How do you know what gender you identify as?(if any)

[Ostroeuropa]

How does one know if they are transgender, gender queer or non-gendered? For that matter, what is gender?

I've decided I must be non-gendered because I don't identify as any particular gender. (In addition to becomming mildly annoyed whenever anyone ascribes a gender to me whatsoever, but that's only arisen the more i've thought about gender and gender identity.)
In fact you've touched upon why I think everyone is probably non-gendered.

What does being male or female even feel like?
How would you know any different?

From the "Outside" of gender it seems to be a whole lot of nonsense and granfalloonery.
The notion of identifying as male or female, when there are no agreed upon qualifications beyond a vague "clap your hands if you believe", makes it a granfalloon.

"I'm a male!"
"What makes you male?"
"I say I am."
"And if you said you were female?"
"I'd be that instead."
^
Granfalloonery in a nutshell.


Pangendered individuals (Ones who traverse particular identities at any one time, being male one day and female the next) may be able to provide some insight, but i've yet to stumble across one.

If there are any pangendered individuals here, could you please try and elaborate as to the differences in how it feels to be male, and how it feels to be female.

If, as I suspect, it's a granfalloon, the answer is going to be simply identifying as part of group A or group B, without any actual change in characteristic or feeling. Just that suddenly you feel like part of one group and not the other.

If however there is something broader, you're incredibly likely (in my experience) to run face first into being considered sexist.

"What's it like to be a male?"
"You feel strong."
BZZZZZ. wrong. etc

EDIT:
I have stuck to the gender binary of male female for the most part in this post for shorthand purposes.

DOUBLEEDIT:
I feel the need to point out that, regardless of what gender truly is, it certainly isn't what the "It's your junk that decides it!" people think.

[Luveria]

I know because my reproductive organs are of a certain type, and I wish to keep them that way.

You seem to have a belief that sexual organs determine your gender, then go further on to imply everyone female with a penis could only want to get it switched to a vagina. Am I not too far off from what your post meant?

[Luveria]

I feel the need to point out that, regardless of what gender truly is, it certainly isn't what the "It's your junk that decides it!" people think.

I assume those annoy you to no end too.

[Valendia]

Precisely, every deviation is a deviation by definition, therefore an illness. Whomever feels uncomfortable with logic is a psychopath. And whomever fabricates or twists studies for liberal causes, or as we like to call it over here "radical tolerance", should go to jail for crimes against rationality.

Deviation does not equate to an illness: deviation is a statistical term, illness is not really a scientific term at all.

[Ostroeuropa]

I feel the need to point out that, regardless of what gender truly is, it certainly isn't what the "It's your junk that decides it!" people think.

I assume those annoy you to no end too.

To some extent I think they are probably just unaware of what's been done to them. I just get sad.

[Valendia]

Stop the liberal bullshit. Your sex is whatever genitals you were born with. Denying that is no more than escapism. As for your sexuality, normally it relates to your genitals. Everything else is an illness. Seriously, let's start calling things the way they actually are, without all them fantasies that make life more convenient for a selected few.

That aside. Here's a fun vid I found.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QWIaejCp88

Such a pity that truth has a liberal bias.

Sex is determined by genitals, sure. But neither gender (which is not related to sex) or sexuality relate to what genitals you have: the fact gender has varied historically demonstrates this. And again, illness is not a scientific definition - and no mainstream medical organization regards non-heterosexuality as a disease.

[Luveria]

Because you feel like what you identify as? So like if you feel like you should have a dick and you have a did your good, if you feel like you should have a dick and look down and you see some vagina then you might want to get that fix up a bit.

Not bad, but it's not always the most ideal advice. Not everyone transgender has a conflict with the genitalia they were born with, and those ones will often have conflict with the rest of their body. That only further shows that genitalia and gender are separate things.

[Bottle]

I know I'm queer because my culture spends remarkable amounts of time and energy enforcing all the rules about the only two genders it is willing to recognize, and therefore it is very clear to me that neither of those gender roles is remotely appropriate for me.

