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Should gay marriage be allowed?

Yes- It is essential to human rights
183
63%
Yes- Why not?
57
20%
No- A marriage is between a man and a woman
31
11%
No- God disapproves of this
6
2%
Indifferent
13
4%
 
Total votes : 290

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Leningrad Union
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Gay marriage to be allowed in NJ

Postby Leningrad Union » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:24 pm

Same-sex couples can start marrying on Monday across New Jersey, after the state’s Supreme Court denied Gov. Chris Christie’s attempt to block the weddings and suggested that he will have a difficult time winning an appeal of a lower-court ruling that allowed them.

A state Superior Court judge ruled last month that the state had to allow same-sex marriage to comply with two decisions: the United States Supreme Court ruling in June that same-sex married couples have the same rights to federal benefits as heterosexual married couples, and a 2006 ruling by the New Jersey Supreme Court that same-sex couples were entitled to all of the rights and benefits of marriage.

The Superior Court judge, Mary C. Jacobson, ruled that the marriages could begin on Monday.

Mr. Christie’s office appealed the decision, and the state’s Supreme Court has agreed to hear the appeal, with oral arguments scheduled for early January. But on Friday, the court unanimously denied the Christie administration’s request for a stay on marriages until the appeal was settled.

While the court’s ruling on Friday applied only to the request for a stay, it also indicated that the justices did not think the appeal had a “reasonable” likelihood of success.

“The state has advanced a number of arguments, but none of them overcome this reality: same-sex couples who cannot marry are not treated equally under the law today,” Chief Justice Stuart Rabner wrote in his opinion. “The harm to them is real, not abstract or speculative.”

Mayors in Jersey City, Newark and Asbury Park, among others, had said they wanted to be first to marry same-sex couples, and gay rights groups had begun helping couples file for marriage licenses and plan ceremonies to begin the minute the clock strikes 12:01 a.m. on Monday.

Gay rights groups are also pushing the State Legislature to overturn Mr. Christie’s veto of a 2012 law that would have allowed gay marriage. Mr. Christie has said he believes that marriage is between a man and a woman, and he has suggested that the issue should be put before voters in a referendum.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/19/nyreg ... .html?_r=0

So what do you think NS? A step in the right or wrong direction?

I think it is great that they are guaranteeing human rights. It's a pleasant surprise that it happened under Chris Chrisite (not a fan) even though he was against it.
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Postby Ponyfornia » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:25 pm

It's good, but we've had a lot of threads about it, haven't we?
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Postby Sibator » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:25 pm

Where is the obligatory FABULOUS poll?
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:25 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Same-sex couples can start marrying on Monday across New Jersey, after the state’s Supreme Court denied Gov. Chris Christie’s attempt to block the weddings and suggested that he will have a difficult time winning an appeal of a lower-court ruling that allowed them.

A state Superior Court judge ruled last month that the state had to allow same-sex marriage to comply with two decisions: the United States Supreme Court ruling in June that same-sex married couples have the same rights to federal benefits as heterosexual married couples, and a 2006 ruling by the New Jersey Supreme Court that same-sex couples were entitled to all of the rights and benefits of marriage.

The Superior Court judge, Mary C. Jacobson, ruled that the marriages could begin on Monday.

Mr. Christie’s office appealed the decision, and the state’s Supreme Court has agreed to hear the appeal, with oral arguments scheduled for early January. But on Friday, the court unanimously denied the Christie administration’s request for a stay on marriages until the appeal was settled.

While the court’s ruling on Friday applied only to the request for a stay, it also indicated that the justices did not think the appeal had a “reasonable” likelihood of success.

“The state has advanced a number of arguments, but none of them overcome this reality: same-sex couples who cannot marry are not treated equally under the law today,” Chief Justice Stuart Rabner wrote in his opinion. “The harm to them is real, not abstract or speculative.”

Mayors in Jersey City, Newark and Asbury Park, among others, had said they wanted to be first to marry same-sex couples, and gay rights groups had begun helping couples file for marriage licenses and plan ceremonies to begin the minute the clock strikes 12:01 a.m. on Monday.

Gay rights groups are also pushing the State Legislature to overturn Mr. Christie’s veto of a 2012 law that would have allowed gay marriage. Mr. Christie has said he believes that marriage is between a man and a woman, and he has suggested that the issue should be put before voters in a referendum.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/19/nyreg ... .html?_r=0

So what do you think NS? A step in the right or wrong direction?

I think it is great that they are guaranteeing human rights. It's a pleasant surprise that it happened under Chris Chrisite (not a fan) even though he was against it.

I disapprove, this will cause a major increase in hurricanes in the near future.
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Postby Menassa » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:26 pm

Good stuff Rabosai.
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Postby Avenio » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:28 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:I disapprove, this will cause a major increase in hurricanes in the near future.


Yeah, but if 2012 is any indication, they'll all be aimed at GOP conventions, so there's nothing to worry about.

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:29 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:I disapprove, this will cause a major increase in hurricanes in the near future.

South America stopped having extremely rare South Atlantic tropical cyclones happening frequently after Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay legalized same-sex marriage in the last 3 years so this argument is very false. *nods*
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:30 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:I disapprove, this will cause a major increase in hurricanes in the near future.

South America stopped having extremely rare South Atlantic tropical cyclones happening frequently after Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay legalized same-sex marriage in the last 3 years so this argument is very false. *nods*

God gave up an anything south of the equator. *nods*
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:33 pm

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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:34 pm

Awesomeness! :lol:

Sibator wrote:Where is the obligatory FABULOUS poll?

And it's got to be with each letter representing a color of the rainbow, dammit!
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Postby Len Hyet » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:35 pm

Poll: 85% of NSG for
15$ against

Error Rate: 5%

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:39 pm

Len Hyet wrote:Poll: 85% of NSG for
15$ against

Error Rate: 5%

^
Formula for all NSG Gay Marriage polls
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90% For

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0.001% Hippo, somehow
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Postby Divair » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:39 pm

14 states down. 36 to go.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:42 pm

Awesome.
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Postby Jamjai » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:43 pm

doesn't bother me its pretty pointless to prevent gay marriage
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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:47 pm

FABULOUS!
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Postby Threlizdun » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:51 pm

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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:11 pm

Ok, we have 5 people who voted against this. Could they please come forward so we can forcefully assimilate them into our sodomite hivemind?
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:12 pm

Liriena wrote:Ok, we have 5 people who voted against this. Could they please come forward so we can forcefully assimilate them into our sodomite hivemind?

I find this racist against the gommoran minorites.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:13 pm

Sibator wrote:Where is the obligatory FABULOUS poll?

This news isn't getting any less FABULOUS!
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Postby Orcoa » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:14 pm

May couples find love and peace forever in marriage

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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:17 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Liriena wrote:Ok, we have 5 people who voted against this. Could they please come forward so we can forcefully assimilate them into our sodomite hivemind?

I find this racist against the gommoran minorites.

Gommorah sounds like an STI. :P
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:18 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:I find this racist against the gommoran minorites.

Gommorah sounds like an STI. :P

Well according to the OT, it was.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:19 pm

Seitonjin wrote:
Liriena wrote:Gommorah sounds like an STI. :P

Well according to the OT, it was.

Sorry, lad. You got gomorrah.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:20 pm

Yes, because, that way, some people can be temporarily relieved of the misery of being in New Jersey.

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