Bill that requires child molesters be castrated.

[Genivaria]

GOP Rep. introduces bill that would require castration for child molesters

One of the most disturbing acts one can do is sexually molest a child. In one state, a drastic punishment is being presented that is seen as controversial by many.

No matter what side of the political aisle you stand on, there is no debating the actions of an adult taking advantage of an innocent child. When a person is tried and convicted, the punishment should fit the crime. In Alabama, Republican state Rep. Steve Hurst has re-introduced a bill that would require child sexual molesters over the age of 21 to be surgically castrated before they are released from prison.

Hurst's bill would also require that the felon be required and obligated for 100 percent of the medical cost. The bill is being submitted for the 2014 legislative session after failing to make it out of the committee in 2013. According to CNN, "at least" nine states have laws involving chemical castration for child sex offenders.

"At least nine U.S. states, including California, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Louisiana, Montana, Oregon, Texas and Wisconsin have versions of chemical castration in their laws. It's unclear how frequently chemical castration is used in the United States."
Amnesty International was quick to criticize chemical castration and described it as "inhuman treatment," but others aren't so quick to take a stand against it. The bill will be brought up for considering, but it is not known how well it will fair moving forward.

http://www.examiner.com/article/gop-rep ... -molesters

Ok first off I wanna make clear that there is a difference between saying something vicious in anger when you're emotional (guilty) and actually trying to make something vicious into law.
That said I personally am very uncomfortable with this idea and see it as monstrous in nature, and there's the fact that would likely count as 'cruel and unusual punishment'.
Thoughts?

[Blasveck]

How about no.

It makes you a dick for doing shit like that.

The justice system isn't meant for revenge.

[Genivaria]

How about no.

It makes you a dick for doing shit like that.

The justice system isn't meant for revenge.

I agree completely. Sadly many people think otherwise.

[Trotskylvania]

I am fairly certain this is completely unenforceable. It would run afoul of cruel and unusual punishment in the Eighth Amendment, and it wouldn't prevent future offense at all.

[Mkuki]

I'm with Amnesty International. This type of shit shouldn't be legal.

[Libertarian California]

This is creepy.

[Fartsniffage]

Viscerally satisfying, morally repugnant.

[The Orson Empire]

This violates the U.S. Constitution.

[Pacifornia]

An eye for an eye makes the world blind. Just stick with Megan's Law and monitor where the molesters go, no need for violent revenge!

[Liriena]

Cruel and unusual punishment, I say.

Look, I hate child molestation as much as any half-decent human being, but castration is not a solution.

[Greed and Death]

Physcial castration is a bit much. Now chemical castration provided there is informed consent and the benefit the inmate receives is limited. ( I would say no more than 2 years early release).

[Christian Democrats]

In Alabama, Republican state Rep. Steve Hurst has re-introduced a bill that would require child sexual molesters over the age of 21 to be surgically castrated before they are released from prison.

I would hope that a court would strike this down as a cruel and unusual punishment violative of the Eighth Amendment.

However, current Supreme Court precedent permits compulsory sterilization, which is similar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell

[Ammar]

This violates the U.S. Constitution.

*nods in approval*

I believe this violates Amendment...6?

[America Libertaria]

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. There is nothing cruel and unusual about it.

[Genivaria]

This violates the U.S. Constitution.

*nods in approval*

I believe this violates Amendment...6?

8th.

[Genivaria]

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. There is nothing cruel and unusual about it.

There is nothing cruel and usual about CASTRATING someone?

[Greed and Death]

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. There is nothing cruel and unusual about it.

There is nothing cruel and usual about CASTRATING someone?

As Scalia and Thomas would say the tradition and history of castration as a punishment for a crime is well established.
Going all the way back to the Ming dynasty and roman empires. The punishments would clearly not be unusual.

Yeah sorry even I can not argue this with a straight face.

[Fartsniffage]

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. There is nothing cruel and unusual about it.

Child molesters castrate their victims?

[Geilinor]

I'm pretty sure that would be "cruel and unusual". Life in prison is still the best punishment that can be given under the law.

[Liriena]

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. There is nothing cruel and unusual about it.

Except the American legal system is not based on the "an eye for an eye" model, and forcible castration that must be paid for by the convict is blatant cruel and unusual punishment.

[Geilinor]

In Alabama, Republican state Rep. Steve Hurst has re-introduced a bill that would require child sexual molesters over the age of 21 to be surgically castrated before they are released from prison.

However, current Supreme Court precedent permits compulsory sterilization, which is similar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell

Wait, eugenics would still be legal? Oh dear.

[Phocidaea]

It makes you a dick for doing shit like that.

I thought this law would remove you a dick for doing shit like that?

[AiliailiA]

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

Quoting the bible are we? Let's see the context ...

20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely[e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

26 “An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. 27 And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth.

Nothing cruel or unusual about any of that is there?

[Benuty]

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

Quoting the bible are we? Let's see the context ...

20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely[e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

26 “An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. 27 And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth.

Nothing cruel or unusual about any of that is there?

Oh look its "Quote the shittier version of the scripture" time already.

[Ponyfornia]

Ain't "unconstitutional" a word Republicans love to use? I'm pretty sure this word applies to that bill.