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Scholencia
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Postby Scholencia » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:57 pm

Trolldonia wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Because scientists consider that gender=sex; there would not be an illness called GID in other case.


An appeal to authority does not an argument make.

Oh yeah, some lgbt nutters and "their feelings" have more credibility than scientists.

It would be funny to see when a lgtb freak comes to a science meeting and says "his feelings know better"

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Postby Rocopurr » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:58 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Trolldonia wrote:
An appeal to authority does not an argument make.

Oh yeah, some lgbt nutters and "their feelings" have more credibility than scientists.

It would be funny to see when a lgtb freak comes to a science meeting and says "his feelings know better"

Are you implying that we are freaks?
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:58 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Trolldonia wrote:
An appeal to authority does not an argument make.

Oh yeah, some lgbt nutters and "their feelings" have more credibility than scientists.

It would be funny to see when a lgtb freak comes to a science meeting and says "his feelings know better"

Well thank you. I am a freak.

But you're just daft with that remark.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:00 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:I feel you. I used to be afraid of becoming "an ugly old dude." I'm still young (under 30) but I'm fine with myself.

I don't find all "old" dudes ugly, much by the contrary (they can be quite hot), but... little me... looking manly like my daddy... This always seemed so bizarre UGH
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Scholencia
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Postby Scholencia » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:01 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Oh yeah, some lgbt nutters and "their feelings" have more credibility than scientists.

It would be funny to see when a lgtb freak comes to a science meeting and says "his feelings know better"

Are you implying that we are freaks?

Only LGBT activists but not LGBT people. Although transexuals have this disorder but it is not good to make fun of ill people.

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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:03 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Liriena wrote:Funny how your own source disagrees with your stance on this issue.

It is said that it is debated wheter is a mental illness, furtermore in the footnotes it is said that the question comes from the lgbt lobby but and not from science. Also, it is classified as a illness as you see the numbers.


Whether it is a mental illness is still debated in some circles, although official documents no refer to GID as "gender dysphoria" to avoid the misguided stigma associated with the term "disorder". Furthermore, as your own source says, the treatment for gender dysphoria involves helping transgender people come to terms with their gender identity and, more often than not, adapt their physical appearance and lifestyle to that of said gender identity.

Also, please work on your grammar. It's kinda difficult to tell exactly what your point is in much of your posts.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:04 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Trolldonia wrote:
An appeal to authority does not an argument make.

Oh yeah, some lgbt nutters and "their feelings" have more credibility than scientists.

It would be funny to see when a lgtb freak comes to a science meeting and says "his feelings know better"

What a lovely piece of shit of a post.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


⚧Copy and paste this in your sig
if you passed biology and know
gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧

I disown most of my previous posts

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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:04 pm

Liriena wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Oh yeah, some lgbt nutters and "their feelings" have more credibility than scientists.

It would be funny to see when a lgtb freak comes to a science meeting and says "his feelings know better"

What a lovely piece of shit of a post.

I added more poo to it. Bonobo poo in fact.
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Postby Rocopurr » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:04 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Are you implying that we are freaks?

Only LGBT activists but not LGBT people. Although transexuals have this disorder but it is not good to make fun of ill people.

How are they freaks at all? There is nothin weird about being an activist.

Again, I'm pretty sure being transsexual isn't considered a disorder anymore.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:06 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Only LGBT activists but not LGBT people. Although transexuals have this disorder but it is not good to make fun of ill people.

How are they freaks at all? There is nothin weird about being an activist.

Again, I'm pretty sure being transsexual isn't considered a disorder anymore.

Being transgender itself is not considered a disorder, but gender dysphoria remains a psychiatric condition that requires treatment. Said treatment often involves therapy and medical procedures aimed at adapting the subject to his/her/their gender identity.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


⚧Copy and paste this in your sig
if you passed biology and know
gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧

I disown most of my previous posts

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Scholencia
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Postby Scholencia » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:08 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Scholencia wrote:It is said that it is debated wheter is a mental illness, furtermore in the footnotes it is said that the question comes from the lgbt lobby but and not from science. Also, it is classified as a illness as you see the numbers.


i hate to use the homosexuality,was an illness once too argument, but yeah, that's basically where i'm going. you need to seriously read that wikipage over and over again until you actually understand it.

It was an illness until the gay lobby made a pressure to change it, so what?

Besides, the case of David Reimer proves that gender=sex and that transgender people are just mental ill.

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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:12 pm

Scholencia: *** 3-day ban *** for all the trolling. I'd have thought by now folks would realize we don't take kindly to people lumping users into groups then blatantly insulting them. Trolling is bad, mkay? Think on that while you're on your break.

Lirenia and others - when you're feeling defensive, please don't stoop to similar levels. It was really starting to rev up to where I was going to have to start smacking for it. Just don't.

EDIT: We're going around in circles here, and there's details getting brought up that are crossing some boundaries. Sharing anecdotes is fine. Sharing all the intimate details as some are doing, not so much.

People are people. How you view them may not be how they view themselves. How we all reach conclusions about ourselves is likely to vary in a case by case scenario. Whatever the situation, lets at least try to treat one another with a modicum of respect when interacting here, on this site. Thanks.
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