[Bottle]

Precisely, every deviation is a deviation by definition, therefore an illness. Whomever feels uncomfortable with logic is a psychopath. And whomever fabricates or twists studies for liberal causes, or as we like to call it over here "radical tolerance", should go to jail for crimes against rationality.

Deviation does not equate to an illness: deviation is a statistical term, illness is not really a scientific term at all.

Indeed. An IQ of 180 is a significant deviation, and is not a disease. Being 6'6" is a deviation, also not a disease. Having perfect pitch, being able to digest lactose as an adult, having an 'outie' belly button, being left-handed, being able to both produce and smell that weird odor when you pee after eating asparagus...all deviations, all non-diseases.

Whether or not something is a disorder or disease largely depends on whether it impairs the individual's ability to perform what are defined as critical or essential functions. The ability to reflexively experience arousal at the thought of fucking a person of the opposite sex just isn't that important. Sorry, straight people.

[Ostroeuropa]

I know I'm queer because my culture spends remarkable amounts of time and energy enforcing all the rules about the only two genders it is willing to recognize, and therefore it is very clear to me that neither of those gender roles is remotely appropriate for me.

You seem to be implying that you cant identify as a man if you aren't completely masculine and visa versa.
How do you know you are queer merely because you aren't masculine/feminine?

Is a masculine female not a real female?
Is she in fact, a male?

I could be misunderstanding you, but that seems to be what you're saying here.

[Magnifico Tropico]

You just know.

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[Need a Name]

Does this really need to be discussed? Isn't it obvious what gender someone is?

[Bezombia]

From what I've heard, you check if you think you have the right genitals. If they don't match what you think you should have, you're probably trans*.

This.

I consider myself to identify as male because I have male genitalia and do not consider them incongruous with my mental conception of myself.

^^

From what I've heard, you check if you think you have the right genitals. If they don't match what you think you should have, you're probably trans*.

Right... genitals?

I didn't know those two words could go together. I mean genitals are the weirdest parts of the human body.

Wrong. The weirdest part of the human body is the calf.

[Ostroeuropa]

From what I've heard, you check if you think you have the right genitals. If they don't match what you think you should have, you're probably trans*.

This seems to be denying the existing of agendered individuals.
It's one of my chief concerns.
Many people identifying as cisgendered may, in fact, be agendered.
They simply don't notice and/or care about it.

An Agendered person isn't likely to care either way. They won't see a "right" set of genitals, just "My genitals." and would continue to see that even if they suddenly switched.

[Verdum]

Well, lets see.
I have a dick.
I was not born a female.
I must be a male.

[Bezombia]

Well, lets see.
I have a dick.
I was not born a female.
I must be a male.

'lies

[Verdum]

Well, lets see.
I have a dick.
I was not born a female.
I must be a male.

'lies

I know.
I have an innie and an outie. But that's not the point.

[Bezombia]

'lies

I know.
I have an innie and an outie. But that's not the point.

The point is that just because you were born male doesn't mean you're a male.

Also everyone knows you're a bigenderal

[Verdum]

I know.
I have an innie and an outie. But that's not the point.

The point is that just because you were born male doesn't mean you're a male.

Also everyone knows you're a bigenderal

That's probably the worst try you could make considering what I stand for finds them impure.

[Bezombia]

The point is that just because you were born male doesn't mean you're a male.

Also everyone knows you're a bigenderal

That's probably the worst try you could make considering what I stand for finds them impure.

I always forget when I'm talking to a nazi...

[Verdum]

That's probably the worst try you could make considering what I stand for finds them impure.

I always forget when I'm talking to a nazi...

It's okay, communist scum.
I still wove you.

[Bezombia]

I always forget when I'm talking to a nazi...

It's okay, communist scum.
I still wove you.

Thank you, and curse you!

[Frisivisia]

Being male is pretty cool.

[Frisivisia]

The point is that just because you were born male doesn't mean you're a male.

Also everyone knows you're a bigenderal

That's probably the worst try you could make considering what I stand for finds them impure.

That's kind of a horrible thing to say.

[Bezombia]

That's probably the worst try you could make considering what I stand for finds them impure.

That's kind of a horrible thing to say.

Releign/Verdum is a card carrying Nazi, in case you didn't know...