturalist.
Political Views Sum: Centrist on social issues, Market Socialist on economic, and Radical Civic universalist on political governance.
This nation DOES(for most part) represent my OOC views.
''A rich man complaining about regulation and taxes, is like the drunkard at a party, complaining about not having enough to drink.'',

"An empty mind is a mind without a filter, the mind of a gullible fool. A closed mind is the mind unwilling to look at the reality outside its bubble. An open mind is one that is cautious, flexible yet balanced; looking at both the reality and the possibility."
OOC Info Page Pros And Cons Political Ideology

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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:28 pm

Seitonjin wrote:
Liriena wrote:Sorry, lad. You got gomorrah.

Actually yeah. It sounds like genital warts up to eleven. /pukes

Where is the FABULOUS option?

I dunno, but it better be here soon. No gay marriage thread is complete without a FABULOUS option.
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Postby Blasveck » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:29 pm

Menassa wrote:
Blasveck wrote:Chris Christie tried to block it?
[...]

Was there a reason for it?


Presumably personal objections.

Did the article specify?
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:29 pm

The Godly Nations wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:WHOO!!! The gays, get more and more happy, and the Religious, get more and more angry. :clap: :D :lol2: :)

It is impossible to be happy and be in New Jersey.

My first opinion of the state was created by that South Park episode so... XD
Aequalitia's bromancey mancrush.
Test: Seemingly, libertarian communism was renamed "social democracy"
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Socio-Economic Ideology: Democratic Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)

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Postby Orcoa » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:29 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Orcoa wrote:Also leads to devil worship, murderous rages, intense fear of anything holy, and blood orgies. :p

"How I Beat Gommorah and You Can Too"

-By Big Jim P

This post is full of win.

So basically getting Gommora is like acting out that one scene in Event horizon?
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