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Your favorite military commanders thoughout history?

Postby Confederacy of Ottomark » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:00 pm

Hello everyone I am new here, and this is my first post as well as first thread! Yay! :lol:

I was just reading a book regarding military commanders throughout history and it brought a question to mind

Who are your favorite military commanders from throughoutt history? And a follow up, why are they your favorite?

Two of my favorites are Rommel and Napoleon!
I hope this thread will take off like the many others that I have seen. Thanks again! :)

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Postby Frazers » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:03 pm

Why them?

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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:07 pm

I dunno. Willem van Oranje?

Not sure if he was actually any good when it came to military strategy, but I'm not very well-read in that department anyway, so I'll just go with him.
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:07 pm

My favourite ones: Comrades Ernesto Che Guevara, Robert Mugabe, Muammar al-Qadhafi, Aisha al-Qadhafi, Fidel Castro, Iosif Stalin, Bashar Al-Assad (holds the rank of Field Marshal, kicks some Qutbist arse like no one ever has), Gamal Abdel Nasser, Josep Broz Tito, Sun Tzu, Ho Chi Minh, Genghis Khan (controversial, however nonetheless a successful commander on the battle field if you look at nothing else of course), Vo Nguyen Giap, Kim Il Sung, Mao Tse-Tung, Ruhollah Khomeini (led his nation to victory in the Iranian Resistance against the Imposed War), Seyyed Hassan Nasrallah.
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Postby Ponyfornia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:07 pm

William Sherman and Mehmet II, he's the reason the Balkans is such a lovely place.
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Postby Bering » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:07 pm

Ponyfornia wrote:William Sherman and Mehmet II

Same

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Postby Ragnarum » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:08 pm

This man and this man

As well as Genghis Khan and someone else.
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Postby Prizyetsa » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:09 pm

I'd have to agree with your choice of Rommel however Napoleon, as successful as he initially was, was arrogant and treated his men like shit during the Russian campaign.

I choose Rommel because he was intelligent, quick, preferred to lead his men from the front and most importantly, he was a human in a sea of evil.

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Postby Frazers » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:09 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:I dunno. Willem van Oranje?

Not sure if he was actually any good when it came to military strategy, but I'm not very well-read in that department anyway, so I'll just go with him.


I wouldn't be who I am without him I suppose so big fan heh

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Postby Cetacea » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:10 pm

Genghis Khan - not sure why that would be controversial

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Postby The Imperial Prefectures of America » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:11 pm

My absolute favorite, Gaius Julius Caesar. But when I feel like answering the question as a joke, I say Custer, because while hunting alone, and away from his camp, he managed to shoot his own horse in the back of the head, and was promptly surrounded by angry natives.

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Postby Divair » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:11 pm

Ragnarum wrote:This man and this man

Ah, Slim. A good choice. Often forgotten despite his brilliance.

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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:11 pm

Frazers wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:I dunno. Willem van Oranje?

Not sure if he was actually any good when it came to military strategy, but I'm not very well-read in that department anyway, so I'll just go with him.


I wouldn't be who I am without him I suppose so big fan heh


Oh? How come?
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Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Prizyetsa » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:13 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:I dunno. Willem van Oranje?

Not sure if he was actually any good when it came to military strategy, but I'm not very well-read in that department anyway, so I'll just go with him.

Of course, how could I forget Willem van Oranje? Without him, I'd probably be speaking Spanish... ;)

As a tactician, he wasn't the best however some argue that this was because of the resources available to him at the time. Regardless, he was a pillar of morale for the Dutch armies, and so deserves a spot in my top three :D

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Postby Frazers » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:14 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
Frazers wrote:
I wouldn't be who I am without him I suppose so big fan heh


Oh? How come?


His victories helped assure the Protestant ascendency in Ireland.

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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:17 pm

Prizyetsa wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:I dunno. Willem van Oranje?

Not sure if he was actually any good when it came to military strategy, but I'm not very well-read in that department anyway, so I'll just go with him.

Of course, how could I forget Willem van Oranje? Without him, I'd probably be speaking Spanish... ;)

As a tactician, he wasn't the best however some argue that this was because of the resources available to him at the time. Regardless, he was a pillar of morale for the Dutch armies, and so deserves a spot in my top three :D


God I hate Spanish >.>

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Frazers wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Oh? How come?


His victories helped assure the Protestant ascendency in Ireland.


Indirectly, maybe. Are you sure you're talking about the same Willem as I am?
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:23 pm

Prizyetsa wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:I dunno. Willem van Oranje?

Not sure if he was actually any good when it came to military strategy, but I'm not very well-read in that department anyway, so I'll just go with him.

Of course, how could I forget Willem van Oranje? Without him, I'd probably be speaking Spanish... ;)

As a tactician, he wasn't the best however some argue that this was because of the resources available to him at the time. Regardless, he was a pillar of morale for the Dutch armies, and so deserves a spot in my top three :D


Yes, however like Genghis, a controversial choice.

After all Dutch armies in the colonial era participated in the madness of colonial repression that killed several tens of millions worldwide over the centuries.

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Postby Mkuki » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:26 pm

I'll give five in no particular order.

1. Gustav II Adolf
2. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
3. Marcus Aurelius
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Postby Ayreonia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:27 pm

There are too many. Heinz Guderian comes to mind first. He basically invented armored warfare as it is. Erwin Rommel, while a strategical fuckup, was a good tactician and a true gentleman. George S. Patton was capable of feats his peers (and enemies) thought impossible. Hjalmar Siilasvuo deserves a mention because he was awesome and Finnish.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:27 pm

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Prizyetsa wrote:Of course, how could I forget Willem van Oranje? Without him, I'd probably be speaking Spanish... ;)

As a tactician, he wasn't the best however some argue that this was because of the resources available to him at the time. Regardless, he was a pillar of morale for the Dutch armies, and so deserves a spot in my top three :D


Yes, however like Genghis, a controversial choice.

After all Dutch armies in the colonial era participated in the madness of colonial repression that killed several tens of millions worldwide over the centuries.


Willem van Oranje wasn't exactly involved in that, however, considering Dutch colonialism only really started happening decades after his death. So I don't see how he has anything to do with it.
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Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:30 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Yes, however like Genghis, a controversial choice.

After all Dutch armies in the colonial era participated in the madness of colonial repression that killed several tens of millions worldwide over the centuries.


Willem van Oranje wasn't exactly involved in that, however, considering Dutch colonialism only really started happening decades after his death. So I don't see how he has anything to do with it.


True.

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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:31 pm

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Willem van Oranje wasn't exactly involved in that, however, considering Dutch colonialism only really started happening decades after his death. So I don't see how he has anything to do with it.


True.


So then he isn't controversial at all, really.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:33 pm

I'd say Genghis Khan, some of his tactical advances are nothing short of spectacular - look up the events leading to the destruction of Samarkand. He really defined a good number of strategies.

However, it is this man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Carton_de_Wiart that takes the cake. He appears to be a juggernaut.
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Postby Prizyetsa » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:36 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
True.


So then he isn't controversial at all, really.

At the end of the day, it was just a minor detail anyways... 8)

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Postby Nazis in Space » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:45 pm

Eiteieite, son of Leiteikeipei, who led his tribe to victory over a neighboring tribe of fellow farmers, killed their men, enslaved their women, and stole all their food. How dare they copy his tribe's idea of planting seeds in the ground!

History's first ever military commander, sadly all but forgotten, but his name was as mighty and famed as any later general in Anatolia circa 10000 B.C..

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