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Postby Benuty » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:51 pm

Des-Bal wrote:Modern politics is a series of assholes and liars trying to be more angry than each other until someone lets a racist epithet slip and they all scatter like roaches.

Hasn't it always been that way sans the racial epithet?
It seems as if the subtlety behind such things in politics has numbed down alot in the past few decades.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:53 pm

Des-Bal wrote:Modern politics is a series of assholes and liars trying to be more angry than each other until someone lets a racist epithet slip and they all scatter like roaches.

Like the roaches they are, you mean?
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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:05 pm

I don't think bodily mutilation without consent is going to fly.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:10 pm

1 - We are not into an agrarian society where we need this.

2 - Hamurabi's code is bad and you should feel bad.

3 - Castration? While I admit the wishes to have their balls cut off is there for child molesters, what if they are not child molesters (you know, like a 17 year old having sex with his 17 year old gf, then when he/she turns 18 they have sex again and the parents, when and if these two people break up, will go ahead and sue him/her for it?)? We are making a broad law for a ruling that has yet to be addressed under many circumstances if we are to avoid 18 year olds getting castrated just because they broke up with their relatively younger couples.
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Postby Wamitoria » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:10 pm

Does this affect all sex offenders or only specifically those who are convicted of child molestation?
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Postby Batuni » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:13 pm

And what about women who molest children?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:16 pm

Batuni wrote:And what about women who molest children?


Remove the clitoris! And the labia if needed.

Because we need to be bloody in passing judgement and totally disregard our constitution.

This honestly sounds like a Cromwell-era punishment.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:17 pm

It isn't cruel or unusual. It is punishment not even proportionate to the crime. I hope the bill passes.
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Postby Wamitoria » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:18 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Batuni wrote:And what about women who molest children?


Remove the clitoris! And the labia if needed.

Because we need to be bloody in passing judgement and totally disregard our constitution.

This honestly sounds like a Cromwell-era punishment.

Because it is a Cromwell-era punishment.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:18 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:It isn't cruel or unusual. It is punishment not even proportionate to the crime. I hope the bill passes.


:eyebrow:

How is it not proportionate to the crime to create eunuchs?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:19 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:It isn't cruel or unusual. It is punishment not even proportionate to the crime. I hope the bill passes.


You're right. It is in no way proportionate.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:21 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:It isn't cruel or unusual. It is punishment not even proportionate to the crime. I hope the bill passes.


:eyebrow:

How is it not proportionate to the crime to create eunuchs?

They could give that child mental scars that will never go away. They deserve mental torment longer than the length of time the child they molested will have it. Castrating them will have to do.
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:21 pm

Well...this is different.

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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:22 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:It isn't cruel or unusual. It is punishment not even proportionate to the crime. I hope the bill passes.


You're right. It is in no way proportionate.

Proportionate would be to have them fucked until they bleed, no?

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:23 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
:eyebrow:

How is it not proportionate to the crime to create eunuchs?

They could give that child mental scars that will never go away. They deserve mental torment longer than the length of time the child they molested will have it. Castrating them will have to do.


Uhm... you do understand that child molestors can be convicted even when there isn't so much as "oh but the guy's/girl's 18 and the girl's/guy's 17?! And they were FUCKING?! Yea, totes a child molestor" even when they have had sex since the person in question had 17.

This is a bad idea, from all fronts.
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Postby Blasveck » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:24 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
:eyebrow:

How is it not proportionate to the crime to create eunuchs?

They could give that child mental scars that will never go away. They deserve mental torment longer than the length of time the child they molested will have it. Castrating them will have to do.


The justice system isn't meant for revenge.

It literally exacerbates crime.
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:25 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:They could give that child mental scars that will never go away. They deserve mental torment longer than the length of time the child they molested will have it. Castrating them will have to do.


The justice system isn't meant for revenge.

It literally exacerbates crime.

No, it is meant for justice. That is why it is called a justice system.

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Postby Gauthier » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:27 pm

Republican lawmakers tend to have a hardon for punishment versus rehabilitation.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Blasveck » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:27 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
The justice system isn't meant for revenge.

It literally exacerbates crime.

No, it is meant for justice. That is why it is called a justice system.


And what Prussia is advocating is revenge.

Not justice.

Which makes things worse.

Just look at the recidivism rate of countries with rehabilitation and actual justice sytems.
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:29 pm

Gauthier wrote:Republican lawmakers tend to have a hardon for punishment versus rehabilitation.

Punishment is justice. Rehabilitation is not.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:29 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:No, it is meant for justice. That is why it is called a justice system.


And what Prussia is advocating is revenge.

Not justice.

Which makes things worse.

Just look at the recidivism rate of countries with rehabilitation and actual justice sytems.

All right.

Kill them right off the bat. Costs the price of one rope (which can probably be reused), and no chance of being a repeat offender.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:31 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Republican lawmakers tend to have a hardon for punishment versus rehabilitation.

Punishment is justice. Rehabilitation is not.


Because fun things like wrongful executions and recidivism never happens in red states unlike those dirty Eurosocialist countries.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:31 pm

Enough with this reactionary emotional knee jerking already it is over-whored too much.
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Postby Olthar » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:32 pm

This seems fine.

Wait...no. That's not the word I'm looking for. What was it? Oh, it's right on the tip of my tongue. Uh...abominable! That's it!
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:34 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
And what Prussia is advocating is revenge.

Not justice.

Which makes things worse.

Just look at the recidivism rate of countries with rehabilitation and actual justice sytems.

All right.

Kill them right off the bat. Costs the price of one rope (which can probably be reused), and no chance of being a repeat offender.


And faced with a nothing to lose perspective, every single child molestor automatically downgrades to child murderers. Congratulations on scaring them straight.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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