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Postby Zonolia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:51 am

Huh...pretty mild considering I support the death penalty for child molesters...but well then...
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:05 am

What happens when the court fails and you castrate someone who turns out to be innocent 10 years down the line?
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Postby Risottia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:06 am

Purpelia wrote:What happens when the court fails and you castrate someone who turns out to be innocent 10 years down the line?

For fairness, all the jurors, the prosecutors, and the judges get castrated.
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:13 am

Risottia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:What happens when the court fails and you castrate someone who turns out to be innocent 10 years down the line?

For fairness, all the jurors, the prosecutors, and the judges get castrated.

But by that time they may have gotten children already. And the poor guy can't any more. So it might be more fair to kill their children instead.
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Postby Xsyne » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:16 am

I'd like to point out that castration does not involve removal of the penis. Male child molesters wouldn't even need to get creative. They've still got all the hardware.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:33 am

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Postby Risottia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:34 am

Purpelia wrote:
Risottia wrote:For fairness, all the jurors, the prosecutors, and the judges get castrated.

But by that time they may have gotten children already. And the poor guy can't any more. So it might be more fair to kill their children instead.

Call it "post-partum abortion" and we'll have a deal.
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:03 am

No, just no. Longer prison sentences, yes (or max-security and increased monitoring), but castration is not a good idea.
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Postby Telsia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:22 am

Well this is fucked up, next they'll say its moral, ethical and just to rape rapist as punishment!
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:35 am

Has anyone brought up Skinner v. Oklahoma case yet?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:37 am

Galloism wrote:Has anyone brought up Skinner v. Oklahoma case yet?

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Postby Distruzio » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:41 am

Pacifornia wrote:An eye for an eye makes the world blind. Just stick with Megan's Law and monitor where the molesters go, no need for violent revenge!


No it doesnt. Folks have two eyes. Last one standing has an eye left.

The law isnt meant for revenge, true enough, but it is meant to reaffirm the public trust. Why is this bill offensive if it can help protect both potential victims and victimizers?
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:42 am

Distruzio wrote:
Pacifornia wrote:An eye for an eye makes the world blind. Just stick with Megan's Law and monitor where the molesters go, no need for violent revenge!


No it doesnt. Folks have two eyes. Last one standing has an eye left.

The law isnt meant for revenge, true enough, but it is meant to reaffirm the public trust. Why is this bill offensive if it can help protect both potential victims and victimizers?

Explain to me how castration prevents rape without making Bottle collapse in fits of hysterical laughter. For men or women.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:43 am

Ifreann wrote:
Galloism wrote:Has anyone brought up Skinner v. Oklahoma case yet?

Activist judges!

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Postby Distruzio » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:44 am

Xsyne wrote:I'd like to point out that castration does not involve removal of the penis. Male child molesters wouldn't even need to get creative. They've still got all the hardware.


But without the software to make use of it the hardware loses its effectiveness. The act may not prevent ALL repeated offenses but it does reduce the likelihood of them.
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Postby Distruzio » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:45 am

Galloism wrote:
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No it doesnt. Folks have two eyes. Last one standing has an eye left.

The law isnt meant for revenge, true enough, but it is meant to reaffirm the public trust. Why is this bill offensive if it can help protect both potential victims and victimizers?

Explain to me how castration prevents rape without making Bottle collapse in fits of hysterical laughter. For men or women.


I dont recall asserting that it does prevent rape.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:47 am

Distruzio wrote:
Xsyne wrote:I'd like to point out that castration does not involve removal of the penis. Male child molesters wouldn't even need to get creative. They've still got all the hardware.


But without the software to make use of it the hardware loses its effectiveness. The act may not prevent ALL repeated offenses but it does reduce the likelihood of them.

Are you aware the testicles have no bearing how the sexual operation of the penis, and the ovaries have no bearing on the sexual operation of the vagina, aside from the production of sperm/eggs respectively?
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Postby Risottia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:47 am

Galloism wrote:Has anyone brought up Skinner v. Oklahoma case yet?

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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:48 am

Distruzio wrote:
Galloism wrote:Explain to me how castration prevents rape without making Bottle collapse in fits of hysterical laughter. For men or women.


I dont recall asserting that it does prevent rape.

Well, then how it prevents child molestation then.

(Including rape or statutory rape of children, if you would)
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Postby Distruzio » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:49 am

Galloism wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
But without the software to make use of it the hardware loses its effectiveness. The act may not prevent ALL repeated offenses but it does reduce the likelihood of them.

Are you aware the testicles have no bearing how the sexual operation of the penis, and the ovaries have no bearing on the sexual operation of the vagina, aside from the production of sperm/eggs respectively?


Yes. Did my statement suggest otherwise?
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Postby Distruzio » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:50 am

Galloism wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
I dont recall asserting that it does prevent rape.

Well, then how it prevents child molestation then.

(Including rape or statutory rape of children, if you would)


Once more, i dont recall asserting that it prevents anything.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:51 am

Distruzio wrote:
Galloism wrote:Are you aware the testicles have no bearing how the sexual operation of the penis, and the ovaries have no bearing on the sexual operation of the vagina, aside from the production of sperm/eggs respectively?


Yes. Did my statement suggest otherwise?

Then explain, since the software (the brain) and hardware (let you figure that out) still work perfectly, how the computer will no longer work.

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Xsyne wrote:I'd like to point out that castration does not involve removal of the penis. Male child molesters wouldn't even need to get creative. They've still got all the hardware.


But without the software to make use of it the hardware loses its effectiveness. The act may not prevent ALL repeated offenses but it does reduce the likelihood of them.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:53 am

Distruzio wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, then how it prevents child molestation then.

(Including rape or statutory rape of children, if you would)


Once more, i dont recall asserting that it prevents anything.

Claiming it will "reduce" it is a form of assertion of some level of preventive quality to the measure.
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Postby Distruzio » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:05 am

Galloism wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Once more, i dont recall asserting that it prevents anything.

Claiming it will "reduce" it is a form of assertion of some level of preventive quality to the measure.


At what point was the post you quoted unclear as to my meaning? I asked how this law does not reaffirm the public trust as an implied corollary to why it is offensive.
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