Bill that requires child molesters be castrated.

[Salandriagado]

That is a slightly different axiom, not circular logic. If he said "people are fundamentally good because they only do wrong because they don't know any better because they are fundamentally good", that would be circular logic (A -> B ->A). That isn't even slightly what he said. What he said was (A. A -> B. B). That's a perfectly valid logical inference, and if you really want, I can prove that it's valid in a sound proof system.

If I'm not mistaken, that's the argument Bluth is, or rather, has made, concerning te whole "People are fundamentally good" argumet.

You are entirely mistaken, to the point that I'm honestly not sure you've actually been reading his posts.

[Vault 1]

Are you seriously advocating eugenics?

Accepting eugenics is the first step to accepting human genetic engineering, which is going to be vital for mankind's survival in an increasingly degrading environment.

[Blasveck]

If I'm not mistaken, that's the argument Bluth is, or rather, has made, concerning te whole "People are fundamentally good" argumet.

You are entirely mistaken, to the point that I'm honestly not sure you've actually been reading his posts.

I have been.

He's said before that
A: People are fudamentally good and
B: if people do wrong, it's because they don't know any better because
A: People who are fundamentally good would never do wrong, and if they do, it's because they don't know any better because

.....And so on and so on.

Unless I'm missing something, he's saying that A; therefore B, because of A.

He's made that exact claim before, and he's doing it again.
But enough with this threadjack. I guess I'm just not understanding this. Probably because I'm tired at the moment, but if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

[Salandriagado]

You are entirely mistaken, to the point that I'm honestly not sure you've actually been reading his posts.

I have been.

He's said before that
A: People are fudamentally good and
B: if people do wrong, it's because they don't know any better because
A: People who are fundamentally good would never do wrong, and if they do, it's because they don't know any better because

.....And so on and so on.

Unless I'm missing something, he's saying that A; therefore B, because of A.

He's made that exact claim before, and he's doing it again.
But enough with this threadjack. I guess I'm just not understanding this. Probably because I'm tired at the moment, but if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Your first and third statements are not in any way the same thing. It's A: People are fundamentally good. B: Therefore, if people do wrong, it's because they don't know any better. That's it. There's no circular logic here, merely a philosophical position taken as axiomatic.

[Vazeckta]

This is something one might hear people say every now and then, but getting castrated definitely falls under cruel and/or unusual punishment, so I'm gonna have to say we can't do that. Who knows, maybe rehab and a half decent mental health system could aid the problem too.

[Terrordome]

I would be for this if it was amended so that rep. Steve hurst is forced to eat the balls raw with no sauce or seasoning. After all we can't put a price on our children's safety can we Steve?