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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:10 am

As someone who has a somewhat fluid gender identity - you just know. It's a complex set of relations between brain, conscious and unconscious gender presentation and societal norms on gender. I feel somehow different in an undescribable way depending on gender shifts - sometimes almost as if they are different modes of being, expressions of different facets of a tribe of one.

Gender and other identity concepts represent anchors for a relatively persistent sense of self - these are required in order for the "individual" to exist as a social creature.
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Postby Luveria » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:10 am

Verdum wrote:Well, lets see.
I have a dick.
I was not born a female.
I must be a male.


Your gender test is a failure. There's plenty of women with dicks. And there are men who weren't born with dicks, but were born with a vagina instead.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:11 am

Bezombia wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:That's kind of a horrible thing to say.


Releign/Verdum is a card carrying Nazi, in case you didn't know...


The card is basically just a cue note:

"Remember, hate everyone"
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:12 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Releign/Verdum is a card carrying Nazi, in case you didn't know...


The card is basically just a cue note:

"Remember, hate everyone"

"What Would Hitler Do?"
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Postby Verdum » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:12 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Releign/Verdum is a card carrying Nazi, in case you didn't know...


The card is basically just a cue note:

"Remember, hate everyone"

Pretty much.
Luveria wrote:
Verdum wrote:Well, lets see.
I have a dick.
I was not born a female.
I must be a male.


Your gender test is a failure. There's plenty of women with dicks. And there are men who weren't born with dicks, but were born with a vagina instead.

Well that's weird, but I was born a male thank you very much.

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Postby Immoren » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:15 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
The card is basically just a cue note:

"Remember, hate everyone"

"What Would Hitler Do?"


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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:31 am

Verdum wrote:Well that's weird, but I was born a male thank you very much.


Here at GodCo we very much value your feedback on your sex assignation. Your thanks has been forwarded to the appropriate member of staff.
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Postby Verdum » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:18 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Verdum wrote:Well that's weird, but I was born a male thank you very much.


Here at GodCo we very much value your feedback on your sex assignation. Your thanks has been forwarded to the appropriate member of staff.

I would also like to give the staff who designed me a 9/10 for only the occasional fuck up.
Overall I would like to say my mental state needed some twerking before I was ever put on the shelves.

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:38 am

Verdum wrote:Overall I would like to say my mental state needed some twerking before I was ever put on the shelves.


Don't you mean tweaking? :shock:
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Postby Luveria » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:04 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:
Verdum wrote:Overall I would like to say my mental state needed some twerking before I was ever put on the shelves.


Don't you mean tweaking? :shock:


No.

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Postby Verdum » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:05 am

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Verdum wrote:Overall I would like to say my mental state needed some twerking before I was ever put on the shelves.


Don't you mean tweaking? :shock:

I meant what I said.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:33 am

Creativalsia wrote:How does one know if they are transgender, gender queer or non-gendered? For that matter, what is gender?


You know, NSG really isn't for homework assignments, and there's a wealth of research both scientific and social in nature to answer your question.

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:50 am

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Creativalsia wrote:How does one know if they are transgender, gender queer or non-gendered? For that matter, what is gender?


You know, NSG really isn't for homework assignments, and there's a wealth of research both scientific and social in nature to answer your question.


Other than being a one-line OP, what makes this one more homeworky than other gender/Trans threads?
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Postby Shaggai » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:02 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Shaggai wrote:From what I've heard, you check if you think you have the right genitals. If they don't match what you think you should have, you're probably trans*.


This seems to be denying the existing of agendered individuals.
It's one of my chief concerns.
Many people identifying as cisgendered may, in fact, be agendered.
They simply don't notice and/or care about it.

An Agendered person isn't likely to care either way. They won't see a "right" set of genitals, just "My genitals." and would continue to see that even if they suddenly switched.

That's why I said trans*. I was answering the OP's question "How does one know if they are transgender?" I could address the other types of gender, if you like.
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:59 am

Noireaux wrote:Precisely, every deviation is a deviation by definition, therefore an illness. Whomever feels uncomfortable with logic is a psychopath. And whomever fabricates or twists studies for liberal causes, or as we like to call it over here "radical tolerance", should go to jail for crimes against rationality.

Deviation is illness?

So I guess this abnormally large penis of mine makes me sick? Who knew?
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Postby Warped Aggression » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:40 am

From my knowledge at birth a person's gender is usually identified (if they are transgender) by what internal sex organs they have requardless of if they have a penis or vulva.
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Postby Freelanderness » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:38 am

Noireaux wrote:Precisely, every deviation is a deviation by definition, therefore an illness. Whomever feels uncomfortable with logic is a psychopath. And whomever fabricates or twists studies for liberal causes, or as we like to call it over here "radical tolerance", should go to jail for crimes against rationality.

Every deviation is an illness.

I'll inform white people immediately. Their melanin levels deviated, and therefore is an illness. I'm thinking a mass burning of the mutants, how about you?
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Postby Immoren » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:39 am

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Noireaux wrote:Precisely, every deviation is a deviation by definition, therefore an illness. Whomever feels uncomfortable with logic is a psychopath. And whomever fabricates or twists studies for liberal causes, or as we like to call it over here "radical tolerance", should go to jail for crimes against rationality.

Deviation is illness?

So I guess this abnormally large penis of mine makes me sick? Who knew?


now to the penis reduction surjery ASAP.
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Postby Bezombia » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:40 am

Freelanderness wrote:
Noireaux wrote:Precisely, every deviation is a deviation by definition, therefore an illness. Whomever feels uncomfortable with logic is a psychopath. And whomever fabricates or twists studies for liberal causes, or as we like to call it over here "radical tolerance", should go to jail for crimes against rationality.

Every deviation is an illness.

I'll inform white people immediately. Their melanin levels deviated, and therefore is an illness. I'm thinking a mass burning of the mutants, how about you?


And males.
In development their X chromosomes deviated into Y chromosomes. Therefore being male is an illness.

So after we burn all the whites and males, what next?
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:40 am

Freelanderness wrote:
Noireaux wrote:Precisely, every deviation is a deviation by definition, therefore an illness. Whomever feels uncomfortable with logic is a psychopath. And whomever fabricates or twists studies for liberal causes, or as we like to call it over here "radical tolerance", should go to jail for crimes against rationality.

Every deviation is an illness.

I'll inform white people immediately. Their melanin levels deviated, and therefore is an illness. I'm thinking a mass burning of the mutants, how about you?


Fuck off, Jesus!
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Postby Immoren » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:41 am

Bezombia wrote:
Freelanderness wrote:Every deviation is an illness.

I'll inform white people immediately. Their melanin levels deviated, and therefore is an illness. I'm thinking a mass burning of the mutants, how about you?


And males.
In development their X chromosomes deviated into Y chromosomes. Therefore being male is an illness.

So after we burn all the whites and males, what next?



Freelanderness wrote:
Noireaux wrote:Precisely, every deviation is a deviation by definition, therefore an illness. Whomever feels uncomfortable with logic is a psychopath. And whomever fabricates or twists studies for liberal causes, or as we like to call it over here "radical tolerance", should go to jail for crimes against rationality.

Every deviation is an illness.

I'll inform white people immediately. Their melanin levels deviated, and therefore is an illness. I'm thinking a mass burning of the mutants, how about you?


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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:57 am

Shaggai wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
This seems to be denying the existing of agendered individuals.
It's one of my chief concerns.
Many people identifying as cisgendered may, in fact, be agendered.
They simply don't notice and/or care about it.

An Agendered person isn't likely to care either way. They won't see a "right" set of genitals, just "My genitals." and would continue to see that even if they suddenly switched.

That's why I said trans*. I was answering the OP's question "How does one know if they are transgender?" I could address the other types of gender, if you like.


But "If they don't match what you think you should have" implies you think you should have one in particular.
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Postby The American Natives » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:00 pm

Creativalsia wrote:How does one know if they are transgender, gender queer or non-gendered? For that matter, what is gender?

I asked God.

God is a guy near my local grocery store that cleans car windows and gives advice. I tipped him $10 and he said, "You da man." So I learned I was most likely male.

Does this help?

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Postby Seitonjin » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:01 pm

So I am guessing gender identification all comes down to whatever one is comfortable with?
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Postby Zottistan » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:04 pm

I am a biological male, and my gender is (mostly) male. There's a lot of give and take, and to be frank, I honestly don't care about my gender or identify as any gender in particular. But I express as male, so that's what I say is my gender.
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